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Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?

by Igor Stasenko

On 12 November 2011 12:47, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Le 12/11/2011 06:39, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : >> >> >> On 11 November 2011 23:13, Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com >> <mailto:johannesrasche@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Â Â as Igor mentioned yesterday it's useful for long texts. >> >> >> well, i said that its purpose to display different portions of same text >> in multiple morphs. >> For long texts, i really doubt that its uselful, because it doesn't scales >> well. >> >> Â Â I would suggest, if the majority don't see the advantage of pred/succ, >> Â Â to create a subclass >> >> Agreed. >> Right now , Pharo not using this feature in text editor(s). There is no >> need to have such complicated text composition, >> and i doubt it will arise. >> If someone would want to create a full-pledged text viewer/editor with >> multipage/multicolumn layout support, first thing >> what i would do is to use different model for text, not one which used in >> Text class. >> > So I don't see why you agree ... :) > better is to let TextMorph as it is then. > No energy to build a subclass for nothing. oh, sorry. i meant we can rip off this of TextMorph. And if there are someone who using this feature (where are you), we can create a subclass with this stuff. > Cheers > Alain -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 12, 2011

[Pharo-project] Idea for Seaside/Pharo/DrGeo project

by Hilaire Fernandes

I start to receive more and more sketches produced with DrGeo. Once Laurent told me it will be nice to have web site for DrGeo using Seaside or any other Smalltalk web framework. Now I see you it could be nice: - From DrGeo user could upload sketch to the web server - The web server with the adhoc drgeo code, could render the uploaded sketches - The user could also download from DrGeo remote sketch on the web server. Of course tagging system will be used to categorize the sketch. Anyone interested? I can guarantee no paying! Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?

by Alain Plantec

Le 12/11/2011 06:39, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > > > On 11 November 2011 23:13, Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com > <mailto:johannesrasche@mac.com>> wrote: > > > as Igor mentioned yesterday it's useful for long texts. > > > well, i said that its purpose to display different portions of same > text in multiple morphs. > For long texts, i really doubt that its uselful, because it doesn't > scales well. > > I would suggest, if the majority don't see the advantage of pred/succ, > to create a subclass > > Agreed. > Right now , Pharo not using this feature in text editor(s). There is > no need to have such complicated text composition, > and i doubt it will arise. > If someone would want to create a full-pledged text viewer/editor with > multipage/multicolumn layout support, first thing > what i would do is to use different model for text, not one which used > in Text class. > So I don't see why you agree ... :) better is to let TextMorph as it is then. No energy to build a subclass for nothing. Cheers Alain > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 12, 2011

[Pharo-project] DrGeo Enlgish video tutorial

by Hilaire Fernandes

I remember some of you were upset with the French commented video tutorials on DrGeo I produced. So I start a new series with English comments. http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2011/11/12/English-video-tutor… -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Comparing a package code with current code

by Igor Stasenko

changes button always worked for me. On 12 November 2011 01:12, Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com> wrote: > what else would be compared ?! > > anyway I didn't do that, so I cannot judge > > I used merge, but that may be cumbersome > > Johannes > > Am 12.11.11 00:03, schrieb Hernan Wilkinson: > > nop... it does not compare the code from the package and image... > It think I did this before but I don't find the way now. > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Francois Stephany > <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Hernan, >> >> Can't you use the 'Changes' button on the Monticello browser? >> >>> How can I see the differences between code that is in a >>> package and the code in an image? >> > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site:Â http://www.10Pines.com > Address: ParaguayÂ 523, Floor 7 N, Buenos Aires, Argentina > > > -- > Johannes Rasche Hagelberger Str. 56 10965 Berlin mail johannesrasche(a)mac.com > mobile +49 1577 175 04 75 -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin to trigger Jenkins build when there are squeaksource commits

by Igor Stasenko

On 11 November 2011 19:36, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hi guys. It seems the Jenkins of Pharo is using the plugin "URL Change Trigger" which is deprecated and I cannot install it. >> The new plugin is URLTrigger Plugin but I don't know how to configure it with SqueakSource. Do you know? does it work? >> > > We should install it. But it needs a newer version of Jenkins than we have. > Which means we should check how to update the Jenkins INRIA installation.... > > It is on my TODO, but I fear it will take a while till I find time to look at this. > I meeting with INRIA guys at morning, to discuss jenkins setup and what we need. Please, let me know if you want to ask something else about jenkins, like that, i will let them know. > Â Â Â Â Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor?

by Igor Stasenko

On 11 November 2011 23:13, Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Pharo-project] > TextMorph: what is the purpose of predecessor/successor? Datum: Fri, 11 > Nov 2011 15:34:47 +0100 Von: Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)me.com><johannesrasche(a)me.com> Antwort > an: johannesrasche(a)me.com An: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > as Igor mentioned yesterday it's useful for long texts. > > well, i said that its purpose to display different portions of same text in multiple morphs. For long texts, i really doubt that its uselful, because it doesn't scales well. > I would suggest, if the majority don't see the advantage of pred/succ, > to create a subclass > > Agreed. Right now , Pharo not using this feature in text editor(s). There is no need to have such complicated text composition, and i doubt it will arise. If someone would want to create a full-pledged text viewer/editor with multipage/multicolumn layout support, first thing what i would do is to use different model for text, not one which used in Text class. > Johannes > > Am 11.11.11 14:43, schrieb Alain Plantec: > > I forgot to say that I think we should simplify TextMorph as much as > > possible. > > I've already removed predecessor/successsor some time ago for my own > > textmorph fork. > > I open an isssue > > Alain > > > > Le 11/11/2011 10:38, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > >> Thanks. > >> Yes, i remember i seen this before, but i had no idea how it > >> implemented. > >> > >> On 10 November 2011 18:36, Alain Plantec<alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi Igor, > >>> See the screenshot (Squeak 3.6). > >>> You can have several morphs editing the same text. > >>> Each morph containing its own part of the text. > >>> I guess predecessor ans successor are used in this context. > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Alain > >>> > >>> Le 10/11/2011 16:50, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > >>>> looks like the purpose is to make multiple morphs, displaying > >>>> different (but adjacent) portions of one text.. > >>>> > >>>> But what i don't understand is what is the practical use of it? Is > >>>> there an examples of such use of TextMorph(s)? > >>>> As to me this looks a bit of over-enineering: > >>>> morph represents a view of some model. > >>>> Nothing prevents us from creating multiple different views of same > >>>> model (a text in this case). And i don't get, what do we gain by > >>>> letting them know about each other. > >>>> If there is a need to have a coordination between views, i think it > >>>> would be much simpler to have some centralized parent object/morph, > >>>> which managing additional complexity related with such > >>>> composition. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The functionality seems to be working: > >>>> in text morph's halo, click on its menu , and there will be > >>>> 'add predecessor' > >>>> and > >>>> 'add successor' > >>>> menu items, which creating a fresh text morphs over same text and put > >>>> it in ?hand? > >>>> > >>>> i am clueless, what is purpose of this and whether it belongs to right > >>>> place.. that's why i asking. > >>>> (i would just throw it away ;) > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Comparing a package code with current code

by Johannes Rasche

what else would be compared ?! anyway I didn't do that, so I cannot judge I used merge, but that may be cumbersome Johannes Am 12.11.11 00:03, schrieb Hernan Wilkinson: > nop... it does not compare the code from the package and image... > It think I did this before but I don't find the way now. > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Francois Stephany > <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com <mailto:tulipe.moutarde@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Hernan, > > Can't you use the 'Changes' button on the Monticello browser? > > > How can I see the differences between code that is in a > package and the code in an image? > > > > > > -- > *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>* > Address: Paraguay 523, Floor 7 N, Buenos Aires, Argentina > -- Johannes Rasche /Hagelberger Str. 56 10965 Berlin mail johannesrasche(a)mac.com mobile +49 1577 175 04 75/

Nov. 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Comparing a package code with current code

by Hernan Wilkinson

nop... it does not compare the code from the package and image... It think I did this before but I don't find the way now. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Francois Stephany < tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Hernan, > > Can't you use the 'Changes' button on the Monticello browser? > > > How can I see the differences between code that is in a >> package and the code in an image? >> > > -- *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>* Address: Paraguay 523, Floor 7 N, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Nov. 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Comparing a package code with current code

by Francois Stephany

Hi Hernan, Can't you use the 'Changes' button on the Monticello browser? > How can I see the differences between code that is in a > package and the code in an image?

Nov. 11, 2011