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Re: [Pharo-project] Questions

by Ricardo Moran

Hi Kirk, I can't really answer your questions but I can say a word about the OpenCV issue: you'll probably need to write a FFI binding. See for example: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2426. I started writing one for OpenCV a few years ago when I was just learning smalltalk, but I dropped the project without making much progress. I can send you what I did if you're interested (and if I find the code), it could be a useful starting point I guess... Cheers, Richo On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Overcomer Man <overcomer.man(a)gmail.com>wrote: > What is the best way to include C++ projects like: > 1) openCV > 2) an OCR > 3) CMU Sphinx <http://cmusphinx.org/> > 4) AutoHotkey > 5) a screen capture > > and how does one figure out how to locate documentation on existing tools > like: > 1) Audio Input and manipulation by FFT for audio object recognition > 2) Video input and graphic object recognition > 3) Picture input and graphic object recognition > > Is there an application guide? Many project packages seem harder to figure > out than classes like Dictionary and OrderedCollection for some reason. Any > suggestions? Thank you. > > Sincerely, > Kirk Fraser > Clatskanie, OR > USA >

Aug. 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] Questions

by Overcomer Man

What is the best way to include C++ projects like: 1) openCV 2) an OCR 3) CMU Sphinx <http://cmusphinx.org/> 4) AutoHotkey 5) a screen capture and how does one figure out how to locate documentation on existing tools like: 1) Audio Input and manipulation by FFT for audio object recognition 2) Video input and graphic object recognition 3) Picture input and graphic object recognition Is there an application guide? Many project packages seem harder to figure out than classes like Dictionary and OrderedCollection for some reason. Any suggestions? Thank you. Sincerely, Kirk Fraser Clatskanie, OR USA

Aug. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Debug it from browser, menu consistency, merged Inspector

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just noticed that there is no 'Debug it' in browser's right-click > menu, but it is on Workspace. It would be nice to be there too, and > there is a place for it. But not need to add Profile it and Watch it in > browser's one. Debug it is important for "through debugger" development > style .. :) open an issue and try to add it and send code. It should not be that difficult > Second usability suggestion: please put Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo section > consistently on the same place, or always on the top, or always > somewhere else. Not on the bottom as is in context menu in Workspace > while in browser it is on top. Same goes with DoIt/PrintIt/DebugIt block. ok open a bug entry > Third: how is the state with merging Inspector and Explorer? Wasn't > there already a nice tree-view Inspector in some older Pharo? NewInspector was an attempt, I personally added it in Pharo 1.1 or so but I finally could not use it at all. I was like finger cut with this tool. So another version will have to be done first. Stef > > Best regards > Janko > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 >

Aug. 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Coral status & directions (was: Re: about coral)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On 6 August 2011 14:36, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> What is the status of Coral? Is it usable? Thanks. > > The syntax / compiler extension works fine and should not require much changes. > > All examples work for me, but it still depends too much on what flavor > of the VM you have and is only tested on Mac. So, I'd say, it's > useable for early adopters :) > > What's currently problematic is properly starting the VM in headless > mode and passing it command-line arguments. This currently works with > the Cog Carbon VM, and it should work with the linux VMs as well. I > don't know about windows. > > I'd like to eliminate the generate-and-install-coral.sh step, or > generate a script that doesn't hardcode paths to the VM and to the > Coral image, or devise some way to install everything that makes it > more practicalâ¦ The problem is, different flavors of the VM don't > report the same think for the VM/image/current pathâ¦ > > There is a problem with OSProcess on the Cog Cocoa VM. > > I also need to check that the proper Filesystem package is installed, > because the current ConfigurationOfCoral predates Colin's big > refactoring. > > Now, for directions of improvement: > > I'm currently writing a (petit)parser for command-line arguments > inspired by http://rubydoc.info/gems/cri/2.0.2/frames (yup, Smalltalk > learns from Ruby, for once :) > This will make it easy to write Coral scripts with options, flags, > subcommands that respect well-known conventions for unix shell > commands, properly check argument formats, etc. Eventually this will > provide enough information to generate man pages, -h --help text, and > even completion functions for bash and zsh. cooooool I want to see that. I like your scripting and admin background this is definitively something I'm lacking and this is great that you push coral in that direction. > We're going to need some way to structure script code. I don't think > we want an include/require statement to write scripts in several > files, but there should be a way for a script to depend on code that > is not in the base Coral image. Maybe loading parcels? [Gofer new quiuriohkjhajksh lkjkljlk load] > The Console class provides basic access to ANSI escape sequences but > this could be refactored. This will be needed for the next stepsâ¦ > > â¦I want a text-mode inspector and debugger integrated in the REPL. one step at a time. Did you check the debugger model Glamour is "using" ? > I'm > jealous of Ruby having https://github.com/pry/pry#readme :) > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >

Aug. 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-coral] about coral

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> We want Coral to be loadable in Pharo core but not included by default at >> least for now. >> > > What is the status of Coral? Is it usable? Thanks. Normally it should :) Now I did not try it in the latest version of 1.3 and filesystem. This week we will have FS to pharo 1.4 > > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/about-coral-tp3723018p3723265.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Aug. 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Debug it from browser, menu consistency, merged Inspector

by Alexandre Bergel

+1 Le 6 aoÃ»t 2011 Ã 15:39, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> a Ã©crit : > Hi guys, > > I just noticed that there is no 'Debug it' in browser's right-click > menu, but it is on Workspace. It would be nice to be there too, and > there is a place for it. But not need to add Profile it and Watch it in > browser's one. Debug it is important for "through debugger" development > style .. :) > > Second usability suggestion: please put Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo section > consistently on the same place, or always on the top, or always > somewhere else. Not on the bottom as is in context menu in Workspace > while in browser it is on top. Same goes with DoIt/PrintIt/DebugIt block. > > Third: how is the state with merging Inspector and Explorer? Wasn't > there already a nice tree-view Inspector in some older Pharo? > > Best regards > Janko > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 >

Aug. 6, 2011

[Pharo-project] Debug it from browser, menu consistency, merged Inspector

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi guys, I just noticed that there is no 'Debug it' in browser's right-click menu, but it is on Workspace. It would be nice to be there too, and there is a place for it. But not need to add Profile it and Watch it in browser's one. Debug it is important for "through debugger" development style .. :) Second usability suggestion: please put Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo section consistently on the same place, or always on the top, or always somewhere else. Not on the bottom as is in context menu in Workspace while in browser it is on top. Same goes with DoIt/PrintIt/DebugIt block. Third: how is the state with merging Inspector and Explorer? Wasn't there already a nice tree-view Inspector in some older Pharo? Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

Aug. 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Preparing my presentation of NativeBoost

by Sean Allen

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Martin McClure <martin.mcclure(a)vmware.com>wrote: > On 08/05/2011 04:00 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> i'd like to know what you would like to know about things you don't >> know about NativeBoost :) >> because i don't know what would you like to know more: >> >> - more in-depth about an implementation details >> - more about examples and how to use it >> >> just thinking, what i should focus on. >> > > I know very little about NativeBoost. I'm very interested in its > implementation, but would like *some* examples of usage. > > Martin said what I was thinking. I'm more of a how was it done first sort.

Aug. 6, 2011

[Pharo-project] Coral status & directions (was: Re: about coral)

by Damien Pollet

On 6 August 2011 14:36, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > What is the status of Coral? Is it usable? Thanks. The syntax / compiler extension works fine and should not require much changes. All examples work for me, but it still depends too much on what flavor of the VM you have and is only tested on Mac. So, I'd say, it's useable for early adopters :) What's currently problematic is properly starting the VM in headless mode and passing it command-line arguments. This currently works with the Cog Carbon VM, and it should work with the linux VMs as well. I don't know about windows. I'd like to eliminate the generate-and-install-coral.sh step, or generate a script that doesn't hardcode paths to the VM and to the Coral image, or devise some way to install everything that makes it more practicalâ¦ The problem is, different flavors of the VM don't report the same think for the VM/image/current pathâ¦ There is a problem with OSProcess on the Cog Cocoa VM. I also need to check that the proper Filesystem package is installed, because the current ConfigurationOfCoral predates Colin's big refactoring. Now, for directions of improvement: I'm currently writing a (petit)parser for command-line arguments inspired by http://rubydoc.info/gems/cri/2.0.2/frames (yup, Smalltalk learns from Ruby, for once :) This will make it easy to write Coral scripts with options, flags, subcommands that respect well-known conventions for unix shell commands, properly check argument formats, etc. Eventually this will provide enough information to generate man pages, -h --help text, and even completion functions for bash and zsh. We're going to need some way to structure script code. I don't think we want an include/require statement to write scripts in several files, but there should be a way for a script to depend on code that is not in the base Coral image. Maybe loading parcels? The Console class provides basic access to ANSI escape sequences but this could be refactored. This will be needed for the next stepsâ¦ â¦I want a text-mode inspector and debugger integrated in the REPL. I'm jealous of Ruby having https://github.com/pry/pry#readme :) -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

Aug. 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to deprecate a Class?

by Noury Bouraqadi

I'd rather use trait. Note that in both cases, subclasses will be made deprecated too. Noury On 4 aoÃ»t 2011, at 10:17, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Why not make this class a factory in the interim ? > > DeprecatedClass class>>new > self deprecated: 'DeprecatedClass use BrandNewClass instead'. > ^BrandNewClass new > > 2011/8/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Chris Cunningham <cunningham.cb(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:21 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> The most important aspects is that there is not reference to it. >>>> and that if we replace it by something else, it works. >>>> After we can write in the comments in big that the class is deprecated. >>>> >>> >>> Could you (we) also deprecate all the methods in the class? Ideally >>> in some automated way, of course. >>> >> >> Or remove all methods and implement >> >> doesNotUnderstand: >> >> ^Error new signal: 'All mehtods of this class are deprecated, please use >> ....' >> >> >> hehheheh :) >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> > Noury Bouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France -5th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies http://www.fast.org.ar November 3th - 5th, 2011 Universidad Nacional de Quilmes (Argentina)

Aug. 6, 2011