2013/12/9 Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de>:
Esteban wrote:
I'd prefer ObjectConnect shutdown their website rather than having that. And, at certain degree the same applies to my beloved ObjectArts and its Dolphin masterpiece. What a nonsense - why should they shutdown their site if it is valuable to provide infos and new downloads to their customers?
I can't shutdown anything that's not mine. And that's perfectly fine. The point is that, IMHO, for the Smalltalk community it's counterproductive. It's my opinion, I don't want you to share it :)
If you want to shut down any page that is not up-to date you may have to shut down a big part of the internet.
Nothing sells less and causes more rejection than an outdated site. Particularly if it is about programming.
But Smalltalk is (at least to me) not interesting because it is a programming language - it is interesting because it is a dynamic object system that is easily changeable (including metamodel and language itself).
We agree on this. And that's why we're here.
And Pharo should not stop changing this object system until something new and better comes out of it...
If you want to reach broader audiences I'm 100% confident that you need not only a good product, but also good marketing assets. Though I never used it, I know the benefits of S/MT because I'm a long time smalltalker, but what about somebody who's evaluating other alternatives? Will a Company invest a million dollar (or a hundred at least) in a product built with a technology whose website is like ObjectConnect's one? I know this business runs on hype for a good part, but some things are just unavoidable. Regards, pd: I rather don't continue this here, it's hardly Pharo related. Pharo is doing a good job in this aspect, or at least much better than many predecessors.