On 22 May 2013 20:37, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
Sven
PS: I occasionally read the Squeak mailing and I see the work that you are doing and it is impressive. Your attitude, approach and drive remind me of the many Pharo developers. I would not dream of convincing you, but IMHO you would fit perfectly in the Pharo community, where you would find more interaction and feedback - maybe you would even reconsider using Smalltalk in business.
Thanks, Sven. I'm really not trying to pick fights over here. And perhaps today was a bad day to open my mouth at all, given my crankiness level.
I would _love_ to be able to use Smalltalk at work. Until it can work properly with git, and people can use their own text editors (vim, emacs, sublime), and quite a few other bits and pieces, it's just a non-starter.
that's simply not true, as you can see by all the success stories: http://files.pharo.org/SuccessStories/
Sorry, I didn't mean in general. I meant at my work.
I _like_ Pharo, and I _like_ how it has energy and momentum, and a much nicer UI than the old Pharo 1.0 UI. I'm honestly quite jealous of the resources the community wields, not just because of INRIA's and the Consortium's money, but because there are loads of people actually around, who are prepared to knuckle down and do the gruntwork needed. Squeak is now a very small community. I'm rather proud of what we get done with what little we have.
that is sad :(, I really think your contribution would be better off over here. I speak for many at our lab I think, that there is no motivation to prepare stuff for squeak: burnt once, fooled twice :/
I don't understand that, I really don't. Burnt by what? By whom? frank