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[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14443

by Marcus Denker

14443 ----- Issue 5833: More robust allSuperclassesIncluding: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5833 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Place to sleep Lille?

by Marcus Denker

On May 21, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Hi, > > Hmm. I'm a bit late to make a hotel reservation. Most hotels seem to be > booked out. Anyone know an alternative? I'm arriving by train on wednesday. > Couch would do. Sadly my couch is already booked... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 21, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13329

by Marcus Denker

13329 ----- Issue 4617: More error tolerant startup http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4617 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 21, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fwd: CFP IWST'2012

by Marcus Denker

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: LoÃ¯c Lagadec <loic.lagadec(a)univ-brest.fr> Subject: [Esug-list] CFP IWST'2012 DearÂ colleagues & Friends, We apologize for multiple reception of this announcement. The International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies, is a European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) Conference joint event, that focuses on research activities - namely academic creative work undertaken on smalltalk use, and more generally on object technologies. IWST was launched in 2009, in Brest, during the 17th ESUG Conference. The second edition took place in Barcelona, and the third edition was held in 2011 at the heart of historic Edinburgh. Next edition will be in Gent, Begium this summer (28th of august). ESUG gathers groups of professionals and hobbyists who share an interest in the Smalltalk programming languages and related technologies. The goal of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk. IWST contributes to triggering discussions and exchanges of ideas. As always, we make a point to have a very constructive paper review process that aims to provide in-depth comments and suggestions to all of them (no one-liners!) This makes it ideal to disseminate new research directions, and is a good venue for early stage PhD students to receive feedback on their work. In addition, we intent to invite best papers to a journal special issue as we did last year. Looking forward to your submissions, and to meeting you in Gent! Best regards, LoÃ¯c Lagadec & Alain Plantec Co-chairs of IWST International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies 2012 August 28th, 2012 Gent, Belgium. ESUG 2012 Smalltalk joint event Important dates Submission deadline: June 15, 2012 Notification deadline: July 15, 2012 All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL, and the authors of the best papers will be invited to submit an extended version to a journal special issue (To Be Confirmed). Goals and scopes The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. Participants are invited to submit research articles. We will not enforce any length restriction. However we expect papers of two kinds: Short position papers describing emerging ideas. Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research results. Topics We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as: Aspect-oriented programming, Design patterns, Experience reports, Frameworks, Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, Interaction with other languages, Meta-programming and Meta-modeling, Tools Links home page: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2012/International-Workshop---IWS… submission: http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=iwst2012 Publication Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm. This site also contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions. Program chairs LoÃ¯c Lagadec and Alain Plantec (LabSticc CACS/CNRS, University of Brest, France) Program committee Gabriela ArevaloÂ Â Â Universidad Nacional de Quilmes, Argentina Alexandre BergelÂ Â Â University of Chile Andrew P. BlackÂ Â Â Portland State University, US Marcus DenkerÂ Â Â Rmod, INRIA Lille - Nord Europe, France Luc FabresseÂ Â Â Ecole des Mines de Douai, France, Tudor GirbaÂ Â Â CompuGroup Medical Schweiz, Switzerland Andy KellensÂ Â Â Software Languages Lab, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium MickaÃ«l KerboeufÂ Â Â LabSticc, University of Brest, France Jannik LavalÂ Â Â LaBRI, University of Bordeaux, France Mariano Martinez PeckÂ Â Â Ecole des Mines de Douai, France, Lukas RenggliÂ Â Â Google, Switzerland Jorge RessiaÂ Â Â Software Composition Group, University of Bern, Switzerland Bastian SteinertÂ Â Â HPI, Software Architecture Group, Germany Hernan WilkinsonÂ Â Â 10Pines, IT consultancy, Buenos Aires, Argentina Roel WuytsÂ Â Â IMEC Leuven, Belgium _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- -- Marcus DenkerÂ --Â denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Browsing long methods

by Fernando Olivero

yes, you are right, we should improve Morphic, and Gaucho should be released soon! Regarding cleaning up PluggableTextMorph, i think a better solution would be to rewrite it, i've coded NewTextMorph once (a minimal version). Instead of trying to fix an complicated Morph. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Yes but if we do not improve the system and gaucho is not usable by other than you > then at the end we got nothing so the solution is > Â Â Â Â to improve the system > Â Â Â Â and eventually be ready to switch to something better but not before :) > > Stef > >> PluggableTextMorph and friends Â are a mess, i've tried to clean it up >> once and found it to be really hard. >> >> I will be showing the support for text in Shapes ( the UI framework >> used by Gaucho), which lays Â out text using Pango, and renderers it >> using Athens (with a Cairo backend). Simple and yet powerful, thanks >> to Pango. >> >> Fernando >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Guillermo Polito >> <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Nice, the paragraph is calculated about 7~8 times in a pluggable text morph (depending on the user). >>> >>> And since the composition of a paragraph for a long method takes long (some minutes), it takes 7 times to render it (I've never was able to wait for it. Â I always lose my patience before). >>> >>> Guille >>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Browsing a long method (lets say, of ~270KB of sourcecode) just hangs the image. >>> >>> Interrupting doesn't even give me control over my image again. Â It does no open a debugger, but info is printed in stdout, so I assume that my UIProcess died, but the event fetcher is still alive... >>> >>> One of the processes that get interrupted prints: >>> >>> SmallIdentityDictionary(SmallDictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: >>> MorphExtension>>valueOfProperty:ifAbsent: >>> MorphExtension>>valueOfProperty: >>> ScrollBar(Morph)>>valueOfProperty: >>> ScrollBar(Morph)>>theme >>> ScrollBar>>normalThumbFillStyle >>> ScrollBar>>adoptGradientColor: >>> ScrollBar>>sliderColor: >>> ScrollBar>>adoptPaneColor: >>> PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(Morph)>>adoptPaneColor: in Block: [:m | m adoptPaneColor: paneColor] >>> >>> So I just changed #adoptPaneColor: in ScrollBar to do nothing, and I am able to interrupt again. So it makes me think here it is where the UIProcess gets killed... >>> >>> Now, for the browser stuff, it seems that TextComposer>>#composeAllLines never finishes. Â I'm still investigating, but any clue is helpful :). >>> >>> Guille >>> >> >

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Place to sleep Lille

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi Stef, Thanks. The Formule 1 still had a room (others didn't). What's the place to meet on wednesday evening for a beer & talk? I'll arrive 21.00 or so. Stephan

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Place to sleep Lille?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

There are a couple of hotel: opera Agora Hotel 14 Rue du Molinel, 59000 Lille 03 20 31 55 52 â Â· agorahotel.com st maurice HÃ´tel Saint-Maurice 8 Parvis St Maurice, 59800 Lille 03 20 06 27 40 â Â· hotelsaintmaurice.com 1 HÃ´tel de la Paix 46 Bis r Paris 59800 Lille 03 20 54 63 93 Hotel du moulin d'or â¢ 03 66 88 05 65 15 r Molinel 59800 Lille else you also have formule 1 (mons en baroeul). av SabliÃ¨re 59370 MONS EN BAROEUL this is close to my place (three stops from flandres) 08 91 70 53 18 let us know Stef > Try this one: > > Hotel ibis Lille OpÃ©ra > 21 Rue Lepelletier, 59000 Lille, France > +33 3 20 06 21 95 > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry >

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Browsing long methods

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes but if we do not improve the system and gaucho is not usable by other than you then at the end we got nothing so the solution is to improve the system and eventually be ready to switch to something better but not before :) Stef > PluggableTextMorph and friends are a mess, i've tried to clean it up > once and found it to be really hard. > > I will be showing the support for text in Shapes ( the UI framework > used by Gaucho), which lays out text using Pango, and renderers it > using Athens (with a Cairo backend). Simple and yet powerful, thanks > to Pango. > > Fernando > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Guillermo Polito > <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Nice, the paragraph is calculated about 7~8 times in a pluggable text morph (depending on the user). >> >> And since the composition of a paragraph for a long method takes long (some minutes), it takes 7 times to render it (I've never was able to wait for it. I always lose my patience before). >> >> Guille >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Browsing a long method (lets say, of ~270KB of sourcecode) just hangs the image. >> >> Interrupting doesn't even give me control over my image again. It does no open a debugger, but info is printed in stdout, so I assume that my UIProcess died, but the event fetcher is still alive... >> >> One of the processes that get interrupted prints: >> >> SmallIdentityDictionary(SmallDictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: >> MorphExtension>>valueOfProperty:ifAbsent: >> MorphExtension>>valueOfProperty: >> ScrollBar(Morph)>>valueOfProperty: >> ScrollBar(Morph)>>theme >> ScrollBar>>normalThumbFillStyle >> ScrollBar>>adoptGradientColor: >> ScrollBar>>sliderColor: >> ScrollBar>>adoptPaneColor: >> PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(Morph)>>adoptPaneColor: in Block: [:m | m adoptPaneColor: paneColor] >> >> So I just changed #adoptPaneColor: in ScrollBar to do nothing, and I am able to interrupt again. So it makes me think here it is where the UIProcess gets killed... >> >> Now, for the browser stuff, it seems that TextComposer>>#composeAllLines never finishes. I'm still investigating, but any clue is helpful :). >> >> Guille >> >

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemNavigationTest>>setUp looks quite strange to me

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> >> >> The problem is that somehow the test is not silent. Executing that test >> without that makes announcements to be raised with fake classes created on >> test time, and people subscribed to those announcements break. For example, >> Nautilus+Rpackage are not expecting classes that are not packaged with >> RPackage. >> > > I don't know anything of Rpackage, nor browsed any code, but it sounds > like a requirement for Rpackage : > being robust to unpackaged clases/methods. Yes but the problem is not there. Nautilus got event that it should not get and it is checking that a package is created in RPackageOrganizer (but the test does it on purpose on an empty organizer). So we identified the problem and we will look at it after 15h30.

May 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-consortium] We need your Pharo successes

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks! On May 21, 2012, at 1:13 PM, garduino wrote: > http://forum.world.st/file/n4631140/ArduinoSoftwareWebPostAutomation.pdf > ArduinoSoftwareWebPostAutomation.pdf > > ok, check it now. > > Cheers. > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/We-need-your-Pharo-successes-tp4628432p4631140.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

May 21, 2012