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Re: [Pharo-project] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Sean P. DeNigris

Stephan Eggermont wrote > >> Although it is important that the community keeps on growing, we reached >> critical mass a long time ago, IMHO. > For innovators yes. For early adopters, no. They value different things. > There was a great TED Talk that speaks to this topic: Simon Sinek: How great leaders inspire action http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html And a Smalltalk discussion of it at http://forum.world.st/Spreading-Smalltalk-td3435227.html The bottom line is: tell people what you believe, not what you do; and the tipping point (critical mass) is 15%-18%. "You can trip over 10% of the customers... that just 'get it'", but "the early majority will not try something until someone else has tried it first" -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Re-Company-freelance-working-with-Pharo-Seaside-tp418… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing network primitive

by Noury Bouraqadi

Ok. I added it to the Cog bug tracker. http://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=68 Noury On 10 dÃ©c. 2011, at 16:29, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> While working on OCEAN (yes, yes, we're still working on it :-) we have an annoying issue. >> We have some netname resolver tests that do work with the Squeak Mac VM 5.8, but they are not working in the Mac Cog VMs. >> >> This is because the following primitives are missing at the VM side. Still, they are useful cause they allow getting addresses of all network interfaces of your machine. >> >> primitiveResolverGetAddressInfo >> primitiveResolverGetAddressInfoSize >> primitiveResolverGetAddressInfoResult >> primitiveResolverGetNameInfo >> primitiveResolverGetNameInfoHostSize >> primitiveResolverGetNameInfoHostResult >> primitiveResolverGetAddressInfoNext >> >> >> There are methods defined in the old NetNameResolver (class side) that call these primitives, but they are NOT referenced. >> primGetAddressInfoHost:service:flags:family:type:protocol: >> primGetAddressInfoSize >> primGetAddressInfoResult: >> primGetNameInfo:flags: >> primGetNameInfoHostSize >> primGetNameInfoHostResult: >> primGetAddressInfoNext >> >> We checked the SqueakVM SVN, and they are there in the SocketPlugin.c >> Why didn't they get introduced in Mac CogVM? >> Are there missing for other platforms too? > > Yes they are, CogVM was forked before these were added to SqueakVM. > > > Levente > >> >> Luc and Noury >> -- >> http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi >> >> >> > Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Sprint friday 16 @ lille

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi, On 9 dÃ©c. 2011, at 09:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I'm not sure that my message passed in the mailing-list. > We will organize a sprint new friday and everybody is welcome. Cool. I'll be there! > Just let us know so that we prepare the rooms. > It would be nice if we have a few items we collaborate to addess. One possible item I'm planning to contribute to is to help Marcus/help our selves by reviewing some pending fixes in the bug tracker. Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Stephan Eggermont

Sven wrote: > Having an active community where many people participate in making Pharo better all the time is the best reference. While that is a necessity, it is only relevant for a certain public (technically advanced, developer oriented, long term view). It is not necessarily something other potential customers value. I'm currently doing a data conversion project. Everything outside a timespan of the next 6 months is simply irrelevant. Startups with a lack of deep technological knowledge also cannot tell the difference between a very large but clueless community and a small, but active and knowledgable. > It is also important that success stories, even small ones, are shared. Very much so. And (also) in a form that less technical people can understand. > But I guess that half the people on these lists are available for remotely delivered services in one form or another ;-) That seems like a correct observation. On the other hand these mailing lists function as a filter and are not a good way to match demand and supply. The problem is in explaining where Pharo/Seaside can provide a good solution in business terms. > Although it is important that the community keeps on growing, we reached critical mass a long time ago, IMHO. For innovators yes. For early adopters, no. They value different things. Stephan

Dec. 12, 2011

[Pharo-project] Videos ESUG 2010 on Youtube

by Marcus Denker

Now *complete* 54 videos, 35 hours play time. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431285A978F581BB -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Citezen

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Ok, I'll bite: is the mismatch somehow acceptable? Without the extraneous brace, Citezen parses the text; with the extraneous brace, it gives a token not expected error, which seems completely correct. Am I missing something? My image is a little old (if it ain't broke...), so maybe there has been a breaking change?? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Alexandre Bergel [alexandre.bergel(a)me.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:54 PM To: Oscar Nierstrasz Cc: Pharo Development Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Citezen I haven't checked closely, but it may comes from the bibitem Kort08a: @incollection{Kort08a, author = {Kortenkamp, David and Simmons, Reid}, title = {Robotic systems architectures and programming}, chapter = {8}, booktitle = {Springer Handbook of Robotics}, pages = {187--206}, address = {Berlin, Heidelberg}, publisher = {Springer}, doi = {10.1007/978-3-540-30301-5}, year = {2008}, keywords = {robotics springer damiencbib}, isbn = {978-3-540-23957-4} } } Obviously, there is a mismatch of the curly brackets. But both bibtex and "make test" are happy. Strange. Maybe a white character is somewhere between. Cheers, Alexandre On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > We are using Citezen-Pier to parse the scgbib on our web site. I'm on the Netherlands right now so I cannot check ... > > cheers > on > > --- > Prof. Dr. O. Nierstrasz -- oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch > Software Composition Group -- http://scg.unibe.ch/oscar > University of Bern -- Tel/Fax +41 31 631.4618/3355 > > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:26, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Apparently, Citezen does not parse scg.bib (http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib) The following expression raises an error: CZBibParser parse: (FileStream fileNamed: '/Users/alexandrebergel/Workspace/scgbib/scg.bib') contents >> >> Is there something obvious I missed? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Thanks Stef! > >>> Again I repeat it (and I know that you know): we are really interested in making business grows around pharo. > > We know =) > >> It is also important that success stories, even small ones, are shared. >> Having a public list of available consultancy resources would be good, yes. > > Yep, that's the two main points for me. > >> But I guess that half the people on these lists are available for remotely delivered services in one form or another ;-) > > That's true. And I guess there are many silent observers in the list as well. How many people are there on > Pharo-Dev 541 > and Pharo-Users by the way? 256 But both with the ones that are on [Nomail] which can be because of unsubscribe or because they read the list via a gateway. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Latest Zinc in Pharo 1.3 with MetacelloConfiguration

by Francois Stephany

Dag Sven, > It would be great if you could update both to the latest versions of all packages. I've updated the configuration to all the latest packages except for Gemstone. Wehn Running the 190 tests I get one failure: ZnClientTests>>testIfFailNonExistingHost Let me now if I did something wrong ;) Cheers, Francois

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Citezen

by Alexandre Bergel

I haven't checked closely, but it may comes from the bibitem Kort08a: @incollection{Kort08a, author = {Kortenkamp, David and Simmons, Reid}, title = {Robotic systems architectures and programming}, chapter = {8}, booktitle = {Springer Handbook of Robotics}, pages = {187--206}, address = {Berlin, Heidelberg}, publisher = {Springer}, doi = {10.1007/978-3-540-30301-5}, year = {2008}, keywords = {robotics springer damiencbib}, isbn = {978-3-540-23957-4} } } Obviously, there is a mismatch of the curly brackets. But both bibtex and "make test" are happy. Strange. Maybe a white character is somewhere between. Cheers, Alexandre On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > We are using Citezen-Pier to parse the scgbib on our web site. I'm on the Netherlands right now so I cannot check ... > > cheers > on > > --- > Prof. Dr. O. Nierstrasz -- oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch > Software Composition Group -- http://scg.unibe.ch/oscar > University of Bern -- Tel/Fax +41 31 631.4618/3355 > > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:26, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Apparently, Citezen does not parse scg.bib (http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib) The following expression raises an error: CZBibParser parse: (FileStream fileNamed: '/Users/alexandrebergel/Workspace/scgbib/scg.bib') contents >> >> Is there something obvious I missed? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Scat - Public Release and announcement

by Francois Stephany

That's pretty cool! Spotted in the announcement: > A project we've been longing to start for a while is a music live-coding environment based solely on engaging blocks of different kinds, which the current working code in Scat should let us build without too much hassle! Tell us more :)

Dec. 12, 2011