Stef, It sounds great, and I will indeed help where I can. I also have some code (see separate plea for help re gofer or any non-mc way to upload files) that might help. If you have past me in some areas, WONDERFUL. I'm on the mend from a bug last week, so I'm not 100% just yet (feeling much better though). More to come. Again, one thing that I would really like to see is the ability to deeply nest MVP triads. Layout has been the hardest part of getting that to work. You seem to be on good ground in terms of connecting models. MVP is tough on newbies (we never understood why that is), but very much worth the effort. My goal has been to create an MVP infrastructure with "just a little Seaside" feel to coding. Don't ask why, but I think that would be a nice fit with Pharo, and would allow us to defer what should be a long-term goal of making a view editor. With very good coding idioms, we can defer the editor w/o losing much (I think). Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:27 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Morphic View Application Framework On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
Dumb/lazy question with good intentions; what is spec? Too many code names :) I should be able to at least offer guidance on MVP; I've used it to great effect for years, and know the good and weak points.
I would love that :) Spec so far: Models based on valueHolder to reuse widgets configuration AND logic declarative specification of UI Next steps - Support more widgets: - combox - drop box - start to rewrite most of the UI with Spec - file list - changesorter - boostrap a UI Builder - first steps a spec presenter - then a click and place - add present like prototype idea propagation - Get more people helping/using/... Stef