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Re: [Pharo-project] Helvetia... in Squeak

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 12 May 2011, at 09:12, Lukas Renggli wrote: > The builds are not running anymore. Helvetia is based on Pharo 1.1.1. > I don't have the time to maintain the codebase. That's a pity, it was/is quite impressive (I read your paper, have your PhD on my reading list). But I understand. Sven

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 12, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On May 12, 2011, at 3:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Randall >> >> what is the position of squeak regarding the inclusion of qwak code in squeak? > > > My position is to *not* let any GPLed code in Pharo. Because this means that everything > is GPL, and that people therefore will have problems using it to make money in many > cases. > (and no, the GPL does not help to get contributions back: I *do not want* contributions > of code where the author is forced to release code...) Yes this was clear to me for pharo ;D My question was just to know the Squeak point of view.

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 61 - InternetConfiguration

by Marcus Denker

On May 12, 2011, at 3:41 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Today: InternetConfiguration > > I read several parameters related to the OS network preferences, through the InternetConfigPlugin VM module. > > For example, to get the default path where downloaded files should be placed: > > InternetConfiguration getDownloadPath > > > (That said, it's not used in the image). > It is... it's in the startup list and setting the Proxy at SCG since years automatically. (it's only working on the Mac, though) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL/HTTPS - SecureSocketStream/SSLSession forPharo/Squeak and other Smalltalk implementations

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Rob, On 12 May 2011, at 15:52, Rob Withers wrote: > Try this, after loading the Crypto packages. I haven't tried it myself, yet, as I only got on this list and loaded Pharo a few days ago, but I will probably dig into it over the weekend. I did load Crypto, though. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography/SSL-mtf.16.mcz > > Is there a Pharo repository I could drop ported code into? This looks like a quite impressive code base. I think I once heard about this, but never really looked at it. If I understand this correctly, browsing in SqueakSource, this is actually an SSL implementation, 100% done in Smalltalk ? Some questions then: - in what state is the code, does it work ? - how compatible is it wrt SSL standards ? - how fast is it, is it useable ? - why was it not used for SqueakSSL ? Sven

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] compiled VM with Alien for JNIPort

by Mariano Martinez Peck

No idea. Maybe cc'ing vm list may help. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:27 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > wrote: > So following Mariano's blog and pharocasts I've built Cog with > IA32ABIPlugin (works, cool !) > > When starting the JVM following JNIPort instructions on SqueakSource wiki, > the VM crashes. > > GDB bt gives: > > Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory. > Reason: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at address: 0x00000000 > 0x00000000 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00000000 in ?? () > #1 0x000d267a in primCallOutIntegralReturn () at > /Users/laurentlaffont/dev/pharo/vm/blessed/src/plugins/IA32ABI/IA32ABI.c:500 > #2 0x00023a3e in interpret () at > /Users/laurentlaffont/dev/pharo/vm/blessed/src/vm/gcc3x-cointerpmt.c:2037 > #3 0x962ede02 in __CFRunLoopDoObservers () > #4 0x962a9d8d in __CFRunLoopRun () > #5 0x962a9464 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific () > #6 0x962a9291 in CFRunLoopRunInMode () > #7 0x934dce04 in RunCurrentEventLoopInMode () > #8 0x934dcaf5 in ReceiveNextEventCommon () > #9 0x934dca3e in BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode () > #10 0x9644778d in _DPSNextEvent () > #11 0x96446fce in -[NSApplication > nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] () > #12 0x96409247 in -[NSApplication run] () > #13 0x964012d9 in NSApplicationMain () > #14 0x00078247 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffff680, envp=0xbffff688) at > /Users/laurentlaffont/dev/pharo/vm/blessed/platforms/iOS/vm/Common/main.m:52 > (gdb) > > Any idea ? > > Laurent. > > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 9 May 2011 21:23, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, laurent laffont < >>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, laurent laffont >>> >> <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> is there a compiled VM available with Alien for OSX ? I want to use >>> >>> JNIPort. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Second question, if I need to compile the VM, which one should I use >>> for >>> >> Alien ? Cog is OK ? >>> > >>> > Yes. Cog is OK. >>> >>> And what plugin? NewsqueakIA32ABIPlugin, right? >>> >> >> No, just IA32ABIPlugin. The difference between the two is only >> that NewsqueakIA32ABIPlugin implements immutability checks. >> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Laurent >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >>> >> > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog doesn't load anymore in PharoCore1.3 because of the removal of AbstractLauncher

by Marcus Denker

On May 12, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > sooo.. opinions? > We can add the class the the compatiblity package... > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If Cog really needs it we should create a separate repostiroy like PharoCogSupport and put the class there and add it as a dependency of Cog in ConfigurationOfCog. > Another hacky way is to add a #preLoadDoit: in ConfigurationOfCog that does a #compile: of AbstractLauncher > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > AbstractLauncher was removed in: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4002 > > Cog has a subclass from AbstractLauncher called CommandLineLauncher, hence, it cannot be loaded anymore > > CommandLineLauncher has no class comment and no sender. So I have no idea what it does, nor if it can be removed from cog, nor how to solve this problem in Pharo. > > Cheers > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "StÃ©phane" == StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: >> Since OpenQwak is GPLv2, code from that distro is not allowed. However, >> some of the upstream components are released under a compatible license, >> and could be included if offered. StÃ©phane> what is an upstream component? There were some pieces (like Tweak) available under a friendly license that were incorporated into OpenQwak and then modified. The original upstream distro is still available under the friendy license, but the version *as it exists* in OpenQwak is GPLv2, and cannot be used. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Mailinglist archive not working

by Marcus Denker

On May 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Looks like the mail archive is not working: > > See http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-May/date.html > last mail is from May 10 13:44:40 > > Anyone able to tell the inria admins... > > Yes... not only the archive, at least me, I did not get any mail for 2 days... But this has now been fixed. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?

by Marcus Denker

On May 12, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "StÃ©phane" == StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: > > StÃ©phane> what is the position of squeak regarding the inclusion of qwak > StÃ©phane> code in squeak? > > GPL code is incompatible with Squeak core, because it taints the entire > distribution. > Good! Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] legal counsel for pharo?

by Marcus Denker

On May 12, 2011, at 3:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Randall > > what is the position of squeak regarding the inclusion of qwak code in squeak? My position is to *not* let any GPLed code in Pharo. Because this means that everything is GPL, and that people therefore will have problems using it to make money in many cases. (and no, the GPL does not help to get contributions back: I *do not want* contributions of code where the author is forced to release code...) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 12, 2011