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Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 08 Jul 2011, at 21:29, Camillo Bruni wrote: > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ Yes this is very cool! Is it easy to install this in one's own image ? Sven

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Tudor Girba

Great job. It looks nice indeed: - I like the expanding of methods - I like the section expanders (from Instance / Class Methods Summary) - The search in the frames from the left is quite snappy - The subclassing showing / hiding - The inheritance diagram - I like the full urls like: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/doc/class/BlockCannotReturn - The look is clean While playing with it, I also found a couple of issues: - sometimes it freezes in the sense that I select a class and nothing happens on the right frame. - I like the full urls, but, the problem is that they are hidden in the frame, so it's difficult to spot them - Some links in the Overview section are broken. It looks like there is some sort of pattern matching and there are false positives. For example, on the above mentioned page, there are links to "as:" and "ensure:" - The preview that pops out when hovering over methods is too slow and it only shows a white box for a long time. I would disable it for now - The inheritance diagram is interesting, but I do not exactly understand what it shows. For example, I selected Error and the diagram is like the one in the attachment. It looks like the current class, is displayed with more methods, but I do not understand how the rest of the classes were selected. Cheers, Doru On 9 Jul 2011, at 13:30, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > very cool > On 8 juil. 2011, at 21:29, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: >> >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ >> >> Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) >> >> cami > > Noury Bouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > -- > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > -5th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies > http://www.fast.org.ar > November 3th - 5th, 2011 Universidad Nacional de Quilmes (Argentina) > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "When people care, great things can happen."

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Noury Bouraqadi

very cool On 8 juil. 2011, at 21:29, Camillo Bruni wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami Noury Bouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France -5th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies http://www.fast.org.ar November 3th - 5th, 2011 Universidad Nacional de Quilmes (Argentina)

July 9, 2011

[Pharo-project] [UPDATED] Call for papers: SMALLTALKS 2011

by jannik.laval

UPDATED: Special Issue Publication The best papers will be invited to submit an extended version of their work in a special issue of the International Journal SCP (Science of Computer Programming), http://ees.elsevier.com/scico/default.asp. > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > SMALLTALKS 2011 > 5th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies > Research Track: Call for Papers > November 3th - 5th, 2011 > > Important dates: > > Submission (Hard Deadline): August 22th, 2011 (Argentinian time: UTC/GMT -3 hours). > Notification of acceptance: September 23th, 2011. > Camera Ready Submission: October 7th, 2011. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Conference Location: Universidad Nacional de Quilmes (Argentina) > > The Smalltalks series of conferences (www.fast.org.ar) is a lively forum on Smalltalk-based software > technologies that brings together more than 200 people from both academia and industry for a period of three days. > > Past editions of Smalltalks have included many high-quality presentations from industry and research. > These contributions have shown interesting applications of Smalltalk, advances in the Smalltalk language, didactic uses of Smalltalk and so on. > > Similar to last year, Smalltalks 2011 will include a dedicated research track. > We welcome submissions to this research track presenting original scientific contributions to, or using, Smalltalk in general. > > Topics of interest include, but are not restricted to: > > - Aspects, Aspect Languages and Applications. > - Ambient Intelligence, Ubiquitous / Pervasive Computing and Embedded Systems. > - Compilation Technology, Optimization, Virtual Machines. > - Educational Material. > - Language Engineering, Extensions. > - Model Driven Engineering / Development. > - Meta-Modeling, Reflection and Meta-programming. > - Programming in the Large, Design, Architectures and Components. > - Programming Environments, Browsers, User Interfaces, UI Frameworks. > - Source-code analysis and manipulation (Static analysis, refactoring, type inference, metrics). > - Team Management. > - Testing, Extreme Programming / Practices. > - Web Services, Internet Applications, Event-driven Programming. > - Experience Reports. > > Important dates: > > Submission (Hard Deadline): August 22th, 2011 (Argentinian time: UTC/GMT -3 hours). > Notification of acceptance: September 23th, 2011. > Camera Ready Submission: October 7th, 2011. > > Papers: > > Papers should be written in English, in PDF-format and should not exceed 15 > pages (including references and figures), using the Elsevier journal format. > > Templates for LaTeX formats can be found at > http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/elsart > > Papers must be submitted through the EasyChair submission web site at > https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=smalltalks2011 > > The accepted papers will be digitally available on the conference > website. We are currently negotiating a special edition of a journal for which the best papers will get invited. > > Papers submitted must not have been previously published and must not be > under review for publication elsewhere. Papers must strictly adhere to > submission guidelines. If you have questions, please send an e-mail to > Jannik Laval and Andy Kellens to smalltalks2011-chair(a)fast.org.ar. Special Issue Publication -------------------------- The best papers will be invited to submit an extended version of their work in a special issue of the International Journal SCP (Science of Computer Programming), http://ees.elsevier.com/scico/default.asp. > > Program Committee > -------------------------- > - Gonzalo Zabala (Universidad Abierta Interamericana, Argentina) > - Hernan Wilkinson (Universidad de Buenos Aires, Argentina) > - Serge Stinckwich (Institut de recherche pour le developppement, France) > - Mircea Lungu (University of Bern, Switzerland) > - Tudor Girba (Sw-eng. Software Engineering GmbH, Switzerland) > - Johan Fabry (DCC, Universidad de Chile, Chile) > - Luc Fabresse (Ecole des Mines Douai, France) > - Marcus Denker (INRIA Lille, France) > - Coen De Roover (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) > - Damien Cassou (Hasso-Plattner-Institut, Potsdam, Germany) > - Gilad Bracha (SAP Labs, Palo Alto, USA) > - Noury Bouraqadi (Ecole des Mines Douai, France) > - Alexandre Bergel (DCC, Universidad de Chile, Chile) > - Gabriela Arevalo (Universidad Nacional de Quilmes, Argentina) > > Program Chairs > -------------------- > Andy Kellens (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) > Jannik Laval (INRIA Lille/LABRI Bordeaux, France) --- Dr. Jannik Laval Rmod Team - INRIA Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://rmod.lille.inria.fr ---

July 9, 2011

[Pharo-project] About marketing and exchange between companies

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I was discussing with Sven and I think that we could improve two things: - better marketing: T3 Easy is the example of Pharo on the server! We should add this to our success story web page T3 Easy is our new entry level track & trace product, an HTML5 web app (using client side HTML+Javascript+CSS) on top of a REST server written in Pharo Smalltalk. It consists of 4 stateless Pharo Cog VM's running behind an Apache load balancer. The server uses Zinc HTTP Components, both for its server part, as well as for clients talking to other systems behind the scenes. Even the Open Street Map tile serving, which is pushing out many megabytes, is currently going through this server. Here is a live demo URL in case your are curious: http://easy.t3-platform.net?t=livedemo - More exchanges between companies building on top of pharo. Sven showed us its automatic deployement infrastructure (using monit) and the automatic update and it was really what you want. Four server automatically restarting and ... So I would like to urge you companies guys to create a pool of knowledge and recipe around pharo. If you have docs/scripts I can put them in shape for a deployment chapter Stef

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [TODO 1.3] Last items to be done this week...

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> yes, that would be very useful :) >> Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it. > > > Excellent > I will try it. Should I take it from jenkins? > Hudson: https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/ in particular: https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Cog-Mac-Cocoa/ https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/StackVM-Mac-Cocoa/ We need to move the rest that is on Hudson to Jenkins, but this takes a while as there are quite some projects to move. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [TODO 1.3] Last items to be done this week...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> yes, that would be very useful :) > Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it. Excellent I will try it. Should I take it from jenkins? Stef > > El 08/07/2011, a las 11:14a.m., StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > >> Hi esteban >> >> would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM? >> It will stress you but we will find bugs. >> For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4 >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) >>> >>> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will happen any time soon, sadly :( >>> >>> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least those I can see now): >>> >>> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) >>> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without them, but it will be nice :) >>> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. >>> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, now) :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribiÃ³: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very strange. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly out of confusion...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which? >>>>>> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we >>>>>> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >>>> >>>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >>>> >>>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> best, >>>> Eliot >>>> >>> >> >> > >

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

do you have an idea why class Point is not found? May showing all the inherited methods should be optional Stef On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks a lot!!!! On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Max Leske

Impressive! Thumbs up! On 08.07.2011, at 23:20, Bernhard Pieber wrote: > Looks great! > > Cheers, > Bernhard > > Am 08.07.2011 um 21:29 schrieb Camillo Bruni: > >> hi all, >> >> damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: >> >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ >> >> Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) >> >> cami > >

July 9, 2011