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Re: [Pharo-project] Integrated interactive tutorial?

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Malcolm Macgregor <mdmacgr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Once you have placed it in the download image I'd be happy to download the > image again - thereby killing two birds with one stone (i.e. getting the > tutorial for me, and testing the download for everyone!) That won't happen until next Pharo 1.4 release > Then again - I'm not sure I want the interactive tutorial (IT)! > Why have a separate IT and PEB? I will assume you are talking about PBE. They serve different users and different moment in time. I can read PBE on the beach or in bed before sleeping. Reading PBE is a long term process that will give you a basic understanding of everything in Pharo. The interactive tutorial is more something to start playing with Pharo when you just heard about it and you want to try. > The collaboractiv PEB enables readers to actively collaborate in fixing the > bugs in the documentation. yes. If you want, you can help by writing on the collabor'active book. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Where is the PBE VM?

by Malcolm Macgregor

Didn't quite work - the image launched but an "Error: Invalid utf8 input detected" ST dialog box was thrown up. Why not ditch the PBE image and update the documentation to fit the latest image using PEB collaboractiv? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Where-is-the-PBE-VM-tp4635676p4635688.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptManager config in 1.4

by Ben Coman

Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Problem is who validates the packages? (we are working in some automatization here, but it will take time) > For example: ConfigurationOfSeaside30 in MetaRepoForPharo14 does not loads well (since it loads a stripped version of OB, if you have Nautilus it fails and if not it breaks Shout). > It is easy to fix, but nobody seems to want... > > Esteban > One way to deal with this is like Wordpress Addons... For example, see the compatibility sidebar bottom right at http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-super-cache/ > On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 20 Jun 2012, at 10:01, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> >>>> and wonder why we dont use a >>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20. >>>> >>> We can use it too for now. >>> What is missing is the process behind >>> >> Let's use that then: it is important that during 2.0 development, you can easily load (validated) metacello configs; many of us are using 2.0 daily, as in eating our own dogfood, if metacello configs + browser are the way forward, we should start using that now. >> >> Sven >> > > > >

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Integrated interactive tutorial?

by Malcolm Macgregor

Once you have placed it in the download image I'd be happy to download the image again - thereby killing two birds with one stone (i.e. getting the tutorial for me, and testing the download for everyone!) Then again - I'm not sure I want the interactive tutorial (IT)! Why have a separate IT and PEB? Does IT have all the material in PEB? Is it sensible to have an interactive tutorial inside Pharo? The collaboractiv PEB enables readers to actively collaborate in fixing the bugs in the documentation. How can you do this with the interactive tutorial? If IT & PEB cover the same material how do you manage version control and synchronization? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Integrated-interactive-tutorial-tp4635662p4635685.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] jenkins builds are restored

by Esteban Lorenzano

both Pharo 2.0 and testing Esteban

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Where is the PBE VM?

by Damien Cassou

Hi Malcolm, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Malcolm Macgregor <mdmacgr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > At http://www.pharo-project.org/home under "Get started now" is the link "Get > the Pharo By Example book..." On downloading, the zip file does not contain > the VM. Also, P1.4 VM (Windows) does not work with the PBE image. Are you talking about the zip file you can download from the PBE website? I agree it does not include the VM and that's probably a mistake because new VMs are not compatible with this old image. Could you please try the following link and report success/failure? https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/31048/PBE-OneClick-1.1.app.zip Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

June 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] Why a separate book image and development image? Why PDF?

by Malcolm Macgregor

The PBE book is ambiguous about using the old PBE image or the latest development image. Suggestion: get new readers to use *only* the latest image. Also, use the collaboractiv book as the main tutorial documentation, rather than PDF book. Then the problem with documentation becoming dated will be solved. If a new reader finds the documentation doesn't agree with the software (after an update) then he can flag the problem........ I guess this is why you have a collaboractiv book!? So, I'm sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs; look at my comment as a vote for the collaboractiv book, and for it being placed up front. PDF is so 20th century...

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub

by petton.nicolas＠gmail.com

"Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> writes: > My proposal: > ============ > Since Metacello is standard these days I would really welcome a > "ConfigurationOfSmalltalkHub" in MetacelloRepository which > would: > > - allow the code to load > - allow to see which Pharo version is used > - allow to run it locally to do modifications > - allow to follow stable releases and development progress > just by looking into the configuration > > and in then end allow to contribute to the project. Indeed, a Metacello configuration is really needed. I'll do it ASAP and get back to you once done. Cheers, Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

June 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20144

by Esteban Lorenzano

20144 ----- Issue 6055: [BUG] New System Progress doesn't work when headless http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6055

June 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Worskpace question

by Fernando Olivero

I don't think its related to the processes priority. Can you provide more code of the DrGeoCanvas>>#initialize ? Because, the following works just fine, by evaluating the first two lines, or the complete script. m := Morph new. m openInWorld. m color: Color red. m extent: 300@300. m delete Fernando On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Hilaire Fer nandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)edu.ge.ch> wrote: > DHello, > > I have a question regarding the Workspace when you execute code from there. > > Let me show with an example: > > I want to execute code instantiating an empty DrGeo sketch (a morph) > then create programmatically content: > > > |canvas| > canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. > canvas segment: 5@4 to: 10@20. > canvas vector: 0@0 to: 2@2. > ... > > The line with DrGeoCanavas creates and opens a new morph of a DrGeo sketch. > > My problem is: the morph only shows up on screen when the whole > Workspace code is executed. I would like the canvas morph to show up > when instantiated then get the construction code done step by step in > the screen. > > Is the workspace code executed with higher priority than the user > interface thread? > > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu > >

June 20, 2012