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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

by Ben Coman

On 13 April 2018 at 21:14, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > On 13 Apr 2018, at 15:04, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you make the video available online? > > > https://youtu.be/A9H8jsSnBKM > I like the new "New Repo", particularly additional of GitHub alternative (not that I use them, but options is good) Could you consider adding here a "Pharo Dev Repo" or "Contribute to Pharo" entry or similar which presets *everything* required to clone the Pharo repo. Later, here you might even go as far as letting uses entry an Issue and pre-create the branch that a fix will be submitted on. But for now... one step at a time. cheers -ben

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] request Calypso added as a "project" in Fogbugz

by Sean P. DeNigris

Ben Coman wrote > However I have some concerns about scattering Issues away from Fogbugz > since this makes it harder to get an overview of outstanding issues Point taken, but: - IIUC we will be soon moving to *all* github issues anyway - duplication has it's own negative consequences - There are significant benefits to GH issues for GH code like all the auto-references (issues, commits, etc) ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

by Marcus Denker

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 15:04, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you make the video available online? https://youtu.be/A9H8jsSnBKM > Another question, is there a tutorial on Iceberg? For the updated UI not yet. From the âhow do I commit a PR to Pharoâ perspective, I will do next week: -> an update to the description on the website how to commit to PR -> Do a short video of how to do contribute to Paro7 (as a replacement of the video tutorial I did). Marcus > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 03:10 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > This is today > > 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+02:00) > > There is a calendar entry to download at: https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068 <https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068> > > > On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:34, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There next TechTalk will be April 12: GIT with Iceberg > > > > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068 <https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068> > > > > > > A regular chat about Pharo. Happens on Discord. > > > > The Tech talks are open to both members and non-members! > > > > Topic: GIT with Iceberg. Demo of improved UI > > > > We will send an information to all subscribers some hours before the talk starts. > > > > > >

April 13, 2018

[ANN] Pharo Sprint Apr 20

by Marcus Denker

Pharo Sprint Apr 20 https://association.pharo.org/event-2789579 We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Apr 20 , starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Paris). Goals of this sprint: â¢ Pharo 7 issues Remote Sprint Remotely, you can join us on Discord. During the sprint, we synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters: Known Local Sprint meetings Lille/France: It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come

April 13, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #763: 21691-update-iceberg-to-072

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #763 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #1192 was integrated: "21691-update-iceberg-to-072" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1192 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/21691 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New VM stables promoted

by Tudor Girba

Sounds good. Thanks for the explanation and for all the effort! Doru > On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:35, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> A question: do we need to revert all VMs if only the Linux 32 is not working? Do we prefer to release all together because it is easier to manage? > > yes, is because otherwise is a mess to manage. > but you can always use vmLatest instead stable, if you want to use a better version on your platform. > > cheers, > Esteban > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:12, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 13 April 2018 at 12:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Esteban, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know whether you also updated the 6.1 VMs, but for the Pharo 7 >>>>>> VMs could you consider only reverting the linux 32 bit VM? >>>>> >>>>> I reverted all. >>>>> And I started to check the linux problem. >>>> >>>> OK. Just for reference, linux 64 bits on Ubuntu 16.04 is fine so far. :-) >>> >>> yes I knew it :P >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alistair >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> cheers! >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> ps: I think I will separate dependency build from vm build, as I talked with Nico and Eliot beforeâ¦ this is too much and no reason to keep having problems just because a dependency breaks (dependencies should not be built all the time anyway). >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pharo 7 is alpha, so anyone (well, most people :-)) using it are >>>>>> prepared for a few hiccups, and it will provide better confidence when >>>>>> you do the next update. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Alistair >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 April 2018 at 11:53, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mehâ¦ and I will be to revert again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will *need* to revert, I meant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> linux 32 VM libgit2 is not working, it seems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will revert. >>>>>>> And I will do an stop the world to fix the VM dependency problems because >>>>>>> this is too much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next week, updates of iceberg will come from Guilleâs hand, I will be >>>>>>> working on VM-side. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:42, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:31, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Esteban. Including 7.0 64 bits ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All VMs. >>>>>>> (Still not 64bit windows, sorry) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just promoted new VMs as stable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This are the builds corresponding to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 201804122226 (07c6dc3) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this passed the build tests so *it should* be ok. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can you people test? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) >>>>>>> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for >>>>>>> machines to execute." >>>>>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it." >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New VM stables promoted

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:35, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > A question: do we need to revert all VMs if only the Linux 32 is not working? Do we prefer to release all together because it is easier to manage? yes, is because otherwise is a mess to manage. but you can always use vmLatest instead stable, if you want to use a better version on your platform. cheers, Esteban > > Cheers, > Doru > >> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:12, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 13 April 2018 at 12:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Esteban, >>>>> >>>>> I don't know whether you also updated the 6.1 VMs, but for the Pharo 7 >>>>> VMs could you consider only reverting the linux 32 bit VM? >>>> >>>> I reverted all. >>>> And I started to check the linux problem. >>> >>> OK. Just for reference, linux 64 bits on Ubuntu 16.04 is fine so far. :-) >> >> yes I knew it :P >> >> Esteban >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alistair >>> >>> >>> >>>> cheers! >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> ps: I think I will separate dependency build from vm build, as I talked with Nico and Eliot beforeâ¦ this is too much and no reason to keep having problems just because a dependency breaks (dependencies should not be built all the time anyway). >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pharo 7 is alpha, so anyone (well, most people :-)) using it are >>>>> prepared for a few hiccups, and it will provide better confidence when >>>>> you do the next update. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alistair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13 April 2018 at 11:53, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> mehâ¦ and I will be to revert again. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will *need* to revert, I meant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> linux 32 VM libgit2 is not working, it seems. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will revert. >>>>>> And I will do an stop the world to fix the VM dependency problems because >>>>>> this is too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Next week, updates of iceberg will come from Guilleâs hand, I will be >>>>>> working on VM-side. >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers, >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:42, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:31, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Esteban. Including 7.0 64 bits ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All VMs. >>>>>> (Still not 64bit windows, sorry) >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just promoted new VMs as stable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This are the builds corresponding to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 201804122226 (07c6dc3) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this passed the build tests so *it should* be ok. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> can you people test? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) >>>>>> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for >>>>>> machines to execute." >>>>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it." > >

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New VM stables promoted

by Tudor Girba

Hi, A question: do we need to revert all VMs if only the Linux 32 is not working? Do we prefer to release all together because it is easier to manage? Cheers, Doru > On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:12, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 13 April 2018 at 12:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Esteban, >>>> >>>> I don't know whether you also updated the 6.1 VMs, but for the Pharo 7 >>>> VMs could you consider only reverting the linux 32 bit VM? >>> >>> I reverted all. >>> And I started to check the linux problem. >> >> OK. Just for reference, linux 64 bits on Ubuntu 16.04 is fine so far. :-) > > yes I knew it :P > > Esteban > >> >> Cheers, >> Alistair >> >> >> >>> cheers! >>> Esteban >>> >>> ps: I think I will separate dependency build from vm build, as I talked with Nico and Eliot beforeâ¦ this is too much and no reason to keep having problems just because a dependency breaks (dependencies should not be built all the time anyway). >>> >>>> >>>> Pharo 7 is alpha, so anyone (well, most people :-)) using it are >>>> prepared for a few hiccups, and it will provide better confidence when >>>> you do the next update. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alistair >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 April 2018 at 11:53, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> mehâ¦ and I will be to revert again. >>>>> >>>>> I will *need* to revert, I meant. >>>>> >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> linux 32 VM libgit2 is not working, it seems. >>>>> >>>>> I will revert. >>>>> And I will do an stop the world to fix the VM dependency problems because >>>>> this is too much. >>>>> >>>>> Next week, updates of iceberg will come from Guilleâs hand, I will be >>>>> working on VM-side. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:42, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:31, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Esteban. Including 7.0 64 bits ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All VMs. >>>>> (Still not 64bit windows, sorry) >>>>> >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just promoted new VMs as stable. >>>>>> >>>>>> This are the builds corresponding to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 201804122226 (07c6dc3) >>>>>> >>>>>> this passed the build tests so *it should* be ok. >>>>>> >>>>>> can you people test? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) >>>>> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for >>>>> machines to execute." >>>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it."

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New VM stables promoted

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:12, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 13 April 2018 at 12:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Esteban, >>> >>> I don't know whether you also updated the 6.1 VMs, but for the Pharo 7 >>> VMs could you consider only reverting the linux 32 bit VM? >> >> I reverted all. >> And I started to check the linux problem. > > OK. Just for reference, linux 64 bits on Ubuntu 16.04 is fine so far. :-) yes I knew it :P Esteban > > Cheers, > Alistair > > > >> cheers! >> Esteban >> >> ps: I think I will separate dependency build from vm build, as I talked with Nico and Eliot beforeâ¦ this is too much and no reason to keep having problems just because a dependency breaks (dependencies should not be built all the time anyway). >> >>> >>> Pharo 7 is alpha, so anyone (well, most people :-)) using it are >>> prepared for a few hiccups, and it will provide better confidence when >>> you do the next update. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alistair >>> >>> >>> On 13 April 2018 at 11:53, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> mehâ¦ and I will be to revert again. >>>> >>>> I will *need* to revert, I meant. >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> linux 32 VM libgit2 is not working, it seems. >>>> >>>> I will revert. >>>> And I will do an stop the world to fix the VM dependency problems because >>>> this is too much. >>>> >>>> Next week, updates of iceberg will come from Guilleâs hand, I will be >>>> working on VM-side. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:42, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:31, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Esteban. Including 7.0 64 bits ? >>>> >>>> >>>> All VMs. >>>> (Still not 64bit windows, sorry) >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just promoted new VMs as stable. >>>>> >>>>> This are the builds corresponding to: >>>>> >>>>> 201804122226 (07c6dc3) >>>>> >>>>> this passed the build tests so *it should* be ok. >>>>> >>>>> can you people test? >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) >>>> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for >>>> machines to execute." >>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

April 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New VM stables promoted

by Alistair Grant

On 13 April 2018 at 12:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Esteban, >> >> I don't know whether you also updated the 6.1 VMs, but for the Pharo 7 >> VMs could you consider only reverting the linux 32 bit VM? > > I reverted all. > And I started to check the linux problem. OK. Just for reference, linux 64 bits on Ubuntu 16.04 is fine so far. :-) Cheers, Alistair > cheers! > Esteban > > ps: I think I will separate dependency build from vm build, as I talked with Nico and Eliot beforeâ¦ this is too much and no reason to keep having problems just because a dependency breaks (dependencies should not be built all the time anyway). > >> >> Pharo 7 is alpha, so anyone (well, most people :-)) using it are >> prepared for a few hiccups, and it will provide better confidence when >> you do the next update. >> >> Thanks, >> Alistair >> >> >> On 13 April 2018 at 11:53, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> mehâ¦ and I will be to revert again. >>> >>> I will *need* to revert, I meant. >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> linux 32 VM libgit2 is not working, it seems. >>> >>> I will revert. >>> And I will do an stop the world to fix the VM dependency problems because >>> this is too much. >>> >>> Next week, updates of iceberg will come from Guilleâs hand, I will be >>> working on VM-side. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:42, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:31, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Esteban. Including 7.0 64 bits ? >>> >>> >>> All VMs. >>> (Still not 64bit windows, sorry) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I just promoted new VMs as stable. >>>> >>>> This are the builds corresponding to: >>>> >>>> 201804122226 (07c6dc3) >>>> >>>> this passed the build tests so *it should* be ok. >>>> >>>> can you people test? >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) >>> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for >>> machines to execute." >>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >

April 13, 2018