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Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

by Esteban Lorenzano

server is there. but all members are âbannedâ. Situation will revert in a couple of hours, @Kilon is taking care about it. we are very sorry for this disturbance in the force :) Esteban > On 10 Mar 2018, at 10:26, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > But, where is the server? > > Phil > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > That's my bad, apparently when I transferred ownership to Esteban I forgot to remove the moderation role from my bot Lighthouse. > > I also made the stupid mistake to post security tokens inside the source of the bot I published in github. > > Unfortunately I cannot remove the bot because moderation roles can only be removed by the owner which in this case is Esteban. > > I have removed all the webhooks from our server , you guys will have to recreate them because obviously their credential are now exposed and have to be changed and Esteban will have to ban the bot and remove its application authorisation. > > My apologies for this very stupid mistake, completely my fault , I thought I had added in my gitignore the module that contained the security credentials so it would not be included in the git repo , apparently I did not. > > I always hated web dev with a vengeance , now I have one more reason to do so :D > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:09 AM ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com <mailto:bera.clement@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yeah it's been down for already 11 hours or something like that. > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com <mailto:sean@clipperadams.com>> wrote: > Vincent.Blondeau wrote > > https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn <https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn> > > I confirm this doesn't work. Clicking Accept leads to an error. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html> > > > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Pharo consortium engineer > https://clementbera.github.io/ <https://clementbera.github.io/> > https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ <https://clementbera.wordpress.com/> > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650Â <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve d <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>'Ascq <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

by phil＠highoctane.be

But, where is the server? Phil On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's my bad, apparently when I transferred ownership to Esteban I forgot > to remove the moderation role from my bot Lighthouse. > > I also made the stupid mistake to post security tokens inside the source > of the bot I published in github. > > Unfortunately I cannot remove the bot because moderation roles can only be > removed by the owner which in this case is Esteban. > > I have removed all the webhooks from our server , you guys will have to > recreate them because obviously their credential are now exposed and have > to be changed and Esteban will have to ban the bot and remove its > application authorisation. > > My apologies for this very stupid mistake, completely my fault , I thought > I had added in my gitignore the module that contained the security > credentials so it would not be included in the git repo , apparently I did > not. > > I always hated web dev with a vengeance , now I have one more reason to do > so :D > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:09 AM ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yeah it's been down for already 11 hours or something like that. >> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Vincent.Blondeau wrote >>> > https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn >>> >>> I confirm this doesn't work. Clicking Accept leads to an error. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Cheers, >>> Sean >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837. >>> html >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra >> Pharo consortium engineer >> https://clementbera.github.io/ >> https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ >> BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve >> d >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >> 'Ascq >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >> >

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

by Dimitris Chloupis

That's my bad, apparently when I transferred ownership to Esteban I forgot to remove the moderation role from my bot Lighthouse. I also made the stupid mistake to post security tokens inside the source of the bot I published in github. Unfortunately I cannot remove the bot because moderation roles can only be removed by the owner which in this case is Esteban. I have removed all the webhooks from our server , you guys will have to recreate them because obviously their credential are now exposed and have to be changed and Esteban will have to ban the bot and remove its application authorisation. My apologies for this very stupid mistake, completely my fault , I thought I had added in my gitignore the module that contained the security credentials so it would not be included in the git repo , apparently I did not. I always hated web dev with a vengeance , now I have one more reason to do so :D On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:09 AM ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah it's been down for already 11 hours or something like that. > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > wrote: > >> Vincent.Blondeau wrote >> > https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn >> >> I confirm this doesn't work. Clicking Accept leads to an error. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html >> >> > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Pharo consortium engineer > https://clementbera.github.io/ > https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve > d > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> > 'Ascq > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] renaming Matrix to 2dArray

by phil＠highoctane.be

I think that if we want a "proper" matrix, it should live in PolyMath, and there is a PMMatrix. Then there is also DataFrame. And then get a prefix to its name, like we have a RTTabTable in Roassal. http://agilevisualization.com/AgileVisualization/QuickStart/0101-QuickStart… We also have Tabular with TabularWorksheet for XLSX work. There is code in GT that helps in showing a matrix in an inspector, there is example code like https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2018/02/26/tabular-debugging-view-in-bloc/ and I have a bunch of things that are using Matrix. We discussed this matter in the past already. http://forum.world.st/PMMatrix-vs-Matrix-td4943819.html And then it was "Grid", or "Table". Please leave that Matrix class alone, it works and frankly is there since long enough so that people have code using it and know what to expect. Phil On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 8:49 AM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > long time ago I renamed 2DArray as Matrix. Now our Matrix class does >> not support any of the Matrix operations > > > Some Matrix operations are implemented: > > - I see in Matrix class #+*, #preMultiplyByArray:, #preMultiplyByMatrix: > which are Matrix specific arithmetic (Multiplication of Matrix by Vector > and Matrix) in *Collections-arithmetic protocol. Does that mean these API > will be removed while renaming ? They don't seem to be used anyway. > > - There is also #transposed, which is the transposed matrix operator > implemented only for square matrix or an assertion failure is raised. This > method is used, it makes sense to have the transposed operator in Matrix > class but I don't think it would mean anything on a Array2D class (What > does it mean to transpose a 2D Array ?). Is this API going to be removed > and all users patched ? Or maybe we rename it to #squareMatrixTransposed in > Array2D expressing the intent (interpret the Array2D as a Matrix, works > only on square Matrix). What do you think ? > > I think it makes sense to rename from Matrix to Array2D only if we patch > first these matrix specific APIs. There are not many we can do it. > > Regards, > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo < > emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I thought you couldn't name classes starting with numbers. >> >> If that wasn't the case I think Array2D would be a better option. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2018-03-09 17:46 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >> > Hi >> > >> > long time ago I renamed 2DArray as Matrix. Now our Matrix class does >> > not support any of the Matrix operations, so I was thinking that to >> > avoid confusion (people should use polymath) we should rename it back >> > to 2DArray. >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Stef >> > >> >> > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Pharo consortium engineer > https://clementbera.github.io/ > https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve > d > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> > 'Ascq > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] renaming Matrix to 2dArray

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hi, long time ago I renamed 2DArray as Matrix. Now our Matrix class does > not support any of the Matrix operations Some Matrix operations are implemented: - I see in Matrix class #+*, #preMultiplyByArray:, #preMultiplyByMatrix: which are Matrix specific arithmetic (Multiplication of Matrix by Vector and Matrix) in *Collections-arithmetic protocol. Does that mean these API will be removed while renaming ? They don't seem to be used anyway. - There is also #transposed, which is the transposed matrix operator implemented only for square matrix or an assertion failure is raised. This method is used, it makes sense to have the transposed operator in Matrix class but I don't think it would mean anything on a Array2D class (What does it mean to transpose a 2D Array ?). Is this API going to be removed and all users patched ? Or maybe we rename it to #squareMatrixTransposed in Array2D expressing the intent (interpret the Array2D as a Matrix, works only on square Matrix). What do you think ? I think it makes sense to rename from Matrix to Array2D only if we patch first these matrix specific APIs. There are not many we can do it. Regards, On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I thought you couldn't name classes starting with numbers. > > If that wasn't the case I think Array2D would be a better option. > > Regards, > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2018-03-09 17:46 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi > > > > long time ago I renamed 2DArray as Matrix. Now our Matrix class does > > not support any of the Matrix operations, so I was thinking that to > > avoid confusion (people should use polymath) we should rename it back > > to 2DArray. > > What do you think? > > > > Stef > > > > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.github.io/ https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Yeah it's been down for already 11 hours or something like that. On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Vincent.Blondeau wrote > > https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn > > I confirm this doesn't work. Clicking Accept leads to an error. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html > > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.github.io/ https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] renaming Matrix to 2dArray

by Esteban A. Maringolo

I thought you couldn't name classes starting with numbers. If that wasn't the case I think Array2D would be a better option. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo Esteban A. Maringolo 2018-03-09 17:46 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > Hi > > long time ago I renamed 2DArray as Matrix. Now our Matrix class does > not support any of the Matrix operations, so I was thinking that to > avoid confusion (people should use polymath) we should rename it back > to 2DArray. > What do you think? > > Stef >

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Discord server vanished!

by Sean P. DeNigris

Vincent.Blondeau wrote > https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn I confirm this doesn't work. Clicking Accept leads to an error. ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

March 10, 2018

Discord server vanished!

by Vincent.Blondeau＠lamresearch.com

Hi, It seems that the Pharo discord server is not available anymore at this address provided on Pharo.org: https://discordapp.com/invite/Sj2rhxn And it vanished from the discord app... Where did it go? Thanks, Vincent

March 9, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Experiment: New Download page based on Pharo Launcher

by Torsten Bergmann

Additional portable versions would be nice too (based on a simple ZIP) instead of only the installable apps

March 9, 2018