Exciting times :) Doru On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, then we will integrate it together when you come to Lille in 2 weeks.
Good news.
Cheers,
2013/7/12 Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei@gmail.com> Hi Clément, Hi Clara,
What about integrating the new debugger by default now ? I mean the new debugger is now in Pharo 3.0 alpha but the old debugger is still triggered by default, for example when you do Cmd+Maj+d or when you set the setting 'Always open full debugger'. We (Marcus and I) would like to integrate it now by default in Pharo 3.0 alpha, so we have enough time to stabilize it (in case of problems) and we can then remove the old debugger and old inspectors from Pharo.
Now I want your point of view: - What do you think about integrating the spec debugger by default next week ?
In two weeks (22 July) I would visit you in Lille. That would be a good time to integrate.
- Is it currently stable enough ?
All the features that are present at the moment are quite stable.
- Should I wait a little more so you can add extra features ?
I've talked with Andrei and we've set a "milestone". By next week, we would like to have done issues 10956 10952 10954 10953 10955
If at least the first three issues are done, then the new debugger will have most of the necessary features. I'd also help with these and I hope we'll be done by the end of this month.
By next week I will have more time, since the semester will be finished.
Having Andrei's debugger by default requires that it has the full stack menu ready before the Pharo 3.0 release (next spring), because if not people will blame all the Pharo team. - Are you working on it ? That's what I plan to do next week :) I'm working on it, but not full time.
- Will it be ready before the next Pharo release ?
If you think you need to improve the debugger before we integrate it by default, for example with Clara's GSoC work, please tell me when it will be ready so we can add it into the Pharo 3.0 integration planning. Then I guess you can add a slice with your improvements in the Pharo bug tracker, and I will add an extra slice with smalltalk tools change so the new debugger will be triggered by default. It would be nice if we can integrate it before the end of september.
We'll surely be able to have all the missing features by the end of September. They do not require so much work.
In any case I will be in case with both Andrei and you (if you don't mind) to get this done...
Please do :)
Cheers, Andrei
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