Hi Andres, (CC-ing the list) yes, some points: - the newest Pharo is AFAIK currently slow due to a bug introduced in one of the latest updates, Stephane tries to roll back (see http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009729.html) - I think it would be better to package VM+sources+changes+image in one file per platform for the main download page in the future or provide a "one click" experience. There is already a one click install for Seaside based on pharo (see new on www.seaside.st) - so could be a "one click pharo" - the windows installer is releatively new and therefore not yet on the download page (we will change that) There is now a newer, see: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009656.html Thanks for the feedback and tell us how the win32 Setup goes as soon as you are ready. Bye Torsten -------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:32:07 -0300 Von: andres <...> An: Torsten Bergmann <...> Betreff: Re: Fwd: First try of Pharo
Hi Torsten, thanks for the quick response! I think that, since I didn't have much time to write, I couldn't explain myself in the previous mail. So, here is my second try :). I really like the goals of Pharo and I wish that it becomes a professional St open source solution. I have historically worked with VW and could never get used to Squeak, yet I would love to work with something like pharo in the future. So, the aim of my mail was more to portrait the experience of someone saying "I've been hearing about Pharo, let's give it a try". So I went into the page, download section and got the pharo 09.06.01 image (with seaside and pier) and the corresponding vm for my platform. My feeling is that if I just wanted to get a taste of Pharo I would just say that I got an error message and that the environment was very slow and I think this is really a pity. Of course I'm not working too hard here and I know the project hasn't reach the 1.0 version, but in some cases (and this is more a personal appreciation) you got only one shot to attract people to your product and if this was the only shot for pharo I would have dismissed it. As you said, the first issue is extremely simple to solve and it is really frustrating that the first thing you see when trying a new piece of software is an error message. After you mentioned it in the mail, I realized that the sources where in the page, however the first time I saw the page I associated them with the /VM/ sources files, since it is an open source project and the title of the section is "Source file" (which I misread as "Source Files", hence the confusion). Regarding the one-click image I think it is a great idea and I think it would be great to include that in the download page of the project together with the other files. That would make the newcommers life easier. I'm on my linux box now, so as soon as I'm on the other machine and get some air I'll try the one-click image and tell you how it went.
HTH, Andrés
Torsten Bergmann escribió:
Andres wrote:
Starting the image would give the error attached in the screenshot. I tried moving the image to be in the same folder as the VM with no luck.
The *.source file is missing. Download the file from [1] and extract it where the VM is located.
You can also use the prepackaged Installer for Windows (containing anything you need, so pharo shows up in the start menu) - see [2] to download the setup.exe
Use this and tell us how it goes. Take care: your files with the *.image extension are still associated with the other VM that you installed.
Bye Torsten
BTW: If you are afraid of the traffic on the mailinglist just subscribe but set option to not get emails. Then you can browse the archive to read but still post questions. See [3]
[1] http://pharo-project.org/download [2] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22410/setup_pharo_0.0.0.3.exe [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009617.html
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