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Re: [Pharo-project] Question about the Refactoring Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> If I understand correctly I can get a refactoring code model of the unloaded code, >> >> I do not think so. >> Even if we are working on Ring just for this scenario I doubt it worked by default. > > Sure it works by default. So you can have a model on code that is not in the image? I imagine that you can create RBClass RBMethod.... but this is not my point. How do you do that? which browser do you use? > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Delay bug

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks gary. Yes adrian got a problem on his server after two weeks of load. I do not know how we can improve them. Stef On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Well, we have been having problems with applications appearing to hang every 6 days or so (sound familiar?). > > I have identified a bug in the Delay implementation, rather obscure, but highlighted by our applications that make HEAVY use of processes/(tight, a few tens of milliseconds)delays/semaphores etc. > Naturally due to an edge case on millisecond clock rollover... > > Affects all Squeak/Pharo versions, as far as I can tell. (It is separate from the OSProcess issues I have posted about a few weeks ago). > > I've developed a potential fix, though I'll have to let you all know whether (hopefully) successful in a week or two... fingers crossed! > > I hope it is fixable, last hurdle for business applications, from our point of view. > > I'll post details when fix confirmed or failed then. > > Regards, Gary

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] A lil simplification of MorphTreeNodeMorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

so can you open an issue with all the stuff that the slaveMasters = me or marcus or igor or alain :) should integrate. Stef On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > okay.. i found one bug > > forgot to add cellPositioning: #leftCenter; for colum wrapper morph > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > <Tree2.3.cs>

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Links section for url shortcuts in the Pharo website

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Mariano They are right there, on the front page. I recently moved them up so they even show without scrolling. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:03 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Adrian. Lots of times I found myself trying to remember the Pharo url > shortcuts. I mean all of these: > > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable-core > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable-core > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable > > http://issues.pharo-project.org > http://ci.pharo-project.org > http://book.pharo-project.org > http://wiki.pharo-project.org > > Can we create a new section somewhere in the Pharo website and list all > those links ? > > Thanks a lot in advance, > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello chapter

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks you all. If you find problems or errors let us know. The chapter is now available on the inria gforge. Stef >> here is a new version of the metacello chapter. >> So we wrote it, rewrote it, rerewrote it. >> Now if this is of interest for you you can read it. >> >> But if you don't it means that I'm losing my time and I should stop writing and like >> that you can cry that there is no doc about Pharo. >> <Metacello.pdf> > > Well written, article/book class documentation, like the PBE & Seaside book, and chapters like the one above, are really important. > I know this takes a lot of time, so thanks for the effort! > > Sven

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about the Refactoring Browser

by Lukas Renggli

>> If I understand correctly I can get a refactoring code model of the unloaded code, > > I do not think so. > Even if we are working on Ring just for this scenario I doubt it worked by default. Sure it works by default. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] abouth nautilus and the removal of CodeHolder hierarchy

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

YES!YES!YES! It is cool to see your impact on them. Excellent it will really helps bringing pharo IDE to the next level. Stef On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 6 April 2011 13:16, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Because once people are dependent and drug addict then they will spend time fixing it :) >> >> No seriously this is mega hyper hyper important that we get >> - solid scalable listMorph and treeMorph >> So the best way is to stress it. >> >> The second answer is that nautilus is cool and needs tree :) >> > i second that. > trees and lists are basic widgets which could be used for different means. > So why we should limit ourselves and use some crappy lists to mimic > tree, instead of using trees, and improving this widget and making it > work well. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about the Refactoring Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi jan > Thanks, > > If I understand correctly I can get a refactoring code model of the unloaded code, I do not think so. Even if we are working on Ring just for this scenario I doubt it worked by default. > but I cannot run the code critics on the model. > > Ok, I will have a look what functionality this model provides. And I have to figure out how to construct this model using a collection of Monticello packages. May be you can be interested by RING: the new source code meta model developed by Veronica (the woman behind Torch) She did an excellent job and we need people to use it and give feedback. Our vision is that we want to use RING (a meta model with the same interface as the one of the Smalltalk runobject) so that we can do remote access file browsing version comparison using the same tools. We have a paper under submission if you are interested. Stef > > Jan. > > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This week there was similar thread: http://forum.world.st/Code-Critics-for-unloaded-projects-td3425020.html > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jan van de Sandt <jvdsandt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I want to analyze some Smalltalk code in a collection of Monticello packages without actually loading these packages in the image. Can I use the Refactoring Browser for this? > > Jan. > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

April 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

What we ask is: - scripting api so that we do not have to click click click click but write programs - tagging of projects - management of projects (admin I want to be able to tag projects with students and do not see them). - handling of ^%$$%&*#^&*^$&$* long list of any items - in the future: a solid backend Basically we need scalability at the interface level. Now INRIA gracefully will offer a real back up of data (replicated in three different labs) and people will be able to use smalltalkhub and burn the machine processors :). Stef On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > Excellent ! It's time to move past squeaksource.com. > > Would be nice to know the features that will be offered, at least in > comparison with current squeaksource (besides the image crashing, and > bothering the always helpful Bern phd students). > > Fernando > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 Ã 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >>>> Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a >>>> possibility to migrate the existing squeaksource there? >>> >>> There is nothing at the moment to migrate. >>> >>> I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to >>> smalltalkhub, so a simple script could do the trick. >> >> This is awesome. THanks ESUG! >> >> And the history? I mean, is this a new front end for a squeaksource server >> ? >> >> thanks >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nicolas >>> >>> -- >>> Nicolas Petton >>> http://www.nicolas-petton.fr >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >

April 6, 2011

[Pharo-project] Delay bug

by Gary Chambers

Well, we have been having problems with applications appearing to hang every 6 days or so (sound familiar?). I have identified a bug in the Delay implementation, rather obscure, but highlighted by our applications that make HEAVY use of processes/(tight, a few tens of milliseconds)delays/semaphores etc. Naturally due to an edge case on millisecond clock rollover... Affects all Squeak/Pharo versions, as far as I can tell. (It is separate from the OSProcess issues I have posted about a few weeks ago). I've developed a potential fix, though I'll have to let you all know whether (hopefully) successful in a week or two... fingers crossed! I hope it is fixable, last hurdle for business applications, from our point of view. I'll post details when fix confirmed or failed then. Regards, Gary

April 6, 2011