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Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2018-03-02 11:12 GMT-03:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > you mean that gitFILETREE:// would somehow use TONEL? That hardly seems like > a good idea. > > However there's gitlocal:// ... (which iirc handles both) but I think that's > iceberg specific. Sometimes I feel I need something like "The ultimate guide to SCM with Pharo" to cover all options in between of the good'ol Monticello to the automagical Iceberg with Github (and maybe others like Gitlab, etc.). Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

you mean that gitFILETREE:// would somehow use TONEL? That hardly seems like a good idea. However there's gitlocal:// ... (which iirc handles both) but I think that's iceberg specific. Peter On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote > > you would need something like gittonel://, which doesn't exist > > Shouldn't this be done via configuration (e.g. .filetree) to cover cases > like `github://` where tonel/FT cannot be embedded in the URL? > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html > >

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Sean P. DeNigris

Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote > you would need something like gittonel://, which doesn't exist Shouldn't this be done via configuration (e.g. .filetree) to cover cases like `github://` where tonel/FT cannot be embedded in the URL? ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I introduce a new package in Pharo 70

by Sean P. DeNigris

CyrilFerlicot wrote > You need to: Cool. Is this in the contribution instructions? ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Request for comment] Hermes package

by Stephane Ducasse

Thanks Pablo this is cool! On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:42 PM, tesonep(a)gmail.com <tesonep(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nice Idea, I have added comments to the packages, classes and methods. This > will be in the new version that will be integrated with the new Traits > implementation. > I am still cleaning some comments that Denis and Pavel have done and we can > integrate it. > > Then we change the name, I liked BootstrapCodeLoader, I think I can find a > non conflicting prefix. > > Cheers. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > While it is very bootstrap oriented library it would be better to rename >> > it >> > to BootstapCodeLoader. >> > Or PharoBootstrap-CodeLoader because we already use this prefix >> > >> > 2018-03-01 13:20 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >> >> >> >> Hermes is a private binary format that is used to load compiled code >> >> when there is no compiler during the bootstrap. >> >> So basically hermes is loading the compiler to be able to compile >> >> other packages. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> > Side question: What is Hermes? >> >> > >> >> > Alexandre >> >> > >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> ... to all participating authors of the Hermes package: >> >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE COMMENT YOUR CLASSES SO WE CAN CLEAN UP AND PREPARE A >> >> >> POLISHED PHARO 7 RELEASE >> >> >> >> >> >> So many uncommented classes in there today... >> >> >> >> >> >> We can do better and we should. I dont ask for detailed >> >> >> documentation >> >> >> but a single comment why the class is there or what it should care >> >> >> about is often already enough. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you have time to write code then you also have the time to write >> >> >> a simple class comment! >> >> >> >> >> >> So please do you homework (which is a general request to authors >> >> >> of other packages as well) >> >> >> >> >> >> Bye >> >> >> T. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- > Pablo Tesone. > tesonep(a)gmail.com

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is Smalltalk CI working with 6.1?

by Stephane Ducasse

Ok thanks for the information. The error was not informative so I could not really get what to do. Stef On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is because tonel is not yet supported. > > I've worked on that a bit last year but I don't know why I stopped... I > think because I couldn't commit to SmalltalkCI without generating billion > metadata changes (tried different Pharo versions, iceberg, gitfiletree, > filetree), and in the end got frustrated and stopped. > > If someone wants to continue, it should be pretty straight-forward > https://github.com/peteruhnak/smalltalkCI/commit/413e6a59b30e869ab49c4b50b7… > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Looks Ok to me. >> >> We have some baselines with 6.1 support and SmalltalkCI running against >> travis and it works. >> >> But not in tonel format, we're using the old filetree format, so maybe >> there's something to configure to enable tonel support in SmalltalkCI? >> >> Just for reference look at the baseline and SmalltalkCI code in >> https://github.com/ba-st/Buoy . >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm trying to make travis and smalltalkci working for the roelTyper. >>> Followed the tutorial of Peter >>> but I cannot make it work. >>> >>> https://travis-ci.org/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper >>> >>> I get this error >>> >>> ..RETRY->BaselineOfRoelTyper >>> ...RETRY->BaselineOfRoelTyper >>> ...FAILED->BaselineOfRoelTyperCould not resolve: BaselineOfRoelTyper >>> [BaselineOfRoelTyper] in >>> /home/travis/smalltalkCI-master/_builds/pharo-local/package-cache >>> filetree:///home/travis/build/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper/src >>> >>> and I have no idea how to debug it since the BaselineOfRoelTyper is in >>> the src folder >>> >>> https://github.com/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper/tree/master/src >>> >>> I do not have idea how to debug this. >>> >>> Stef >>> >> >

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Stephane Ducasse

So I found my problem - old version in my way - src missing and adding it did not change So after trying retrying and retrying and the help of esteban showing me that it works on his machine I got it debugged. Now I can work. Stef On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > you would need something like gittonel://, which doesn't exist > > but you could still use tonel://, commit in pharo using metacello, and then > in command line using git... annoying but if you want to use tonel+git > without iceberg, then you have no other choice (unless you actually create > gittonel://) > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: >> >> I will not be able to try soon. Semester is starting here, with its load >> of thingsâ¦ >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On Mar 1, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Alex >> > >> > Now I was thinking that it should be easy to introduce a tonel fileout >> > menu on a package. We should pay attention to extensions differently. >> > Then for loading I would just support load and no merge since the >> > merge will be done by git on the command-line. >> > If you give a try, I would like to try because right now I'm stuck >> > with my book code. >> > I do not have the time to try to hack this now. But may be saturday on >> > the highway if I do not drive. >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Stephane Ducasse >> > <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I read >> >> >> >> https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-p… >> >> and I have the impression that I cannot use tonel and gitfiletree. >> >> >> >> So I will wait for the next version of iceberg and focus on my >> >> vacation during that period. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> That would be fantastic to have! >> >>> >> >>> Alexandre >> >>> >> >>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Stephane Ducasse >> >>>> <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi >> >>>> >> >>>> I would like to use git without iceberg. >> >>>> It is possible to use gitfiletree with tonel? >> >>>> >> >>>> I want to commit in tonel format >> >>>> from Pharo 6.1 and not using Iceberg because it does not work >> >>>> on my code. >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm looking for a small tutorial. >> >>>> >> >>>> Stef >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> >

March 2, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

you would need something like gittonel://, which doesn't exist but you could still use tonel://, commit in pharo using metacello, and then in command line using git... annoying but if you want to use tonel+git without iceberg, then you have no other choice (unless you actually create gittonel://) On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I will not be able to try soon. Semester is starting here, with its load > of thingsâ¦ > > Alexandre > > > > On Mar 1, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Alex > > > > Now I was thinking that it should be easy to introduce a tonel fileout > > menu on a package. We should pay attention to extensions differently. > > Then for loading I would just support load and no merge since the > > merge will be done by git on the command-line. > > If you give a try, I would like to try because right now I'm stuck > > with my book code. > > I do not have the time to try to hack this now. But may be saturday on > > the highway if I do not drive. > > > > Stef > > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Stephane Ducasse > > <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I read > >> https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use- > git-and-github-with-pharo/ > >> and I have the impression that I cannot use tonel and gitfiletree. > >> > >> So I will wait for the next version of iceberg and focus on my > >> vacation during that period. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel > >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >>> That would be fantastic to have! > >>> > >>> Alexandre > >>> > >>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> I would like to use git without iceberg. > >>>> It is possible to use gitfiletree with tonel? > >>>> > >>>> I want to commit in tonel format > >>>> from Pharo 6.1 and not using Iceberg because it does not work > >>>> on my code. > >>>> > >>>> I'm looking for a small tutorial. > >>>> > >>>> Stef > >>>> > >>> > >>> > > > > >

March 1, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is Smalltalk CI working with 6.1?

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

This is because tonel is not yet supported. I've worked on that a bit last year but I don't know why I stopped... I think because I couldn't commit to SmalltalkCI without generating billion metadata changes (tried different Pharo versions, iceberg, gitfiletree, filetree), and in the end got frustrated and stopped. If someone wants to continue, it should be pretty straight-forward https://github.com/peteruhnak/smalltalkCI/commit/413e6a59b30e869ab49c4b50b7… On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Looks Ok to me. > > We have some baselines with 6.1 support and SmalltalkCI running against > travis and it works. > > But not in tonel format, we're using the old filetree format, so maybe > there's something to configure to enable tonel support in SmalltalkCI? > > Just for reference look at the baseline and SmalltalkCI code in > https://github.com/ba-st/Buoy . > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I'm trying to make travis and smalltalkci working for the roelTyper. >> Followed the tutorial of Peter >> but I cannot make it work. >> >> https://travis-ci.org/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper >> >> I get this error >> >> ..RETRY->BaselineOfRoelTyper >> ...RETRY->BaselineOfRoelTyper >> ...FAILED->BaselineOfRoelTyperCould not resolve: BaselineOfRoelTyper >> [BaselineOfRoelTyper] in >> /home/travis/smalltalkCI-master/_builds/pharo-local/package-cache >> filetree:///home/travis/build/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper/src >> >> and I have no idea how to debug it since the BaselineOfRoelTyper is in >> the src folder >> >> https://github.com/RMODINRIA/RoelTyper/tree/master/src >> >> I do not have idea how to debug this. >> >> Stef >> >> >

March 1, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use git with gitfiletree

by Alexandre Bergel

I will not be able to try soon. Semester is starting here, with its load of thingsâ¦ Alexandre > On Mar 1, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Alex > > Now I was thinking that it should be easy to introduce a tonel fileout > menu on a package. We should pay attention to extensions differently. > Then for loading I would just support load and no merge since the > merge will be done by git on the command-line. > If you give a try, I would like to try because right now I'm stuck > with my book code. > I do not have the time to try to hack this now. But may be saturday on > the highway if I do not drive. > > Stef > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Stephane Ducasse > <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I read >> https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-p… >> and I have the impression that I cannot use tonel and gitfiletree. >> >> So I will wait for the next version of iceberg and focus on my >> vacation during that period. >> >> Stef >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> That would be fantastic to have! >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I would like to use git without iceberg. >>>> It is possible to use gitfiletree with tonel? >>>> >>>> I want to commit in tonel format >>>> from Pharo 6.1 and not using Iceberg because it does not work >>>> on my code. >>>> >>>> I'm looking for a small tutorial. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>> >>> >

March 1, 2018