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Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Stefan Marr

On 15 Nov 2011, at 13:48, Fernando Olivero wrote: > I NEVER had an image crash, of course i'm not stating that it cant > crash, but would be nice to know how many people have to deal with > image crashes and how often. In the course of one week: $ grep STARTUP MyImage.35.changes | grep MyImage | wc -l 45 What does that mean? I started the image 45 times. And, no, I did not frequently save and quit the image, I just made it crash/unusable one way or another. How to deal with it? $ grep SNAPSHOT MyImage.35.changes | grep MyImage | wc -l 145 But, well, what I did is certainly uncommon usage scenario. People usually do not change #basicNew/#basicNew: or the Parser/Compiler/Encoder classes. So much for numbers Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean Allen

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 15.11.2011 um 04:39 schrieb Sean Allen: > > >> >> > This is new. This wasn't happening before. This is happening with images >> > that were fine the last time I opened them in the spring. >> > Something is messed up on my machine. Hoping someone else has gone >> through >> > this and fixed it. >> > >> > >> >> Can you provide more details? What is VM version you using, what is OS >> version etc. >> >> > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > and both have the issue. > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying > installing a new one to see if that helps. > > Sean, > > do you have another machine handy? In this cases it might be a good idea > to make a quick check with the same image on another machine. > > Norbert > Ya everything is indeed fine on another Mac ( older model ) running 10.6.8 I copied over a 1.2.1 one click that I had been messing around with a few months back and its very usable.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] changing a method on an image file without loading the image

by Fernando Olivero

I have never done that, but what i usually do is to load the .changes file, and recover the lost changes (or the everything ) from there. Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Javier PimÃ¡s <elpochodelagente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, my image got broken and I think I know (thanks to the dump) what I should change. But it won't load so I need to modify the image file from the outside world. Is there any way? > > Cheers, > Javier. > > -- > Lic. Javier PimÃ¡s > Ciudad de Buenos Aires >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean T Allen

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 15.11.2011 um 04:39 schrieb Sean Allen: > > > > > > > > > > This is new. This wasn't happening before. This is happening with images > > > > that were fine the last time I opened them in the spring. > > > > Something is messed up on my machine. Hoping someone else has gone through > > > > this and fixed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide more details? What is VM version you using, what is OS > > > version etc. > > > > > > > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > > > and both have the issue. > > > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying installing a new one to see if that helps. > > > Sean, > > do you have another machine handy? In this cases it might be a good idea to make a quick check with the same image on another machine. > > Norbert I do have another Mac I could try one of the images on. I'm pretty sure it would work on another and this is an issue on my machine. -Sean-

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean T Allen

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Sean, > > On 15 Nov 2011, at 04:39, Sean Allen wrote: > > > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > > > and both have the issue. > > > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying installing a new one to see if that helps. > > This is _definitively_ not normal, many Pharo developers are on Mac, using it all day long, this would unbearable for any of us. > > This must be a local problem. Do you have a chance to try this on some other mac so that you have a reference for yourself ? I used pharo for every day development for 2 years so ya, I know this isn't normal. Unfortunately, I'm left with the situation where something is causing this but I have no idea what and it crosses image versions. If no one else has ever had the same local problem, I have a long road to figure this out most likely. Sean hoping someone has experienced this before and knows a solution.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Fernando Olivero

I NEVER had an image crash, of course i'm not stating that it cant crash, but would be nice to know how many people have to deal with image crashes and how often. Because, up to now, during my last 3 years of Pharo usage it never has been a big issue for me. Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller <oldmanlink(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think the troll said he was leaving, so let's just all take a deep breath, be thankful for that, and move on. > > Positive energy is what we need here, feeding trolls drains us more than one would think, so as far as possible we should just try and ignore them. > > Carlo's answer was cool, too ;-) > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com<mailto:siguctua@gmail.com>> wrote: > Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i > think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes > etc. > Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) > that the software i use is unstable, when > i using it every day and it works well for me? > > On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com<mailto:gstepken@googlemail.com>> wrote: >> Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite useless for anybody ... will do that! >> >> Guido Stepken >> >> Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr<mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: >> >>> >>> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: >>> >>>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). >>>> >>>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. >>>> >>>> What are you doing? Don't know! >>> >>> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? >>> >>> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. >>> >>> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. >>> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) >>> >>> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. >>> >>> Â Â Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

I think the troll said he was leaving, so let's just all take a deep breath, be thankful for that, and move on. Positive energy is what we need here, feeding trolls drains us more than one would think, so as far as possible we should just try and ignore them. Carlo's answer was cool, too ;-) -- Cheers, Peter On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i > think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes > etc. > Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) > that the software i use is unstable, when > i using it every day and it works well for me? > > On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite > useless for anybody ... will do that! > > > > Guido Stepken > > > > Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > > >> > >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > >> > >>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to > do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point > theorem). > >>> > >>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent > state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. > >>> > >>> What are you doing? Don't know! > >> > >> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? > >> > >> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. > >> > >> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so > the best for all is that you just go away. > >> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) > >> > >> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and > everyone is happy. > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Igor Stasenko

Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes etc. Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) that the software i use is unstable, when i using it every day and it works well for me? On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite useless for anybody ... will do that! > > Guido Stepken > > Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: >> >>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). >>> >>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. >>> >>> What are you doing? Don't know! >> >> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? >> >> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. >> >> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. >> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) >> >> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. >> >> Â Â Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] gsub like solution for Pharo/Smalltalk

by Fernando Olivero

Hi, this is an alternative script, i've added a couple of extra examples you might find useful. Evaluate them in a workspace. delimiter := $@. string := 'key1@value1@key2@value2'. substrings := string subStrings: {delimiter}. dictionary := Dictionary new. substrings groupsOf: 2 atATimeDo:[:each| dictionary at: each second put: each first ]. str := '' writeStream. dictionary storeOn: str. str contents. str := '' writeStream. dictionary keysAndValuesDo:[:key :value| str nextPutAll: value ; nextPut: delimiter ; nextPutAll: key ]. str contents Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:15 AM, mail list <mail.list(a)ficonab.com> wrote: > Nicolas, > Thanks. Â Verbose is fine. Â I will give your suggestion a try. > > I also commented on fernando's email below. > > S. > On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > >> It might seem a bit verbose, but your example translates as >> >> aDictionary associations inject: string into: [:subst :assoc | assoc >> key asRegex copy: subst replacingMatchesWith: assoc value]. >> >> Nicolas >> >> 2011/11/14 Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch>: >>> I dont fully understand your question, also i have no idea what #gsub does. > gsub does a global search and replace in the string to replace any elements with the replacement text. > mystring:='hello there hello' > > eg myString.gsub('hello','goodbye') Â ===> 'goodbye there goodbye' > > S. >>> >>> do you start from a dictionary ? or a string ? it seems that you want >>> to create a dictionary from a particular string. >>> >>> Could you provide an example of such string, i could help you in >>> finding the correct messages of String/Stream to send. >>> >>> The #gsub message, seems pertinent to all Strings? or is a special >>> behavior for your special case? >>> >>> >>> Fernando >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 14 Nov 2011, at 08:25, mail list wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have Â a dictionary of keys and values. >>>>> >>>>> I have a text string in which the keys are marked with before and ending symbols. >>>>> >>>>> In ruby to replace the key with the value in the text string is reasonably simple. Â (eg Dictionary.each { key,value | string.gsub!(key,value) } Â - or similar to this. >>>>> >>>>> While I don't mind rolling my version of this in Smalltalk, just exploring the regex code and the streams code it is not obvious where is the easiest place to start. >>>>> >>>>> If someone would put their comments on where to start I will build the functionality and put it up on squeaksource since I think it is common requirement. >>>>> >>>>> S. >>>> >>>> There is String>>#format: but there are probably other options as well. >>>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

Nov. 15, 2011

[Pharo-project] pharo-xmlrpc samples fail in Pharo 1.3

by seamus

Hi all Just wondering what to do next. I need a working xmlrpc library for a project I am working on but the latest version of pharo-xmlrpc fails due to a DoesNotUnderstand #contentString error. This is just testing the samples provided as below: | url proxy r | url := Url absoluteFromText: 'http://snipplr.com/xml-rpc.php'. proxy := XMLRPCProxy new url: url. r := proxy invokeMethod: 'languages.list' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key'). r := proxy invokeMethod: 'user.checkkey' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key'). r := proxy invokeMethod: 'snippet.list' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key' 'pharo'). "To get a snippet you don't need key, but the Snippet ID" r := proxy invokeMethod: 'snippet.get' withArgs: #('41365'). Any ideas to get this working? I see that someone mentioned that this may be a missing method in the Dictionary object. Regards Seamus -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-xmlrpc-samples-fail-in-Pharo-1-3-tp4042738p4042… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 15, 2011