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Re: [Pharo-project] How to load Nautilus?

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Here a screenshot of the second UI, more classic: Third and Fourth panes have the same name -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to load Nautilus?

by Benjamin

Thanks for the screen :) Here a screenshot of the second UI, more classic: Ben On May 9, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > A screenshot to motivate people to try it out > > Alexandre > > <Screen shot 2011-05-09 at 11.38.03.png> > > On 9 May 2011, at 11:13, Benjamin wrote: > >> Your image is not up to date. >> >> Stef should have integrate this last weekend. >> >> Normally, it should work with the last 1.3 image. >> >> Ben >> >> On May 9, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> I get a warning: >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> This package depends on the following classes: >>> AbstractTool >>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >>> NautilusUI >>> NautilusUI classSide>>buildIcon >>> NautilusUI classSide>>icon >>> NautilusUI classSide>>on: >>> ... >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2011, at 10:42, Benjamin wrote: >>> >>>> I just fixed that. >>>> >>>> Now, you have a menu entry for each UI, and if you set Nautilus as the default browser, you will have the first one (you can change that by changing Nautilus>>uiClass) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Benjamin, are you using Nautilus to develop? Is it stable now? >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9 May 2011, at 10:07, Benjamin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot, it's cool :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to know how to do that ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now ConfigurationOfNautilus loads RPackage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the last 1.3 core image: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gofer new >>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; >>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is now a Hudson Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Nautilus/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The latest image zipped is always here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Nautilus/lastSuccessfulBuild/art… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

May 10, 2011

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May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to load Nautilus?

by Benjamin

On May 9, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 9 May 2011 17:39, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> A screenshot to motivate people to try it out >> > > This guy has so much energy.. i need to think how to exploit it :) Stef already found how to :) Ben > > >> Alexandre >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to load Nautilus?

by Benjamin

I do not event know this shortcut ^^ Let's add it ;) Ben On May 9, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Ben, I miss Cmd-t to execute the unit tests :-) > > Alexandre > > > On 9 May 2011, at 11:13, Benjamin wrote: > >> Your image is not up to date. >> >> Stef should have integrate this last weekend. >> >> Normally, it should work with the last 1.3 image. >> >> Ben >> >> On May 9, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> I get a warning: >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> This package depends on the following classes: >>> AbstractTool >>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >>> NautilusUI >>> NautilusUI classSide>>buildIcon >>> NautilusUI classSide>>icon >>> NautilusUI classSide>>on: >>> ... >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2011, at 10:42, Benjamin wrote: >>> >>>> I just fixed that. >>>> >>>> Now, you have a menu entry for each UI, and if you set Nautilus as the default browser, you will have the first one (you can change that by changing Nautilus>>uiClass) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Benjamin, are you using Nautilus to develop? Is it stable now? >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9 May 2011, at 10:07, Benjamin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot, it's cool :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to know how to do that ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now ConfigurationOfNautilus loads RPackage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the last 1.3 core image: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gofer new >>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; >>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is now a Hudson Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Nautilus/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The latest image zipped is always here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Nautilus/lastSuccessfulBuild/art… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Configuration of Ring

by Marcus Denker

On May 9, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote: > Hi, > > On 09 May 2011, at 18:18, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Can you provide a Gofer doit expression to load it? > Hudson build: https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Ring/ -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with CompiledMethodTrailer

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On May 10, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > what is even worst, is that even after removing those correct CM, and > doing a GC etc...they still don't disappear. > > > > There is > > ScriptLoader new cleanUpMethods > > This is called from #cleanUpForRelease and normally should make sure there > are no old methods. > > hehehehe if I do: ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease, then inspect ((CompiledMethod allInstances select: [:each | each trailer kind = #VarLengthSourcePointer] ) ) they are not GC'ed and if then I click on the first element in the inspector.... VM CRASH!!! with both, InterpreterVM and CogVM. :( > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with CompiledMethodTrailer

by Marcus Denker

On May 10, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > what is even worst, is that even after removing those correct CM, and doing a GC etc...they still don't disappear. > There is ScriptLoader new cleanUpMethods This is called from #cleanUpForRelease and normally should make sure there are no old methods. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] out of memory - cog on windows

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I am back with some more input on the matter. We played with it, and found that basically any image that goes beyond something like 200MB limit (or maybe it's the number of objects), will not open on Windows. I would need some help on this. Has nobody else hit this wall, or is it that I am doing something wrong? One scenario that we used to reproduce the problem looks like this: 1. Take a Moose image: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/… 2. Run: 1 to: 3 do: [ :i | MooseScripts createModelForConfigurationOfMoose ] This will basically create some 850000 objects and will get the image to some 400+MB 3. Save and quit the image 4. Reopen it A ready-made image with the result of this can be found here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18323746/Tmp/moose-case-study-windows-problem.zip This works well on Mac, but on Windows when you reopen the image, you get the out of memory message. Cheers, Doru On 27 Apr 2011, at 21:52, Alain_Rastoul wrote: > Hi Tudor, > > Sad that it didn't help you :-(. > You should contact Igor and see if he is still ok to play with your image, > he may certainly be able to find something. > I will try to find this too, because I experienced a similar problem loading > an image saved with the vm I sent you (2G) in the standard vm (512M) after > I've loaded data from odbc , the saved image was about 300 Mo and I had a > memory error loading it with the standard vm. Unfortunatly I didn't keep > this image, I reopend it with the 2G vm, found the hanging references and > reduced it to 40M, but I think I could reproduce it. > You can also send me your image (upload at at http://dl.free.fr with a > notification email - see the web page) , I'll have a try with your image > too. > > > Cheers, > Alain. > > "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit > dans le message de news: 3D8DCC66-E9DD-4AEB-AEC0-E10C615387C7(a)gmail.com... > Hi Alain, > > Thanks for the VM with more memory. I tried it, but it looks like we still > get the same message. > > Where else can the problem be? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 21 Apr 2011, at 23:52, Alain_Rastoul wrote: > >> (And of course Tudor, I forgot to mention it but I can send you this vm if >> you need) >> >> "Alain_Rastoul" >> <alr.dev-GANU6spQydw(a)public.gmane.org> a Ã©crit dans >> le message de news: ioq86o$69j$1(a)dough.gmane.org... >> I thought he was able to start it on a Mac that's why I suggested to this >> on a Mac and see if memory consumption was reduced. >> BTW I have rebuild a cog vm with 2Gb ram for MAX_MEMORY and it runs ok on >> my 1Gb netbook >> >> "Mariano Martinez Peck" >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit dans le >> message de >> news:BANLkTikuk1jRV34=u2pzTFx5+2qWgjrbCQ@mail.gmail.com... >> Alain: as far as I understood, he cannot even start the image...so he >> won't be able to open a workspace and evaluate something. >> >> Doru, if you can evaluate something in a workspace, you may also try >> SpaceTally new printSpaceAnalysis >> and then check the STspace.text that is next to the image. That way you >> acn see if there are certain classes that have a lot of instances. >> >> Can you evaluate "Smalltalk garbageCollect " and tell me the answer? just >> curious.... >> >> thanks >> >> mariano >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Alain_Rastoul >> <alr.dev(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Mmm, you are right, in old squeak versions, there was a parameter >> -memory: xx (xx inMB) >> but I don't know if it is still in use. >> >> BTW there must be some hanging references in memory and perhaps youd >> should >> do some PointerFinder on it. >> A very handy script I found (on Ramon Leon's blog or elsewhere I don't >> remember) could help you. >> You can try it in a workspace and see if it reduces your memory usage >> (after >> save and quit) >> comment unknown or unwanted commands : >> | tasks | >> tasks := OrderedCollection new >> add: [MCFileBasedRepository flushAllCaches]; >> add: [WARegistry clearAllHandlers]; >> " add: [SMSqueakMap default clearCaches];" >> add: [Smalltalk removeEmptyMessageCategories]; >> add: [Workspace >> allSubInstancesDo: [:each | each setBindings: >> Dictionary new]]; >> " add: [Undeclared removeUnreferencedKeys];" >> " add: [Categorizer sortAllCategories];" >> add: [ODBCConnection cleanAll]; >> add: [Symbol compactSymbolTable]; >> " add: [ReleaseBuilderDeveloper new fixObsoleteReferences];" >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollectMost]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [EventManager actionMaps keys do: [:each| EventManager >> releaseActionMapFor: each] ]; >> add: [Debugger closeAllDebuggers]; >> add:[Debugger allInstances do: [ :d | d release ] ]; >> >> yourself. >> UIManager default >> informUserDuring: [:bar | tasks >> do: [:block | >> bar value: block printString. >> [block value] >> on: Error >> do: [:error | Transcript show: error; >> cr]]]. >> >> Regards >> Alain >> >> "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> a >> Ã©crit >> dans le message de news: >> 6AA1F065-3996-433B-AB7C-1640C08D5A7B-Re5JQEeQqe9Ui4FbrNnSJA(a)public.gmane.org >> Hi, >> >> Should I to understand that the only way to enable more memory is to >> recompile the VM? Does that mean that there is no way to pass this >> information as a parameter like we can on Mac? >> >> The problem is that I cannot recompile the VM because I have no access to >> a >> Windows machine. Is there one available that provides more memory? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 21 Apr 2011, at 22:09, Alain_Rastoul wrote: >> >>> Hi Tudor, >>> >>> There is a constant in sqWin32Alloc.h (platforms\win32\vm) : >>> #define MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY 512*1024*1024 >>> you can change it to whatever you want and rebuild the vm, >>> for exzmple give all the available memory less 256 M . >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Regards >>> Alain >>> >>> "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> a >>> Ã©crit >>> dans le message de news: >>> 03B9389F-C719-44D0-B106-2AC78B120F56-Re5JQEeQqe9Ui4FbrNnSJA-XMD5yJDbdMRG2NFembrH+g(a)public.gmane.orgorg >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have no specific startUp: methods in Moose. In any case, the issue >>> with >>> opening the image does not seem to be related to startUp:. >>> >>> Is it really true that the Cog VM is limited to 512MB of memory? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 21 Apr 2011, at 14:27, Luc Fabresse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Doru, >>>> >>>> 2011/4/21 Tudor Girba >>>> <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 21, 2011, at 14:06, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Tudor Girba >>>>> <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi again, >>>>>> >>>>>> I did not say what the problem was :). The problem was that when >>>>>> opening the image on Windows, he got a Space is low message and the >>>>>> image was not usable (see attachment). >>>>> >>>>> That's weird. Does moose have something on the startup list? >>>>> something >>>>> that can be bothering there? >>>> >>>> Not that I know of. Is there a way to check this? >>>> >>>> Classes should be registered using Smalltlak addToStartUpList: aClass >>>> Then aClass class>>#startUp: is executed at startup. >>>> So implementors of #startUp: on Moose classes should give you the >>>> answer. >>>> >>>> #Luc >>>> >>>> >>>> Actually, using exactly the same process some days ago he produced an >>>> image of 190MB. This one works just fine on Windows. The only >>>> difference >>>> between the two is the size of the loaded data. >>>> >>>> It would be really bad news if the Windows vm would be so severely >>>> limited >>>> in terms of memory. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mac it worked just fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21 Apr 2011, at 12:52, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I received a question from someone running a 200MB image on Windows >>>>>>> using Cog 2361. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I open the image on Mac, it works just fine. Unfortunately, I do >>>>>>> not have a Windows machine around, and I cannot test but I believe >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> should be solvable by increasing the allocated memory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mac, I would run it with: ./Croquet -memory 1500m >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone help me with the right incantation for Windows? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Space is low.png> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Yesterday is a fact. >>>>>> Tomorrow is a possibility. >>>>>> Today is a challenge." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mariano >>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Beauty is where we see it." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, >> you will end up with a messy haircut." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Live like you mean it." > > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

May 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with CompiledMethodTrailer

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/5/9 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > > On 9 May 2011 19:42, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Some block closure generally hold onto CompiledMethod. > >> > > Yeah but it doesn't explains why it has broken trailer. > > > > Right, it only explains some methods are not installed > > Hi Nicolas. Thanks for your excellent point. I think it is somehow related to that. Please look the attached screenshot. All the windows for exploring objects are from the incorrect CM, and the windows showing the code is from the correct CM. Its weird because it seems those incorrect CM are pointed from closures inside the correct CM? what is even worst, is that even after removing those correct CM, and doing a GC etc...they still don't disappear. > Nicolas > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 10, 2011