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Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

by GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio

Thanks. If there are more ideas and I can encode (and test:), I will send them to you. 2011/5/28 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > > > > 2011/5/28 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> > >> Well, I coded 2 test, that's something: ( >> Laurent, at this point both my changes in your work must be something >> heavy to do, but the less load my package in a clean image to see the idea >> of keeping the UserTiles:) >> http://www.squeaksource.com/TilingWindowManager/TWM-GastonDallOglio.14.mcz >> >> > OK GastÃ³n I see the functionality. > > I will merge and refactor as I have some ideas on it (maybe tomorrow I will > be busy today). > > Thanks a lot for the tests !!! > > Laurent. > > > > >> Thanks ;) >> >> >> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >>> >>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> version 11: Added screenshot of bounding of visible windows >>>> >>>> test comming soon, give some time :) >>>> >>> >>> >>> No problem. Tell me when it's ready I will check & merge. >>> >>> Laurent. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Ohhh look good and simple! I would suggest you use these renovated, but >>>>> it's too late, and also do not know if there may be some licensing issue: >>>>> http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png >>>>> >>>>> A question, the correct way to load external icons in the image is used >>>>> ThemeIcons>>createIconMethodsFromDirectory: directory? that particular class >>>>> should be loaded? PharoUIThemeIcons or TWMBar, for example? in class o >>>>> instance side? >>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Now with icons, and thanks Patrick for the icon generation idea :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now added top window placement Ã la OptimizeLayout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Need to find nice icons. Someone ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Now loads in PharoCore >>>>>>>>> - more tests >>>>>>>>> - fill all space even if number of windows is not square. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GastÃ²n, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded the new version - thanks a lot for >>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing, it brings fun :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some comment: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - tiling browsers don't work any more with >>>>>>>>>>>>> OB, WMWithAnOBBrowserAndDockingBarsTest does not create an OBBrowser anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>> but a Browser >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In 1.3 core there's not OBBrowser, then, when trying to modify a >>>>>>>>>>>> method with reference to OBBrowser obtained an error. So I remove their >>>>>>>>>>>> references. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I see. I will refactor this so it will be compatible with Core >>>>>>>>>>> and still work with OB (quite easy). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This would be great, because now I think, in a core are never the >>>>>>>>>> most useful tools (Seaside control panel, memory monitor), and TWM should >>>>>>>>>> know about them in some way (you apply a pattern to solve this problem?). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - you've changed TilingWM>>visibleWindows to TilingWM>>windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The "visible" was not innocent, because tileVisibleWindows cares about >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows that are not minimized. On the other side, tileWorkspaces tile all >>>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces, minimized or not. So I think in final we may have: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWindows >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWindows (maybe #tileAllWindows is a better name) >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWorkspaces / #tileAllWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, see you the comment in de versiÃ³n 5 of de package, "Now >>>>>>>>>>>> all botton tile visibles windows.". I think it's better to just get >>>>>>>>>>>> organized visible windows, even when done on a particular kind (such as >>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces). For this is that the word was redundant now visible. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will think about this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When you have many windows, minimizing them is the way to let them >>>>>>>>>> "suspended", therefore I think it should be organized only visibles. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - I will add tests to TWMBar finally as it seems to grow >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I want TilingWM to be 100% test coverage >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, give me some time for learn about this... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ask. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Balloon and spaces for TWMBar is a good idea - we need to make >>>>>>>>>>>>> this work effectively :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Great to have all the buttons per type of applications ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it is still very rudimentary way to filter the windows, but it >>>>>>>>>>>> was helpful to learn about the hierarchy of classes 1.3, in regard to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Models for example. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Indeed I've disable TaskBarMorph in my image as it's useless now >>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be honest, this is my first serious development in Squeak / >>>>>>>>>> Pharo, so it gives me much encouragement your comment, there is still much >>>>>>>>>> to learn and improve, but it is very encouraging to devote time to something >>>>>>>>>> that might be useful to others. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've merge some of your changes in TWM-LaurentLaffont.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excelent! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets it free :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it around you wish in the screen, similar to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DockingBarMorph>>beFloating. I attach screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent, I improved (or not? :)) your work, if you think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is bad for TWM simply undo it ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to play. Just try to write tests for TilingWM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok. I load a new version to ss. Now teh button tile visible >>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows only. I fixed the test... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For TWMBar I'm not sure this will be a final GUI. Ideally all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be keyboard driven, I have to play with KeyMapping. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the UI theme Patrick has cleaned fits better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with TilingWM: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To try it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'PBASandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'PBSandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> StandardUITheme beCurrent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I try, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, could you push this with a nice package name ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there's a button to open the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how can I get a browser? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once this is one is created I get the browser full screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather small browsers :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, but because browsers waste space IMHO. Maybe we could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of windows borders when tiled. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > TWMBar new open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The real manager is TilingWM. Try: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileVisibleWindows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileBrowsers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileWorkspaces. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent I like the energy of the project. For me this is the exact example of what we should be able to enable. Innovation :) Stef On May 28, 2011, at 8:39 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > continue improving it and we should integrate it :) > > > any ideas to integrate somehow with the multiple worlds? > > > I've prepared it to integrate multiple worlds from the start :) So yes I want multiple world. > > > > Laurent > > > > > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always welcome ! > > don't care :) > > > > > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > > > >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

by laurent laffont

2011/5/28 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> > Well, I coded 2 test, that's something: ( > Laurent, at this point both my changes in your work must be something heavy > to do, but the less load my package in a clean image to see the idea of > keeping the UserTiles:) > http://www.squeaksource.com/TilingWindowManager/TWM-GastonDallOglio.14.mcz > > OK GastÃ³n I see the functionality. I will merge and refactor as I have some ideas on it (maybe tomorrow I will be busy today). Thanks a lot for the tests !!! Laurent. > Thanks ;) > > > 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> >> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >> >>> version 11: Added screenshot of bounding of visible windows >>> >>> test comming soon, give some time :) >>> >> >> >> No problem. Tell me when it's ready I will check & merge. >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> Ohhh look good and simple! I would suggest you use these renovated, but >>>> it's too late, and also do not know if there may be some licensing issue: >>>> http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png >>>> >>>> A question, the correct way to load external icons in the image is used >>>> ThemeIcons>>createIconMethodsFromDirectory: directory? that particular class >>>> should be loaded? PharoUIThemeIcons or TWMBar, for example? in class o >>>> instance side? >>>> >>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Now with icons, and thanks Patrick for the icon generation idea :) >>>>> >>>>> Laurent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Now added top window placement Ã la OptimizeLayout. >>>>>> >>>>>> Need to find nice icons. Someone ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Now loads in PharoCore >>>>>>>> - more tests >>>>>>>> - fill all space even if number of windows is not square. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GastÃ²n, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded the new version - thanks a lot for contributing, >>>>>>>>>>>> it brings fun :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Some comment: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - tiling browsers don't work any more with >>>>>>>>>>>> OB, WMWithAnOBBrowserAndDockingBarsTest does not create an OBBrowser anymore >>>>>>>>>>>> but a Browser >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In 1.3 core there's not OBBrowser, then, when trying to modify a >>>>>>>>>>> method with reference to OBBrowser obtained an error. So I remove their >>>>>>>>>>> references. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I see. I will refactor this so it will be compatible with Core and >>>>>>>>>> still work with OB (quite easy). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This would be great, because now I think, in a core are never the >>>>>>>>> most useful tools (Seaside control panel, memory monitor), and TWM should >>>>>>>>> know about them in some way (you apply a pattern to solve this problem?). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - you've changed TilingWM>>visibleWindows to TilingWM>>windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> The "visible" was not innocent, because tileVisibleWindows cares about >>>>>>>>>>>> windows that are not minimized. On the other side, tileWorkspaces tile all >>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces, minimized or not. So I think in final we may have: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWindows >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWindows (maybe #tileAllWindows is a better name) >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWorkspaces / #tileAllWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>> ...... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please, see you the comment in de versiÃ³n 5 of de package, "Now >>>>>>>>>>> all botton tile visibles windows.". I think it's better to just get >>>>>>>>>>> organized visible windows, even when done on a particular kind (such as >>>>>>>>>>> workspaces). For this is that the word was redundant now visible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I will think about this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you have many windows, minimizing them is the way to let them >>>>>>>>> "suspended", therefore I think it should be organized only visibles. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I will add tests to TWMBar finally as it seems to grow >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - I want TilingWM to be 100% test coverage >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, give me some time for learn about this... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ask. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ok. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Balloon and spaces for TWMBar is a good idea - we need to make >>>>>>>>>>>> this work effectively :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Great to have all the buttons per type of applications ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it is still very rudimentary way to filter the windows, but it >>>>>>>>>>> was helpful to learn about the hierarchy of classes 1.3, in regard to the >>>>>>>>>>> Models for example. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed I've disable TaskBarMorph in my image as it's useless now >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll be honest, this is my first serious development in Squeak / >>>>>>>>> Pharo, so it gives me much encouragement your comment, there is still much >>>>>>>>> to learn and improve, but it is very encouraging to devote time to something >>>>>>>>> that might be useful to others. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've merge some of your changes in TWM-LaurentLaffont.5 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excelent! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it free :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it around you wish in the screen, similar to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DockingBarMorph>>beFloating. I attach screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent, I improved (or not? :)) your work, if you think that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bad for TWM simply undo it ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to play. Just try to write tests for TilingWM please >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ok. I load a new version to ss. Now teh button tile visible >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows only. I fixed the test... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For TWMBar I'm not sure this will be a final GUI. Ideally all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be keyboard driven, I have to play with KeyMapping. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the UI theme Patrick has cleaned fits better with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TilingWM: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To try it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'PBASandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'PBSandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> StandardUITheme beCurrent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I try, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, could you push this with a nice package name ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there's a button to open the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how can I get a browser? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once this is one is created I get the browser full screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather small browsers :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, but because browsers waste space IMHO. Maybe we could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of windows borders when tiled. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > TWMBar new open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The real manager is TilingWM. Try: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileVisibleWindows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileBrowsers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileWorkspaces. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

by laurent laffont

Thanks a lot Bernardo. Laurent. On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > TilingWM class>>numberOfLastUsedWindows was returning a boolean instead of > a number. therefore i submitted a fix with a small test > could you check it? > > the idea is awesome!![?] > > > 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> > >> Well, I coded 2 test, that's something: ( >> Laurent, at this point both my changes in your work must be something >> heavy to do, but the less load my package in a clean image to see the idea >> of keeping the UserTiles:) >> http://www.squeaksource.com/TilingWindowManager/TWM-GastonDallOglio.14.mcz >> >> Thanks ;) >> >> >> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >>> >>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> version 11: Added screenshot of bounding of visible windows >>>> >>>> test comming soon, give some time :) >>>> >>> >>> >>> No problem. Tell me when it's ready I will check & merge. >>> >>> Laurent. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Ohhh look good and simple! I would suggest you use these renovated, but >>>>> it's too late, and also do not know if there may be some licensing issue: >>>>> http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png >>>>> >>>>> A question, the correct way to load external icons in the image is used >>>>> ThemeIcons>>createIconMethodsFromDirectory: directory? that particular class >>>>> should be loaded? PharoUIThemeIcons or TWMBar, for example? in class o >>>>> instance side? >>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Now with icons, and thanks Patrick for the icon generation idea :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now added top window placement Ã la OptimizeLayout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Need to find nice icons. Someone ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Now loads in PharoCore >>>>>>>>> - more tests >>>>>>>>> - fill all space even if number of windows is not square. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GastÃ²n, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded the new version - thanks a lot for >>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing, it brings fun :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some comment: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - tiling browsers don't work any more with >>>>>>>>>>>>> OB, WMWithAnOBBrowserAndDockingBarsTest does not create an OBBrowser anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>> but a Browser >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In 1.3 core there's not OBBrowser, then, when trying to modify a >>>>>>>>>>>> method with reference to OBBrowser obtained an error. So I remove their >>>>>>>>>>>> references. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I see. I will refactor this so it will be compatible with Core >>>>>>>>>>> and still work with OB (quite easy). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This would be great, because now I think, in a core are never the >>>>>>>>>> most useful tools (Seaside control panel, memory monitor), and TWM should >>>>>>>>>> know about them in some way (you apply a pattern to solve this problem?). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - you've changed TilingWM>>visibleWindows to TilingWM>>windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The "visible" was not innocent, because tileVisibleWindows cares about >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows that are not minimized. On the other side, tileWorkspaces tile all >>>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces, minimized or not. So I think in final we may have: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWindows >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWindows (maybe #tileAllWindows is a better name) >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWorkspaces / #tileAllWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, see you the comment in de versiÃ³n 5 of de package, "Now >>>>>>>>>>>> all botton tile visibles windows.". I think it's better to just get >>>>>>>>>>>> organized visible windows, even when done on a particular kind (such as >>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces). For this is that the word was redundant now visible. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will think about this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When you have many windows, minimizing them is the way to let them >>>>>>>>>> "suspended", therefore I think it should be organized only visibles. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - I will add tests to TWMBar finally as it seems to grow >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I want TilingWM to be 100% test coverage >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, give me some time for learn about this... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ask. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Balloon and spaces for TWMBar is a good idea - we need to make >>>>>>>>>>>>> this work effectively :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Great to have all the buttons per type of applications ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it is still very rudimentary way to filter the windows, but it >>>>>>>>>>>> was helpful to learn about the hierarchy of classes 1.3, in regard to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Models for example. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Indeed I've disable TaskBarMorph in my image as it's useless now >>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be honest, this is my first serious development in Squeak / >>>>>>>>>> Pharo, so it gives me much encouragement your comment, there is still much >>>>>>>>>> to learn and improve, but it is very encouraging to devote time to something >>>>>>>>>> that might be useful to others. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've merge some of your changes in TWM-LaurentLaffont.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excelent! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets it free :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it around you wish in the screen, similar to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DockingBarMorph>>beFloating. I attach screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent, I improved (or not? :)) your work, if you think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is bad for TWM simply undo it ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to play. Just try to write tests for TilingWM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok. I load a new version to ss. Now teh button tile visible >>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows only. I fixed the test... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For TWMBar I'm not sure this will be a final GUI. Ideally all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be keyboard driven, I have to play with KeyMapping. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the UI theme Patrick has cleaned fits better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with TilingWM: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To try it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'PBASandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'PBSandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> StandardUITheme beCurrent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I try, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, could you push this with a nice package name ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there's a button to open the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how can I get a browser? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once this is one is created I get the browser full screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather small browsers :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, but because browsers waste space IMHO. Maybe we could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of windows borders when tiled. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > TWMBar new open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The real manager is TilingWM. Try: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileVisibleWindows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileBrowsers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileWorkspaces. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by laurent laffont

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > cool > > a suggestion when you iconize the windows why not put them as "menu" of the > main entries in the bar. > This is an idea, if someone can do it to help :) Laurent. > > Stef > > On May 28, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:14 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always > welcome ! > > > > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > > > > > <official-seal-of-awesomeness-3787_preview.png> > > >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by laurent laffont

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > continue improving it and we should integrate it :) > > > any ideas to integrate somehow with the multiple worlds? > > I've prepared it to integrate multiple worlds from the start :) So yes I want multiple world. Laurent > > > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always > welcome ! > > don't care :) > > > > > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > > > >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

continue improving it and we should integrate it :) any ideas to integrate somehow with the multiple worlds? > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always welcome ! don't care :) > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

cool a suggestion when you iconize the windows why not put them as "menu" of the main entries in the bar. Stef On May 28, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:14 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always welcome ! > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > > <official-seal-of-awesomeness-3787_preview.png>

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Screencast on Tiling Window Manager

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:14 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Here: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html > > Not really good, awful english (I'm tired :) but feedback is always > welcome ! > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > >

May 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Hi, TilingWM class>>numberOfLastUsedWindows was returning a boolean instead of a number. therefore i submitted a fix with a small test could you check it? the idea is awesome!![?] 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> > Well, I coded 2 test, that's something: ( > Laurent, at this point both my changes in your work must be something heavy > to do, but the less load my package in a clean image to see the idea of > keeping the UserTiles:) > http://www.squeaksource.com/TilingWindowManager/TWM-GastonDallOglio.14.mcz > > Thanks ;) > > > 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> >> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >> >>> version 11: Added screenshot of bounding of visible windows >>> >>> test comming soon, give some time :) >>> >> >> >> No problem. Tell me when it's ready I will check & merge. >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> 2011/5/27 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> Ohhh look good and simple! I would suggest you use these renovated, but >>>> it's too late, and also do not know if there may be some licensing issue: >>>> http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png >>>> >>>> A question, the correct way to load external icons in the image is used >>>> ThemeIcons>>createIconMethodsFromDirectory: directory? that particular class >>>> should be loaded? PharoUIThemeIcons or TWMBar, for example? in class o >>>> instance side? >>>> >>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Now with icons, and thanks Patrick for the icon generation idea :) >>>>> >>>>> Laurent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Now added top window placement Ã la OptimizeLayout. >>>>>> >>>>>> Need to find nice icons. Someone ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Now loads in PharoCore >>>>>>>> - more tests >>>>>>>> - fill all space even if number of windows is not square. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GastÃ²n, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded the new version - thanks a lot for contributing, >>>>>>>>>>>> it brings fun :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Some comment: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - tiling browsers don't work any more with >>>>>>>>>>>> OB, WMWithAnOBBrowserAndDockingBarsTest does not create an OBBrowser anymore >>>>>>>>>>>> but a Browser >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In 1.3 core there's not OBBrowser, then, when trying to modify a >>>>>>>>>>> method with reference to OBBrowser obtained an error. So I remove their >>>>>>>>>>> references. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I see. I will refactor this so it will be compatible with Core and >>>>>>>>>> still work with OB (quite easy). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This would be great, because now I think, in a core are never the >>>>>>>>> most useful tools (Seaside control panel, memory monitor), and TWM should >>>>>>>>> know about them in some way (you apply a pattern to solve this problem?). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - you've changed TilingWM>>visibleWindows to TilingWM>>windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> The "visible" was not innocent, because tileVisibleWindows cares about >>>>>>>>>>>> windows that are not minimized. On the other side, tileWorkspaces tile all >>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces, minimized or not. So I think in final we may have: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWindows >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWindows (maybe #tileAllWindows is a better name) >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileVisibleWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>> #tileWorkspaces / #tileAllWorkspaces >>>>>>>>>>>> ...... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please, see you the comment in de versiÃ³n 5 of de package, "Now >>>>>>>>>>> all botton tile visibles windows.". I think it's better to just get >>>>>>>>>>> organized visible windows, even when done on a particular kind (such as >>>>>>>>>>> workspaces). For this is that the word was redundant now visible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I will think about this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you have many windows, minimizing them is the way to let them >>>>>>>>> "suspended", therefore I think it should be organized only visibles. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I will add tests to TWMBar finally as it seems to grow >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - I want TilingWM to be 100% test coverage >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, give me some time for learn about this... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ask. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ok. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Balloon and spaces for TWMBar is a good idea - we need to make >>>>>>>>>>>> this work effectively :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Great to have all the buttons per type of applications ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it is still very rudimentary way to filter the windows, but it >>>>>>>>>>> was helpful to learn about the hierarchy of classes 1.3, in regard to the >>>>>>>>>>> Models for example. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed I've disable TaskBarMorph in my image as it's useless now >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll be honest, this is my first serious development in Squeak / >>>>>>>>> Pharo, so it gives me much encouragement your comment, there is still much >>>>>>>>> to learn and improve, but it is very encouraging to devote time to something >>>>>>>>> that might be useful to others. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've merge some of your changes in TWM-LaurentLaffont.5 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/26 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excelent! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it free :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it around you wish in the screen, similar to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DockingBarMorph>>beFloating. I attach screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent, I improved (or not? :)) your work, if you think that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bad for TWM simply undo it ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to play. Just try to write tests for TilingWM please >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ok. I load a new version to ss. Now teh button tile visible >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows only. I fixed the test... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For TWMBar I'm not sure this will be a final GUI. Ideally all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be keyboard driven, I have to play with KeyMapping. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the UI theme Patrick has cleaned fits better with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TilingWM: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To try it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'PBASandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'PBSandbox'; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> load. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> StandardUITheme beCurrent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See screenshot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I try, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, could you push this with a nice package name ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/25 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there's a button to open the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how can I get a browser? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once this is one is created I get the browser full screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather small browsers :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, but because browsers waste space IMHO. Maybe we could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of windows borders when tiled. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > TWMBar new open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The real manager is TilingWM. Try: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileVisibleWindows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileBrowsers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (TilingWM forWorld: World) tileWorkspaces. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 28, 2011