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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Maybe another use would be to serialize a complete context when handling errors at runtime. Instead of having just a error.log/walkback.log/foo.errors file you could have the whole context. It's not like having the debugger right there when it happened, but it's closer to that. Regards, -- Esteban. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Fwd-Pharo-fuel-Two-nice-things-I-did-in-2-hours-with-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk tools transcript

by Nicolas Cellier

2011/8/19 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 19 August 2011 11:41, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Igor changed some uses of "Transcript" to "Smalltalk tools >>> transcript". Of course it is not bad idea however it has some >>> unwelcome consequences - mainly it cannot work on images that have no >>> tools and Pharo Kernel and most of derived images have no ToolRegistry >>> at all. Currently it breaks Pharo Kernel job on CI server. >>> >>> Here are affected methods: >>> >>> Object>>crLog: {logging} >>> Object>>log: {logging} >>> Object>>logCr: {logging} >>> Object>>logCrTab: {logging} >>> >>> Of course the simplest way how to fix that is revert previous versions >>> of this methods. However we may use some more general solution where >>> ToolRegistry will be part of the kernel but then we will have to solve >>> questions what tools are default, what to do if the tool class is >>> missing etc. >>> >> >> Is 'Smalltalk' global name part of kernel? >> If so, then i think SmalltalkImage should be too and ToolRegistry. >> >> Tool registry is just a registry. It doesn't imposing the existance of >> one or another tool. >> If tool with given name is missing, then attempt to use it will lead for error. >> > > The question why to have registry for something what is not necessary. > Some applications may Â want to remove tools from the image so to place > tools support to the kernel is a regression. The only tool that is > required for the Kernel now is Transcript for some Compiler messages > etc. I think that there is one much better solution - to remove > Transcript dependency from the kernel and for such messages to use > UIManager (something like #log: or maybe better #logStream). > MorphicUIManager then will use Transcript. > > -- Pavel > > Then it could be (Smalltalk ui crLog:) instead of (Smalltalk tools transcript...) Or (UIManager deault crLog: ). The question is whether there is any interest in replacing a bunch of ThisOrThatManagerHandlerOrWhatever by a message send, and dispatch all these message to the System (Smalltalk). Nicolas

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien bug fix

by Luc Fabresse

yes but the Alien chapter is more or less empty currently. I started long time ago and I will have to write it once. Initially I wanted to described the most advanced FFI mechanism that exists for Pharo. I thought it was Alien because it supports callbacks. But after I learnt that FFI callout was better (BTW it seems that the NativeBoots callout is even better). But FFI did not support callback (it seems it is not the case anymore). But a good FFI should also supports re-entrance and multi-threading. It is implemented somewhere thanks to Eliot. I do not remember the details: which VM? which Plugin? restrictions on OS? At the end it is difficult to explain all of that and make it work if you not spent lot of time on it. I think that we should merge every working and important part into only 1 good FFI library. And we *must* rename it also. #Luc 2011/8/19 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > :) > Most of the things we do for pharo are freely available > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > Just found the tex file: > > > > > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english/blob/mast… > > -- > > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Benjamin

Should be fixed now ;) (I hope ^^) Ben On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I cannot open Nautilus. I have an error with a sorting collection or something like that. > I use Pharo 1.4. > I tried with the version 3.1 and 3.4 of RPackage. > > Alexandre > > > On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:21, Benjamin wrote: > >> with pleasure ;) >> >> >> Ben >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> I am trying. We should pair program this week >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:10, Benjamin wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for report, it's fixed now :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I get this error: >>>>> >>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>>> ClassEnvironment >>>>> BrowserEnvironment >>>>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >>>>> BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer >>>>> BrowserEnvironment>>packages >>>>> ClassEnvironment>>packages >>>>> >>>>> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. >>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13299

by Marcus Denker

13299 ----- Issue 4655: Additional Socket woes http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4655 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Alexandre Bergel

I cannot open Nautilus. I have an error with a sorting collection or something like that. I use Pharo 1.4. I tried with the version 3.1 and 3.4 of RPackage. Alexandre On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:21, Benjamin wrote: > with pleasure ;) > > > Ben > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> I am trying. We should pair program this week >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:10, Benjamin wrote: >> >>> Thanks for report, it's fixed now :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I get this error: >>>> >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>> ClassEnvironment >>>> BrowserEnvironment >>>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >>>> BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer >>>> BrowserEnvironment>>packages >>>> ClassEnvironment>>packages >>>> >>>> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Benjamin

with pleasure ;) Ben On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I am trying. We should pair program this week > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:10, Benjamin wrote: > >> Thanks for report, it's fixed now :) >> >> >> >> Ben >> >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I get this error: >>> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> This package depends on the following classes: >>> ClassEnvironment >>> BrowserEnvironment >>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >>> BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer >>> BrowserEnvironment>>packages >>> ClassEnvironment>>packages >>> >>> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Alexandre Bergel

I am trying. We should pair program this week Cheers, Alexandre On 19 Aug 2011, at 17:10, Benjamin wrote: > Thanks for report, it's fixed now :) > > > > Ben > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I get this error: >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> This package depends on the following classes: >> ClassEnvironment >> BrowserEnvironment >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >> BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer >> BrowserEnvironment>>packages >> ClassEnvironment>>packages >> >> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Benjamin

Thanks for report, it's fixed now :) Ben On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > I get this error: > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > This package depends on the following classes: > ClassEnvironment > BrowserEnvironment > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: > BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer > BrowserEnvironment>>packages > ClassEnvironment>>packages > > Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] setUp and test methods

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Indeed, refactorings for unit tests are completely absent from the software > engineering community. > Oh, so you just have to invent it :) Laurent. > > Alexandre > > > On 19 Aug 2011, at 15:39, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Before leading a revolution, we can maybe have this work for unit test > first :-) > > > > Actually, when I think about it, having not the setUp visible when > writing tests make the setUp functionality mostly useless. > > > > > > Also, I usually write the setUp to remove duplication, so often after the > second test method. A refactoring "extract to setUp" would be cool too. > > > > Another point, when I have a hierarchy of TestCase I often feel I need a > "merged setUp view" > > > > Laurent. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 19 Aug 2011, at 15:19, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > I know there are many TDD shoguns around. > > > > > > I was wondering whether I am the only one suffering from the need to > see the definition of setUp before writing a test method. Unfortunately, > current tool does not automatically show the definition of setUp when I want > to write a new test. > > > The cost of seeing how the setUp is done is high: need to open a new > window, clicking to restore the context on the first window, ... > > > > > > Am I the only one? > > > > > > > > > No. I would like too. > > > > > > But not only for tests. I often need to look at several related methods > at once while developing. > > > > > > Laurent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alexandre > > > -- > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2011