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Re: [Pharo-project] SSO - CAS Client in Smalltalk ?

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

Salut, Le 14 mai 2012 Ã 19:58, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > Bonjour CÃ©drick, StÃ©pahane, > > On 14 May 2012, at 19:44, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler wrote: > >> I'll let you know. >> >> CAS seems to be kind of standard for high organization SSO. It's just sad I didn't thought of it for Google Summer of Code. This could have been an opportunity. >> There's also ESUG. But maybe others should say of they find such an implementation useful (and not only me :) ). > > Yes, these are interesting add-on projects. The basis (Pharo+Zn+Zdc) is there, I don't think these are major undertakings, but they can get stuck on some small seemingly insurmountable detail. Step 1 is to understand the specification and the foundation to start from. Looking at implementations in other languages helps. Yes, I've had a look at PHP and Ruby ones but I cannot at this moment dig more into it. > > Regards, > > Sven > > PS: CÃ©drick, I remember the OAuth (Dropbox) stuff that you were trying. Any chance to start that again ? ;-) > Uhm, I fear it hasn't moved from what you've seen + what we've lost (squeaksource versions lost). The upload stuff wasn't working if I remember well. I may start again if useful but I cannot at this time + CAS would be my priority now if I could :( <OT - killers apps ?> Just for background, if I experiment that, it's because in our university, they plan to set up a Numeric Environment (ENT in french). Based on uPortal, called E-Sup. I find it sucks :) + it's expensive to deploy and configure (around 30kâ¬ !!!). This is Java ! What's working now is only CAS+LDAP. If I had CAS in Pharo, I could develop applications say in Seaside that could be integrated in this environment. I think something like E-Sup (uPortal) could be a great project in Pharo but... this is a long one. Maybe ESUG ? ObjectFusion ? :-) For management in uni, they use OS app suite called Coktail (Scholarix and friends...) and these tools are developed in web objects (woa), the Apple no more supported framework ! This is also an opportunity to develop applications in Pharo because Coktail seems alone in this field (being open source) </OT> Cheers, CÃ©drick > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > >

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Kernel 2.0 Reload by Fuel activated

by Yanni Chiu

On 15/05/12 3:21 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > The resultant image is not production-ready because Fuel Package > Loader currently doesn't work with changes file. What does this mean? Is Fuel Package Loader supposed to append corresponding source to the changes file, when compiled methods are loaded via fuel? Shouldn't that be optional? This setup reminds me of .SLL files used in VSE (Visual Smalltalk Enterprise). You could start with a "frozen" base image, and on startup, load all your application code through .SLL "library units". (I can't remember whether or not you could dynamically link/unlink the .SLL packages; I think you could.)

May 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] Problem with Zinc?

by Damien Cassou

The following always freezess my Pharo 2.0 image: ZnClient new systemPolicy; multiPartFormDataEntity; http; host: 'http://code.google.com'; path: '/p/pharo/issues/entry.do'; queryAt: 'summary' put: 'A summary text', Date today asString; queryAt: 'comment' put: 'A short comment'; post -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] OpenID/Oauth library (was SSO - CAS Client in Smalltalk ?)

by Yanni Chiu

On 15/05/12 3:00 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Dne 15. 05. 2012 00:01, piÅ¡e StÃ©phane Ducasse: > >>> Just FYI, me and Cloudfork guys are just finishing the OpenID 2.0/OAuth >>> 2.0 support for Iliad and Aida, based on Cloudfork SSO [1]. On Pharo and >>> VW. On Pharo Zync with Zodiak SSL is used. Current goal is to develop a >>> Google Docs API support. >> >> Hi janko >> >> is the library available as a library? I mean not linked to aida or iliad? > > Idea actually is to have WebCloudSSO library as independent as possible, > but not without some web server/web framework, because OpenID/OAuth rely > heavily on HTTP redirects. > > WebCloudSSO library currently works on Aida, now I'll start adapting it > to Iliad, later someone can adapt it to Seaside or even to plain web > server like Zync. Maybe it will even come under Cloudfork trademark at > the end, we will see. Cloudfork otherwise already have a Seaside OpenID > example. Have I understood this right? You started with CloudforkSSO, "ported" it to Iliad and Aida (i.e. WebCloudSSO), and in future WebCloudSSO may merge back into CloudforkSSO. Was it just easier/faster to do it this way, rather than split the Seaside dependent parts out of CloudforkSSO? Is there any additional OpenID/OAuth functionality in WebCloudSSO, beyond what was in CloudforkSSO?

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus small bug? report

by Fabrizio Perin

Here the attachment :) 2012/5/15 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > I'm using the latest Moose version and I noticed that the classes in the > Nautilus browser are weirdly indented. I found that in some of my code > classes and also, for instance, in Nutilus itself. In the attachment you > see PluggableThreePhaseButtonMorph that is a subclass of > ThreePhaseButtonMorph, but the nesting suggests that the class > PluggableThreePhaseButtonMorph is a subclass of a subclass of > ThreePhaseButtonMorph. > > Don't know if it is a bug or a wanted behaviour. I believe the first. > > Regards, > Fabrizio >

May 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] Nautilus small bug? report

by Fabrizio Perin

Hi, I'm using the latest Moose version and I noticed that the classes in the Nautilus browser are weirdly indented. I found that in some of my code classes and also, for instance, in Nutilus itself. In the attachment you see PluggableThreePhaseButtonMorph that is a subclass of ThreePhaseButtonMorph, but the nesting suggests that the class PluggableThreePhaseButtonMorph is a subclass of a subclass of ThreePhaseButtonMorph. Don't know if it is a bug or a wanted behaviour. I believe the first. Regards, Fabrizio

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on Stackexchange

by H. Hirzel

On 5/15/12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On May 15, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > >> On 15 May 2012 12:10, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> With the dev mailing list slowly getting out of control ;) we should >>>> think of >>>> means of communication with the masses! >>>> >>>> I created stackexchange proposal which needs YOUR support: >>>> >>>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/40717/pharo?referrer=gXC4FWspxSud… >>>> >>>> we need now: >>>> - 60 Followers >>>> - 40 questions with some answers! >>>> >>> It seems that this will not work: someone is tagging all questions as >>> "can be asked on Stackoverflow" >>> and requests to close the area. >>> >>> So I think we will have to install our own thing instead. >> >> If what you want is something other than a QA site, absolutely. >> >> If you want a QA place, I don't see why people can't just use SO: >> there are already 113 questions tagged "pharo" there, and all people >> need do is... just ask your question there. It's one more thing you >> don't need to write/install/maintain, and one LESS thing for you to >> track: lists, RSS feeds, newsgroups, QA sites, ... > > > I did not have an account on StackOverflow until 1 hour ago. > It's one more thing in itself, and I don't see how a big mess of questions > helps of all topics in the world will help us. > > We need somethign focussed. Here it is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/pharo :-) --Hannes > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > >

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on Stackexchange

by Sean P. DeNigris

Max Leske wrote > > we'll all have to do it *and* track new questions Exactly. Whatever we decide, we'll need commitment from our community, esp. the key devs, to monitor the new venue with the same attention as this list. When I'm deep into the system, I'm reluctant to move my questions even to the Pharo Users list because there's only a handful of people that can answer and I don't know if they'll see them. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-on-Stackexchange-tp4630271p4630305.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on Stackexchange

by Marcus Denker

On May 15, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: >> >> I did not have an account on StackOverflow until 1 hour ago. >> It's one more thing in itself, and I don't see how a big mess of questions >> helps of all topics in the world will help us. >> >> We need somethign focussed. > > http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/pharo would probably be exactly > what you'd want, possibly with > http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/smalltalk just to catch non-Pharo > questions that could be answered from a Pharo perspective. > > But yes, I guess there is a cost in that you need an SO account to ask > questions. Having paid that cost long ago, I didn't think about that. > To me it feels like if every open source project would just use one Bug tracker because there are tags... while I already thing that I want sub-projects on the current one. I personally don't think that tagging subsumes grouping. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on Stackexchange

by Max Leske

Apps can only be viewed for your profile (you have to sign in). So the URL would be: http://stackoverflow.com/users/apps/<your user id> +1 for SO Max On 15.05.2012, at 13:44, Camillo Bruni wrote: > too bad :) I like stuff to be cleaned up and separated... > > though stackoverflow isn't that bad either, and if you properly > define your preference tags it's almost like the mailing list ;) > > We simply have to stick to the proper tags: > pharo > pharo1.3 > pharo1.4 > pharo2.0 > > + maybe the concerning tool > > there are a couple of nice apps: > > http://stackoverflow.com/users/apps/174541 > > and I strongly vouch for using SO instead of this mailinglist for > all sorts of questions. the mailing list seems to be ok for discussions > (which many people enjoy here). > > > On 2012-05-15, at 13:30, Max Leske wrote: >> This is the request to merge / close the Pharo proposal: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5273/pharo-is-a-developme… >> >> >> >> On 15.05.2012, at 13:25, Max Leske wrote: >> >>> >>> On 15.05.2012, at 13:18, Frank Shearar wrote: >>> >>>> On 15 May 2012 12:10, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> With the dev mailing list slowly getting out of control ;) we should think of >>>>>> means of communication with the masses! >>>>>> >>>>>> I created stackexchange proposal which needs YOUR support: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/40717/pharo?referrer=gXC4FWspxSud… >>>>>> >>>>>> we need now: >>>>>> - 60 Followers >>>>>> - 40 questions with some answers! >>>>>> >>>>> It seems that this will not work: someone is tagging all questions as >>>>> "can be asked on Stackoverflow" >>>>> and requests to close the area. >>>>> >>>>> So I think we will have to install our own thing instead. >>>> >>> >>> Ok, so should we make everyone go to SO from now on (providing the question is not a question for the list)? I support the idea but we'll all have to do it *and* track new questions. Otherwise we'll end up in a situation where noone will know where to ask / answer questions related to Pharo. >>> >>> >>>> If what you want is something other than a QA site, absolutely. >>>> >>>> If you want a QA place, I don't see why people can't just use SO: >>>> there are already 113 questions tagged "pharo" there, and all people >>>> need do is... just ask your question there. It's one more thing you >>>> don't need to write/install/maintain, and one LESS thing for you to >>>> track: lists, RSS feeds, newsgroups, QA sites, ... >>>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org >>>>> http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

May 15, 2012