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[Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

by Stefan Marr

Hi: I see #linesOfCode in my image to get a basic idea of what I look at in terms of size. Are there any other 'simple' things? I have heard of Moose, but rather to visualize a system and to dig further into it. But I want rather to 'summarize' and 'compare'. Thus, the typical thing we often try to argue: I can do something with 'less effort'. I am not aware of anything that correlates better with effort than flipping a coin or linesOfCode. So, I would go with linesOfCode for the moment... Did anyone do the exercise to have a linesOfCode based on pretty printed sources? Hints to other tools are also appreciate. Thanks Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

by ncalexan

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > > Actually, it seems I cannot. Or at least I do not know how. > > The problem is that Pastell is not mentioned in any group, and the > 'default' group only points to Core. So, how do people load this? > Hi Doru, I load ConfigurationOfXMLSupport as usual, then just loaded the single Pastell package. I had some deprecation errors (which I fixed) and a single failing test (which I didn't fix), so I pushed a new version that you can get using Gofer new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/SDL'; package: 'Pastell'; load. Yours, Nick Alexander -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/xpath-queries-tp4213768p4262071.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

by Tudor Girba

Actually, it seems I cannot. Or at least I do not know how. The problem is that Pastell is not mentioned in any group, and the 'default' group only points to Core. So, how do people load this? Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > We can ask giovanni because he wrote it. > Doru you can use the ConfigurationOfXMLSupport to load it. > > > Stef > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Alain, >> >> By mistake I somehow did not see this mail. Thanks for the pointer. I >> did not know about it. >> >> Looking at the repository, there is no license. Of course, this can be >> just a mistake, but as it stands, it mean it is not open source. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Alain Fischer >> <mailinglist.fischer(a)bluewin.ch> wrote: >>> Do you know Pastell ? >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Pastell.html >>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/Pastell >>> http://blog.corriga.net/2007/06/pastell-xpath-like-library-for-squeak.html >>> http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/01/pharosqueak-and-xml.html >>> >>> >>> On 19 dÃ©c. 11, at 12:43, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is there some solution for supporting XPath queries in Pharo? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] About ConfigurationOfXMLSupport

by Norbert Hartl

Am 29.12.2011 um 23:04 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > Hi guys > > I thought that XMLSupport was about parsing and XMLNode traversal. > So why the configuration contains references to SIXX and Grease Core? > It is called XMLSupport. So it combines xml support technologies (otherwise it should be named ConfigurationOfXMLParsersAndDOM). I think Michael just dropped the name in and nobody changed it. The presence of Sixx and the dependency of Grease is my duty (I'm intentionally not writing 'my faul't). I'm working a lot in GemStone and differences between the dialects are a real pain if you try to develop in pharo and deploy in GemStone. As we also need to exchange data we ported Sixx to GemStone. I've put Sixx in the configuration to keep the development of XML parser and Sixx close because Sixx relies on the interface of xml parser pretty much. As every module is a symbol there is no problem. And Sixx is not loaded by default. Sixx is a serializer/deserializer for XML and therefor is using streams. Streams are one of those fine examples where platform differences can drive you nuts. I couldn't understand all the fuzz of not using sport and preferring grease for seaside but only for seaside etc. I had a hard time dealing with platform subtleties for character encoding (yes, I care!) and streams when it comes to dialects. So I decided to introduce grease and made the GemStone port of Sixx depend on streams and character encoding behaviour of grease (Please sue me!). Dale was so kind to make even GemStone Core to depend on Grease to make Xml loadable by the core. Later I recognized that in pharo terms this is not possible. I had a discussion with Sven because I wanted to have a zinc port for gemstone. But he was more interested to get zinc close to pharo. So the grease way was not an option and the result is the port to gemstone is still incomplete and hard to maintain. Sorry for the long answer but this is just another story of how hard it is to have modular systems where all of the mentioned issues wouldn't be that much of a problem. I would wish that we find a good solution to make sources more interchangable between platforms. I don't mean get rid of the dialect differences (because I don't think it will happen) but to design code in a way that platform subtleties can be compensated in an object oriented way. Norbert

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM warning while loading

by Sean P. DeNigris

laurent laffont wrote > > Is there a nice way to > apply an extension only if the class is here ? > Yes, see http://groups.google.com/group/metacello/browse_thread/thread/3545a13ba07b4… -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TWM-warning-while-loading-tp4257854p4261463.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM warning while loading

by Sean P. DeNigris

laurent laffont wrote > > Is there a nice way to > apply an extension only if the class is here ? > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TWM-warning-while-loading-tp4257854p4261459.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Prematurely ending document on purpose with the SAXParser

by Norbert Hartl

Am 03.01.2012 um 16:14 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > > On 03 Jan 2012, at 13:31, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > >> I wonder what to do in this kind of situations. See >> >> 1) XML is one of the most important packages >> 2) There is no mailng-list for xml ? >> 3) Nobody replies and >> 4) You want latest updates from that package >> >> Any suggestion? > > Maybe you could try to reach someone from the administrators/developers directly, there are quite a few on SS. > I'm one of those listed. But jaayer is the developer of the XML package. He picked up Michaels implementation and extended it. So there is only one guy that can give an elaborate answer. Hernan, I don't really understand your problem. It sounds like you need to mess with the method checkEOD in order to get your use case done. While the real problem is that SAX is about to read the whole file at once. And while this is inappropriate for a lot of cases StAX/pull parsers have been implemented. So the real issue is that there is no StAX/pull parser in smalltalk (or at least in pharo). Norbert

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] why World Menu > System > Software Update missing from Pharo 1.3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > Milan Mimica wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I can quite easily crash the VM when updating pharo 1.4 image (Right click >> -> System -> Software Update). It crashes almost always. VM is Cog r2522. >> > As an aside, I actually went looking for a Software Update menu item in Pharo 1.3 yesterday and could not find it. I notice that it is there in Pharo 1.2.1 and 1.4. Why is it gone from 1.3? > btw, I assume that this updates to the latest trunk ? We remove the menu item because since full image contain packages that we do not know we could load updates that break them. Stef

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Happy new year!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> Don't be too hard to yourself. Don't worry I'm not. Just thinking about life :) > It is really hard to think about it until you develop some severe illness yourself. Or you decide to become a buddhist. > > Norbert > >

Jan. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We can ask giovanni because he wrote it. Doru you can use the ConfigurationOfXMLSupport to load it. Stef On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Alain, > > By mistake I somehow did not see this mail. Thanks for the pointer. I > did not know about it. > > Looking at the repository, there is no license. Of course, this can be > just a mistake, but as it stands, it mean it is not open source. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Alain Fischer > <mailinglist.fischer(a)bluewin.ch> wrote: >> Do you know Pastell ? >> http://www.squeaksource.com/Pastell.html >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/Pastell >> http://blog.corriga.net/2007/06/pastell-xpath-like-library-for-squeak.html >> http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/01/pharosqueak-and-xml.html >> >> >> On 19 dÃ©c. 11, at 12:43, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there some solution for supporting XPath queries in Pharo? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Jan. 4, 2012