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Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

by Edgar J. De Cleene

On 4/15/12 8:50 AM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would not waste time with that... we will improve Pharo constantly, and it > will > be very hard (if not impossible) to keep some kind of compatibility layer on a > binary > code level between Pharo, Squeak and Cuis. > > And what do you get out of it? Wouldn't it be better to use the time to > improve one system > and make sure that system has a future? > > Marcus And if none of actual forks have all as I wish? All have some good and all have some problem for me. It's why try to learn from all here and all in Squeak and from Juan. Don't' sell me the fish, teach me to fishing. Edgar

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: > > And wish made experiments if this Foo.fuel could be loaded into different > fork as Squeak, Cuis having Fuel into. > I would not waste time with that... we will improve Pharo constantly, and it will be very hard (if not impossible) to keep some kind of compatibility layer on a binary code level between Pharo, Squeak and Cuis. And what do you get out of it? Wouldn't it be better to use the time to improve one system and make sure that system has a future? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

by Edgar J. De Cleene

On 4/15/12 8:24 AM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Of course that can not work. .cs is source code, you of course need a compiler > (if Fuel could load cs.gz, it *would be* a compiler). Yes, I know it. I have the .cs.gz for normal load, not for Fuel !!! > What you need to do is to serialize the *Objects* that are code (Classes, > MethodDictioaries, > CompiledMethods) using Fuel. Then the result can be loaded back using Fuel. What I ask is how to have the .fuel of classes as regular objects as Mariano write in his blog. Then , this Foo.fuel could be loaded into target image. Some more granular as Pavel made with complete packages some days ago. And wish made experiments if this Foo.fuel could be loaded into different fork as Squeak, Cuis having Fuel into. > Marcus Thanks ! Edgar

April 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

by Edgar J. De Cleene

Mariano, Martin, Pavel > For example, a class can be considered either a global or a regular object. In > the former case, it will be encoded just its name; in the latter case, the > class will be encoded in detail, with its method dictionary, etc. How you do this ? >the class will be encoded in detail, with its method dictionary, etc. I export most of 1.4 OneClick classes in http://squeakros.org/Pharo%201dot4/ as cs.gz, like to have .fuel for load classes back in target image with no compiler. Thanks in advance Edgar

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: > Mariano, Martin, Pavel > >> For example, a class can be considered either a global or a regular object. In >> the former case, it will be encoded just its name; in the latter case, the >> class will be encoded in detail, with its method dictionary, etc. > > How you do this ? >> the class will be encoded in detail, with its method dictionary, etc. > > I export most of 1.4 OneClick classes in http://squeakros.org/Pharo%201dot4/ > as cs.gz, like to have .fuel for load classes back in target image with no > compiler. Of course that can not work. .cs is source code, you of course need a compiler (if Fuel could load cs.gz, it *would be* a compiler). What you need to do is to serialize the *Objects* that are code (Classes, MethodDictioaries, CompiledMethods) using Fuel. Then the result can be loaded back using Fuel. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some unicode initialization lost

by Guillermo Polito

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?can=2&q=5602&colspec=ID%20Type… On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Guillermo Polito < guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > With this version of the method, now it works :). I've changed it to fill > the tables with the relative numbers it uses, just as the current > initialization. > > I'll open an issue. > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Unicode class>>#parseUnicodeDataFrom: >> >> is the method in charge of initialize the unicode tables telling when a >> char is lowercase, or digit, etc.. >> >> But it has no senders :). >> >> Maybe a first try can be something like the case mappings: >> >> Unicode class>>initializeUnicodeData >> UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar| | result | >> bar value: 'Downloading Unicode data'. >> (result := ZnEasy get: ' >> http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt') isSuccess >> ifFalse: [ ^ self error: 'Download failed' ]. >> bar value: 'Updating Case Mappings'. >> self parseUnicodeDataFrom: result contents readStream ]. >> >> Now, is http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt the >> correct file to load the data from? >> >> BTW, I executed that code in my image and It broke into pieces, so the >> existing initialization may have some problem. Dunno what happens yet. >> >> Guille >> > >

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some unicode initialization lost

by Guillermo Polito

With this version of the method, now it works :). I've changed it to fill the tables with the relative numbers it uses, just as the current initialization. I'll open an issue. On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Guillermo Polito < guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Unicode class>>#parseUnicodeDataFrom: > > is the method in charge of initialize the unicode tables telling when a > char is lowercase, or digit, etc.. > > But it has no senders :). > > Maybe a first try can be something like the case mappings: > > Unicode class>>initializeUnicodeData > UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar| | result | > bar value: 'Downloading Unicode data'. > (result := ZnEasy get: ' > http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt') isSuccess > ifFalse: [ ^ self error: 'Download failed' ]. > bar value: 'Updating Case Mappings'. > self parseUnicodeDataFrom: result contents readStream ]. > > Now, is http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt the correct > file to load the data from? > > BTW, I executed that code in my image and It broke into pieces, so the > existing initialization may have some problem. Dunno what happens yet. > > Guille >

April 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Dr. Geo 12.04d

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hello, Hopefully this release will be fine. And DrGeo comes now with the newer COG VM, so it is impressively blighting fast! Phil, you asked for a splash screen, you got it! As well the auto open of an empty sketch in Workstation edition. In fact, in the refactoring of the plate form code, I forgot to put it back. https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/30591/DrGeo.app-12.04d.zip Btw, are some of you interested to translate DrGeo in Italian, Deutsch, Swedish, Norwich,... If so contact me at hilailre(a)drgeo.eu Thanks -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

April 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Chris Granger - Light Table - a new IDE concept

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 14. 04. 2012 03:37, piÅ¡e Lawson English: > On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> This is really cool: >> >> http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-concept/ >> >> (And the prototype is HTML based) >> >> Sven >> > It is unfortunate that none of the GSoC projects were about creating a > binding for WebKit... Lawson, every web app can have a binding to WebKit (whic is just a web browser engine) on mobile devices if you package it with PhoneGap as a standalone mobile app. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

April 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] Some unicode initialization lost

by Guillermo Polito

Unicode class>>#parseUnicodeDataFrom: is the method in charge of initialize the unicode tables telling when a char is lowercase, or digit, etc.. But it has no senders :). Maybe a first try can be something like the case mappings: Unicode class>>initializeUnicodeData UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar| | result | bar value: 'Downloading Unicode data'. (result := ZnEasy get: ' http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt') isSuccess ifFalse: [ ^ self error: 'Download failed' ]. bar value: 'Updating Case Mappings'. self parseUnicodeDataFrom: result contents readStream ]. Now, is http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt the correct file to load the data from? BTW, I executed that code in my image and It broke into pieces, so the existing initialization may have some problem. Dunno what happens yet. Guille

April 15, 2012