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[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13160

by Marcus Denker

13160 ----- Issue 4040: SystemNavigation allClassesDo: should do it via environment Issue 4035: on #cleanUpForRelease, clean changeset at the end again Issue 4034: Deprecate TranslucentProgressMorrph + some dead code removal -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] jtalk fun

by Nicolas Petton

Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 Ã 22:18 +0200, Richard Durr a Ã©crit : > I do hope ^^ > > > This makes working with "native" Javascript-Libraries hard (remembers > me of how this is done in ObjJ). Does it look *that* hard? > Another problem is the extension of native JS "types" which can > conflict with other libraries as well. I have a feeling that his can > be solved by using some form of automatic wrapping like underscore.js > uses to extend native JS-Arrays: > _(someArray).canCallCoolforEachMethodNow() . Yes, but I like the fact that Jtalk maps Smalltalk constructs one-to-one with JS equivalents. > > > > A ST dispatch method > (asSmalltalkObject(someJavascriptObject).nowICanCallSmalltalkObjectsMethods() ) could also swap "undefined" and "null" for nil then automatically. However, this would bring a small runtime cost. Switching to a fully externalized and decoupled message-send implementation like in ObjJ would allow DNU then as well. smalltalkMessageSend(someObject, 'doSomething:', anObject); That's really interesting. Now, again, I would worry about the runtime cost. Jtalk maps message sends to function calls. That's what makes Jtalk fast. Cheers, Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Transcript rant

by Fernando Olivero

>From the release notes of CUIS: "New Transcript Fast (Calls return quickly) Fast (Updates are immediate) Thread safe Can log to file in addition to Display Display output is optional (for headless images) Can work on a bare bones image (Doesn't need UI, dependency, events, processes) Optional morphic window for seamless integration in Morphic UI framework agnostic. Can be used to debug Morphic, even with the morphic window open, without crashing the image! No longer a text editor. Display is read only." The idea of the current Transcript are, not to use a standart widget for decoupling from Morphic, in case of errors the transcript still remains functional. I propose adding a new transcript morph, that has the previous functionality ( cut and paste ), but keep the new transcript model ( as in the ISSUE 3948). Fernando On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:59 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > How can I get the old transcript? > > Stef > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > >> I propose some modifications to the Transcript as a (singleton) class, >> and revert to the use of TranscriptModel. >> >> See the latest post on 3948: Â Transcript and ThreadedTranscript needs >> to be merged. >> >> Fernando >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 6 April 2011 20:24, Â <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> wrote: >>>> Em 06/04/2011 09:07, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> escreveu: >>>>>> On 6 April 2011 13:54, Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch> >>>> Â Â wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Hi Stef, i will as an initial step take Igor's suggestion and make >>>>>> Transcript a global wich Â points to an instance of TranscriptModel >>>>>> ( the new name i propose for the current class taken from CUIS). >>>>>> I still Â believe that composition Â is better then Â inheritance for >>>>>> handling different behaviors of the Transcript, so i argue against >>>>>> making it a subclass of WriteStream and making it polymorphic with >>>>>> a write stream instead. >>>>>> >>>>> Â That's totally Â not my concern. As Â long as thing Â which sits there >>>>> Â responds to writestream protocol , i don't care about rest. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Would it make sense then to lift the methods from {write}stream and >>>> put then in a Trait so the composition is made through reuse of code? >>>> >>>> My 0.0199999.... >>> >>> hehe.. yes, but if to follow this road every time you need to do small >>> improvement, >>> then at some day you will discover that you rewriting whole system >>> from scratch :) >>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cesar Rabak >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >>> >> > >

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] new mailinglist for tracker mails

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

Many thanks, Marcus! -- Cheers, Peter. On 18 apr 2011, at 08:23, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > The mails from the google tracker now go to this list: > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker > > in turn, this means the traffic on the pharo-project list should be a bit more managable. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

April 18, 2011

[Pharo-project] [ANN] new mailinglist for tracker mails

by Marcus Denker

The mails from the google tracker now go to this list: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker in turn, this means the traffic on the pharo-project list should be a bit more managable. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Networking change in Pharo 1.2?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Two thoughts: (1) Gary recently mentioned a delay fix that IIRC was in Squeak but had not yet made it into Pharo. It might be central to the problem?? > Gary's fix was not in Squeak... It is now for testing in 1.2.2a and 1.3 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Networking change in Pharo 1.2?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Chris Muller wrote: > I was able to work on getting Magma 1.2 going in Pharo. It was quite > easy to get the code loaded and functioning in Pharo 1.1.1, Pharo 1.2, > and Pharo 1.3. > > But something seems to have changed in Pharo's networking from 1.1.1 > to 1.2. All Magma functionality seems to work fine for low-volume > activity. However, when the test-suite gets to the HA test cases (at > the end), one of the images performing heavy networking activity, > consistently gets very slow and bogged down for some reason; causing > the clients to timeout and disrupting the test suite. Fortunately, it > happens in the same place in the test-suite every time. > > The UI of the image in question becomes VERY sluggish, but > MessageTally spyAllOn: didn't reveal anything useful. What is it > doing? I did verify that the Magma server in that image is still > functioning; clients were committing, but I had to increase their > timeouts from 10 to 45 seconds to avoid timeouts.. > Oh... this could be related to finalization / weak references in some way? > Unfortunately, two days of wrangling in Pharo (because I'm an old > Squeak dog) I could not nail the problem down; but I have one > suspect.. A couple of times, I caught a process seemingly hung up in > NetworkNameResolver; trying to resolve an IP from 'localhost'. > The only change to NetNameResolver was this: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1853 Socket in general did not see many changes: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone%3D1.2+Socket > This exact set of Magma packages is rock-solid on Pharo 1.1.1 and > Squeak, but that doesn't mean the problem for sure lies in Pharo 1.2; > maybe a networking bug in 1.1.1 is allowing Magma to "misuse" the > network and get away with it and Pharo 1.2 is now more strict? I > don't know, I would just like to ask the experts here for help who > know all what went into Pharo 1.2 so hopefully we can get to the > bottom of it. > > Thanks, > Chris > -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 49 - ClassFactoryWithOrganization

by Alexandre Bergel

I am similar to ClassFactoryForTestCase (i.e., I can be used in place of a ClassFactoryForTestCase), expect that classes may be created on a specific class category. Alexandre On 17 Apr 2011, at 15:36, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I'm a class to create classes with a category. I'm only used by Tests. > > > On Apr 17, 2011, at 9:26 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> ClassFactoryWithOrganization > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Networking change in Pharo 1.2?

by Elliot Finley

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Chris Muller <ma.chris.m(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, two days of wrangling in Pharo (because I'm an old > Squeak dog) I could not nail the problem down; but I have one > suspect.. Â A couple of times, I caught a process seemingly hung up in > NetworkNameResolver; trying to resolve an IP from 'localhost'. probably related to this: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/magma/2010-September/001594.html

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and CommandShell

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Can you try evaluating ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load. And then Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: #stable) load. if it works, I explain you what it was. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM, sourav roy <sourav_pharo(a)in.com> wrote: > hi.... > while loading i m getting some error. Please advice... > > c the attachment > > Thanks > Sourav > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From:"Miguel CobÃ¡"< miguel.coba(a)gmail.com > > Date: 14 Apr 11 01:59:21 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and CommandShell > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > OSProcess is supported and all tests are green in Pharo 1.1 and Pharo > 1.2. > > The stable version for Pharo 1.2 is the 4.4.0 but you can also load and > run 4.3.11 and 4.3.12 (although if you don't disable deprecations > warnings a lot of pop ups will show). 4.4.0 doesn't have problems with > deprecated methods. > > To load: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: #stable) > load. > > C ommandShell hasn't a configuration so you'll have to load it from the > > monticello repository following the documentation of it somewhere in the > wiki. > > Cheers > > El miÃ©, 13-04-2011 a las 15:23 -0300, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto > escribiÃ³: > > I'd like to know the state of: > > > > OSProcess > > and > > CommandShell > > > > under pharo. > > > > There's a ConfigurationOfOSProcess but there's no > > ConfigurationOfCommandShell. > > > > What's working and what's not working? > > > > Best regards > > > > CdAB > > > > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > > > > > Get Your self a cool, short *(a)in.com* Email ID now!<http://mail.in.com/mails/new_reg.php?utm_source=invite&utm_medium=outgoing> > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 17, 2011