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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by Dale Henrichs

Randal, Managing packages on a per platform basis is one of the things that Metacello was designed to do ... Dale On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > Serge> <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: >>> > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >>> >>> Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Sorry. > > Serge> There was no announcement on squeak-dev. > Serge> Nicolas forget about that i guess. > > OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the "tagging" > issue comes up again. How do we identify which branch of Squeak a > package might be for? And can we maintain forks for those things that > require it? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion >

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by Serge Stinckwich

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > Serge> <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: >>> > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >>> >>> Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Â Sorry. > > Serge> There was no announcement on squeak-dev. > Serge> Nicolas forget about that i guess. > > OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the "tagging" > issue comes up again. Â How do we identify which branch of Squeak a > package might be for? Â And can we maintain forks for those things that > require it? At the code level, you can manage several Squeak/Pharo branchs with the help of Metacello. At the repository level, i dunno if this possible to use this kind of information for the web site. And i guess not every projects use (or want to use) Metacello, so suitable tags might be needed. There is no obligation for every communities or projects to be on SmalltalkHub, like every git repositories is not on github. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2.1 on Windows XP

by Benoit St-Jean

Hello everyone, Just to let you know that an "out-of-the-box" one-click Pharo 1.2.1 image on Windows XP fails one the following SUnit tests in TestRunner (see attached image). Most of the failing test are located in the ImageSegmentTestExport test suite. In every of those cases, the problem is located in #deleteFileNamed:ifAbsent: method. In the meantime, I might have a look at it tomorrow if I have time. Can anyone confirm that this is reproduceable on other Windows machines ? ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein)

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz Serge> <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: >> Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >> >> Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Â Sorry. Serge> There was no announcement on squeak-dev. Serge> Nicolas forget about that i guess. OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the "tagging" issue comes up again. How do we identify which branch of Squeak a package might be for? And can we maintain forks for those things that require it? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by Serge Stinckwich

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) > > Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Â Sorry. There was no announcement on squeak-dev. Nicolas forget about that i guess. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> writes: Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Sorry. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by Serge Stinckwich

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Janko" == Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> writes: > >>> I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... > > Janko> But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that > Janko> with some #archive tag or something. > > It's not like Squeaksource is going away any time soon. > > Remember, Pharo isn't the *only* Squeak out there. Â If the Pharo team > wants to move off Squeaksource, that's great! Â We were already talking > about how to tag various packages as "squeak-only" or "pharo-only". > This simplifies that. Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) Regards. -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Janko" == Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> writes: >> I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... Janko> But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that Janko> with some #archive tag or something. It's not like Squeaksource is going away any time soon. Remember, Pharo isn't the *only* Squeak out there. If the Pharo team wants to move off Squeaksource, that's great! We were already talking about how to tag various packages as "squeak-only" or "pharo-only". This simplifies that. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello chapter

by Serge Stinckwich

https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english/pull/3 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:10 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Cool. BTW, I have a pending pull request on the Socket chapter. > > what is it? > what do you mean? > what do you need? > > Stef > > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

by Serge Stinckwich

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it. > > But, maybe there are practical reasons. > > In any case, the idea of having programatic access is really cool. I would love to use that for analysis purposes. Yes you are right, it might be difficult to say what is important and what is not. If you take the example of github and look at the explore dashboard here: https://github.com/explore you see only repositories with a lot of activities or the trendiest one. I guess there is also a lot of repositories non active or dormant on github also and nobody cares about that. You just need enough disk space ;-) Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 7, 2011