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Re: [Pharo-project] About Zinc to replace HTTPClient

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

I would like to know exactly what features will provide Zn and which not. As I remember form the past was not planned to support for example https, which prevent to use OAuth and OpenID, very needed to develop any interaction against any modern web site. Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2011/4/16 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > Am 15.04.2011 um 22:12 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > >> Hi guys >> >> we discuss with sven about strategies to get a better infrastructure and the HTTP level. >> Sven would like to have feedback on Zinc before pushing it in Pharo :) >> So can you let us know. What we could do it to have it in a preview in 1.3 >> then in 1.4 remove HTTPClient (or friend). > > This is really good. To me (meaning Â IMHO) it is one of the most missing functionalities in pharo. Zinc is really great and so much better than _anything_ in pharo that pretends to do HTTP. I would like to see it that we don't talk about HTTP but about proper MIME based communication. I think the very core that is in there is the structured and flexible mime media handling and communication. And this is not only true for HTTP but also for email. > I would like to see that Zinc creeping into the image bringing the mime stuff along. Than the mime stuff should break loose of the Zinc components and should replace the mime handling that is in the image. Than we have it for http and for mail sending and for every other transport protocol you can imagine. > And now that Paul ported zinc to gemstone you can develop good http handlers that are easily ported to gemstone. What a wonderful world! > And seaside? Well, if the current http adaptors are much faster than zinc than there should be shortcut path through zinc that allows fast handling of the minimal stuff seaside needs. The same problem goes for the WARequest stuff. Using zinc you can get access to the mime parts. Now WARequest is a strange request object that contains a dictionary for request parameters and a raw message body. If only compatibility is important than a zinc to old WARequest handling is needed. But I would like to see the mime based handling to be the "normal" way of doing and not vice versa. But I can see that it must be a special treatment as seaside is ported to so many platforms that don't have zinc. Probably one reasone more to extract the mime stuff. It might be a promininent candidate other platforms adopt. > > my two cents, > > Norbert > > >

April 16, 2011

[Pharo-project] Desktop application with Pharo

by laurent laffont

I'm searching for a way to create desktop applications with Pharo (no multiple window). Here's the current snippet that do what I want. Improvements / better code is really really welcome. How I can change the title of the window ? The snippet to evaluate in Workspace: counter := Class new superclass: Object; addInstVarNamed: 'counter'; compile: 'initialize counter := 0'; compile: 'counterString ^ counter asString'; compile: 'increment counter := counter + 1. self changed:#counterString'; compile: 'decrement counter := counter - 1. self changed:#counterString'; new. panel := UITheme builder newPanel. panel layoutPolicy: ProportionalLayout new. panel addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabelFor: counter getLabel: #counterString getEnabled: nil) fullFrame: (LayoutFrame fractions: (0@0 corner: 1(a)0.5)) panel addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: counter action: #increment label: '+' help: nil) fullFrame: (LayoutFrame fractions: (0(a)0.5 corner: 0.5@1)). panel addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: counter action: #decrement label: '-' help: nil) fullFrame: (LayoutFrame fractions: (0.5(a)0.5 corner: 1@1)). World submorphs do: [:aMorph| aMorph delete]. World layoutPolicy: ProportionalLayout new; addMorph: panel fullFrame: (LayoutFrame fractions: (0@0 corner: 1@1)). Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] About Zinc to replace HTTPClient

by Norbert Hartl

Am 15.04.2011 um 22:12 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > Hi guys > > we discuss with sven about strategies to get a better infrastructure and the HTTP level. > Sven would like to have feedback on Zinc before pushing it in Pharo :) > So can you let us know. What we could do it to have it in a preview in 1.3 > then in 1.4 remove HTTPClient (or friend). This is really good. To me (meaning IMHO) it is one of the most missing functionalities in pharo. Zinc is really great and so much better than _anything_ in pharo that pretends to do HTTP. I would like to see it that we don't talk about HTTP but about proper MIME based communication. I think the very core that is in there is the structured and flexible mime media handling and communication. And this is not only true for HTTP but also for email. I would like to see that Zinc creeping into the image bringing the mime stuff along. Than the mime stuff should break loose of the Zinc components and should replace the mime handling that is in the image. Than we have it for http and for mail sending and for every other transport protocol you can imagine. And now that Paul ported zinc to gemstone you can develop good http handlers that are easily ported to gemstone. What a wonderful world! And seaside? Well, if the current http adaptors are much faster than zinc than there should be shortcut path through zinc that allows fast handling of the minimal stuff seaside needs. The same problem goes for the WARequest stuff. Using zinc you can get access to the mime parts. Now WARequest is a strange request object that contains a dictionary for request parameters and a raw message body. If only compatibility is important than a zinc to old WARequest handling is needed. But I would like to see the mime based handling to be the "normal" way of doing and not vice versa. But I can see that it must be a special treatment as seaside is ported to so many platforms that don't have zinc. Probably one reasone more to extract the mime stuff. It might be a promininent candidate other platforms adopt. my two cents, Norbert

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Are you a Pharo contributor ??? [WAS] Re: Pharo Open Source Smalltalk â Contributors

by laurent laffont

Done Laurent. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > can you change my text to > > "Independent Consultant. Contributed the Cog VM ( > http://www.mirandabanda.org/cog) originator of method tags." > > and my picture to the attached? > > TIA > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> if true...then what are you wainting for? >> >> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors >> >> Send you data and nice picture :) >> >> Seriously, it is important for marketing among other things. Imagine you >> arrive to a new project...it is good to see that there are several >> contributing to it. Probably this page is not the best, but is something >> more. >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:18 PM, laurent laffont < >> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Added ! >>> >>> Laurent. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Juan Vuletich <juan(a)jvuletich.org>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Laurent, >>>> >>>> I'd like to be added to >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors . My picture is >>>> attached. Description text could be "Contributed the default anti-aliased >>>> fonts and the SimpleMorphic UI framework. Web page at www.jvuletich.org >>>> ". >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Juan Vuletich >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Are you a Pharo contributor ??? [WAS] Re: Pharo Open Source Smalltalk â Contributors

by laurent laffont

Done. Have I really read "Treasurer of ESUG and ***Pharo Association***" ? Laurent On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Please add me too. > > ---- > Luc Fabresse > Permanent researcher at *Ecole des Mines de Douai> > http://www.mines-douai.fr*. > Use Pharo for teaching and research projects. > > Treasurer of ESUG and Pharo Association. > ----- > > #Luc > > > > 2011/4/14 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> Done ! >> >> Laurent >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Diogenes Moreira < >> diogenes.moreira(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> i forget the picture [image: photo.jpg] >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Diogenes Moreira < >>> diogenes.moreira(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok.. Well >>>> >>>> DiÃ³genes Alberto Moreira >>>> CTO at Ilon S.A. and CTO at Sociadad Anonima para la Salud S.A. ( >>>> www.ilon.com.ar) >>>> Contributor on DBXTalk (http://squeakdbx.org) and other projects. >>>> >>>> Smalltalker And Pharo's lover :) >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >>>> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> if true...then what are you wainting for? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors >>>>> >>>>> Send you data and nice picture :) >>>>> >>>>> Seriously, it is important for marketing among other things. Imagine >>>>> you arrive to a new project...it is good to see that there are several >>>>> contributing to it. Probably this page is not the best, but is something >>>>> more. >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:18 PM, laurent laffont < >>>>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Added ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Juan Vuletich <juan(a)jvuletich.org>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Laurent, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to be added to >>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors . My picture is >>>>>>> attached. Description text could be "Contributed the default anti-aliased >>>>>>> fonts and the SimpleMorphic UI framework. Web page at >>>>>>> www.jvuletich.org". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Juan Vuletich >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mariano >>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Making OB / RB / OCompletion / Shout to work on Pharo 1.3

by Lukas Renggli

> OBCodeBrowserÂ >> subscribe > Â Â Â "We want to be notified first about changes of the definition, so that > we can replace it with a custom one." > > Â Â Â | actions | > Â Â Â super subscribe. > Â Â Â actions := announcer subscriptions > Â Â Â Â Â Â at: OBDefinitionChanged > Â Â Â Â Â Â ifAbsent: [ ActionSequence new ]. > Â Â Â announcer subscriptions > Â Â Â Â Â Â at: OBDefinitionChanged > Â Â Â Â Â Â put: (actions copyWithFirst: (MessageSend > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â receiver: self > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â selector: #definitionChanged:)) > > to: > > OBCodeBrowserÂ >> subscribe > Â Â Â "We want to be notified first about changes of the definition, so that > we can replace it with a custom one." > > Â Â Â | actions | > Â Â Â super subscribe. > Â Â Â announcer on: OBDefinitionChanged send: #definitionChanged: to: self. This change breaks the undo/redo mechanism of class definitions and subsequently the undo/redo mechanism of all other code changes and refactorings. > And from: > > OBTextMorphWithShout >> editorClass > Â Â Â "Answer the class used to create the receiver's editor" > > Â Â Â ^OBTextMorphEditorWithShout > > to: > > OBTextMorphWithShout >> editorClass > Â Â Â "Answer the class used to create the receiver's editor" > > Â Â Â ^SmalltalkEditor This breaks OB in various ways. Not every editor is a Smalltalk editor, there are lots of editors that don't need Smalltalk semantics (editing comments, editing organization, displaying lint results, displaying diffs, ...). Furthermore, OBTextMorphWithShould should be gone. It is not needed any longer and was removed to make OB properly work in Pharo 1.2. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1915 in pharo: Making ToolSet more flexible

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Started Comment #13 on issue 1915 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Making ToolSet more flexible http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1915 (No comment was entered for this change.)

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 4032 in pharo: Remove "Mail to list" in ChangeSorter

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Duplicate Mergedinto: 4031 Comment #1 on issue 4032 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Remove "Mail to list" in ChangeSorter http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4032 (No comment was entered for this change.)

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 4031 in pharo: Remove "Mail to list" in ChangeSorter

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #1 on issue 4031 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Remove "Mail to list" in ChangeSorter http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4031 Issue 4032 has been merged into this issue.

April 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3872 in pharo: [Failing Test] 1.3 HttpUrlTest.testHttps

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: FixToInclude Comment #5 on issue 3872 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: [Failing Test] 1.3 HttpUrlTest.testHttps http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3872 hhmm... seems to have been omited on the actual updated

April 16, 2011