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Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Norbert, Ooops you are right! RSR is an object replication framework that replicates objects between Pharo, Dolphin, and GemStone images. Kurt Kilpela will be giving a talk at ESUG this year so if you are going to ESUG you can get more details right from the horseâs s mouth:) Dale [1] https://downloads.gemtalksystems.com/docs/GemStone64/3.6.x/GS64-GemBuilderf… Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:21 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > ï»¿Hi Dale, > > thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. > > Hope to see you at ESUG, > > Norbert > >> Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: >> >> Norbert, >> Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> To all Omnibase and Monibase users. >>> >>> It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from >>> >>> https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase >>> >>> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. >>> >>> As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Norbert >

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Tim Mackinnon

That is unfortunate - is there any way to get the original author to change his mind (I'm guessing they reached out in a huff - which is understandable if this came up unexpectedly)? It seems unfortunate effort to rewrite something, and from an Omnibase perspective, I can't imagine there is sustainable money to be made from future sales of the product (in a world of so many databases more widely available), however offering services on top (which I'm sure the original author is in the best place to do) would seem like a better aim instead of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Of course he is the one that can ultimately make the call, but worth double checking I would say. Tim On Mon, 8 Aug 2022, at 2:18 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > To all Omnibase and Monibase users. > > It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase > > I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. > > As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. > > regards, > > Norbert

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Norbert Hartl

Hi Dale, thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. Hope to see you at ESUG, Norbert > Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: > > Norbert, > Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... > > Dale > > [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication <https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > To all Omnibase and Monibase users. > > It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase <https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase> > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase <https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase> > > I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. > > As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. > > regards, > > Norbert

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Norbert, Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... Dale [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > To all Omnibase and Monibase users. > > It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the > database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright > and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the > Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase > > I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, > copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We > only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go > away. > > As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how > much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can > replace Omnibase. > > regards, > > Norbert >

Aug. 8, 2022

Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Norbert Hartl

To all Omnibase and Monibase users. It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase <https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase> and https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase <https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. regards, Norbert

Aug. 8, 2022

Re: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: first transformation test

by Shaping

I got about 6 seconds into the first file-in. Iâm running empty transforms on all packages. The problem Iâm having is using this Syntax error to determine where in the file-in the problem occurred so that I can know the package whose transform needs work. I was expecting more context. So Iâm poking around in STCommandLineHandler next with breakpoints. Open to suggestions. Shaping. Iâll make my first run soon on my first package. Iâll do one package extra each time I run, building up the code. Each package will have its own <package name>Transform method, per the examples. Iâm not sure how to build these methods, except to assume that rewriting the pharo base methods is never wrong. Iâll file-in the resulting .st file to see what breaks. Then Iâll go back to the package whose .st source is not loading completely and add additional fixes (class keeps, base methods rewrites if needed and missing, method code body replacements if needed) to its transform method until it loads completely on the next run. That could take a while. Is that what you do in practice? Perfect! That is exactly how I do it. I start with an empty PackageChange. Then I add incrementally transforms until the code loads - phase one. This has been achieved for PDFtalk with the first release on GitHub. The second and final phase is to make all tests run (including the new to-write tests). This can take a while, because all syntactic and semantic differences must be addressed. Here, some cross-fertilization is possible. Yeah, and I have to be thorough finally about all my SUnit testsâ¦ The nice thing is, that the system is always telling you what to do. In fact, at first there are so many issues that it is a lot of fun to browse them and chose a nice one. Always the nicest or easiest bug first :-). Right. Iâm assuming the code writer is taking into account inter-package dependencies in order to get the load order right. Yes. Shaping From: christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Friday, 5 August, 2022 05:53 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges The full project in which the mentioned method used looks like this: PDFtalkProject ^ProjectChange name: #PDFtalk source: ((OrderedCollection new) add: (Package name: #Values); add: (Bundle name: #PDFtalk); add: (Package name: #'Values Testing'); add: (Bundle name: #'PDFtalk Testing'); add: (Package name: #'PDFtalk Demonstrations'); yourself) changes: self pdftalkPackageChanges nameMapping: (NameMapping keep: ((OrderedCollection new) add: #{Smalltalk.PDF}; add: #{PostScript.PSDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFObject}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFArray}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFStream}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFString}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDate}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFTypeDefinition}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFEncoder}; yourself) classToNames: ((Valuemap new) add: #{SubscriptOutOfBoundsError} -> #Error; add: #{NonIntegerIndexError} -> #Error; add: #{NotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; add: #{KeyNotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; yourself) namespaceToPrefixes: ((Valuemap new) add: #{Smalltalk.PostScript} -> 'PS'; add: #{Smalltalk.PDFtalk} -> 'Pt'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts} -> 'PtF'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts.OpenType} -> 'PtOT'; yourself)) In the #source: are the bundles and packages to be transformed. The #changes: (your method) specify the transforms (PackageChange) for each package explicitly. Only packages contain code and therefore, only packages need the code transformations. Bundles are transformed without transformations. (Well, the code for pre-, post- whatever blocks are transformed with the class name mappings rules). So, the mapping from packages to the corresponding PackageChange has to be stated somehow. Using a dictionary (Valuemap) for this seems also natural. The only change I might like is to use pragmas to tag the PackageChange returning methods with âtheirâ package like <package: âValues Toolsâ> or so. Putting the package reference into the PackageChange is not a good idea, because all those Objects need to be created before your can find out which package is affected. (Ok, I am creating all PackageChange objects tooâ¦). Happy hacking, Christian Von: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2022 03:26 An: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges This method pdftalkPackageChanges ^(Valuemap new) add: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform; add: 'PostScript' -> self PostScriptTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basics' -> self PDFtalkBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Typing' -> self PDFtalkTypingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basic Objects' -> self PDFtalkBasicObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Streams' -> self PDFtalkStreamsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Data Structures' -> self PDFtalkDataStructuresTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Parsing' -> self PDFtalkParsingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Colour' -> self PDFtalkColourTransform; add: 'PostScript Fonts' -> self PostScriptFontsTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Basics' -> self PDFtalkFontsBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Type1' -> self PDFtalkFontsType1Transform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts OpenType' -> self PDFtalkFontsOpenTypeTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts' -> self PDFtalkFontsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics Operations' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsOperationsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk XObjects' -> self PDFtalkXObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Images' -> self PDFtalkImagesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Files' -> self PDFtalkFilesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Document' -> self PDFtalkDocumentTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Rendering' -> self PDFtalkRenderingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Shading' -> self PDFtalkShadingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Interactive Features' -> self PDFtalkInteractiveFeaturesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Deploying' -> self PDFtalkDeployingTransform; add: 'Values Testing' -> self ValuesTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk test resources' -> self PDFtalkTestResourcesTransform; add: 'PostScript Testing' -> self PostScriptTestingTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit Testing' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts tests' -> self PDFtalkFontsTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk tests' -> self PDFtalkTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Demonstrations' -> self PDFtalkDemonstrationsTransform; yourself effectively looks like the head transform structure for a project, in this case all the PDFtalk stuff, which includes Values and Postscript. This is not exactly a bundle idea, is it? Itâs project spread across potentially many bundles and packages. Iâll start coding my transform with a similar method, and work down toward the details. Takes a bit to get used to all the correct, yet dangling VW methods that are useless in VW, but which will become new code in the target image and there no longer appear to be dangling (with syntax highlighting aberrations). Odd looking but completely by design. Shaping From: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Sent: Thursday, 4 August, 2022 19:18 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: Pharo100 fileOutValues I will look, although this kind of always available on demand thing is too disruptive for meâ¦ I know what you mean. I try be disciplined about it. I really like to be able to fix typos, because there are almost always typos. But e-mail is okay. So that little example is a test that shows how the transformation is done. It converts just package Values to a Pharo-compatible file-in. My task is then to queue a bunch of ProjectChange instances like this one: SmalltalkTransform.Pharo100>> ValuesProject ^ProjectChange name: #Values source: (Array with: (Package name: #Values)) changes: (Valuemap with: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform) Exactly but for my own packages. No bundles are transformed (just their contained packages) because Pharo doesnât have bundles. Is that right? No, bundles are handled. For real examples, you need to look at the PDFtalk transforms. Yes, Pharo does not have a concept of bundles (ordered aggregates of packages). Instead it relies on a naming convention for packages. That convention is honored in the fileout, so that packages will be partly grouped in Pharo according to the category prefix. For each VW-package, one Pharo package is created. A bundle itself is also represented as Pharo package with one class About<bundlename> with class methods for the metadata of the bundle, including a method giving you the ordered list of component packages. So, all contents and metadata of packages and bundles are transformed for Pharo. No code or info gets lost. Okay. Is method ValuesTransform ^PackageChange ignoredNames: #(#{Smalltalk.GeneralBindingReference}) bridgeClasses: (Valuemap with: #{Timestamp} -> #DateAndTime with: #{Smalltalk.ColorValue} -> #Color) localChanges: self valuesLocalTransform extensions: (Array with: (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) with: (SystemClassChange className: #TextStream instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #nextPutAllText: code: #_ph_nextPutAllText:)))) written specifically for that package? I would think it applies to all packages. I see some expected mappings like Timestamp to DateAndTime. Yes, this method returns a PackageChange Value describing the transformations needed to create the Pharo fileout for this specific package (inspect the return value for the fully expanded Value). Methods exist with the same name for other Smalltalks. Depending on the dialect (or version of a dialect), the transforms are different. Squeak and Pharo are quite similar, because they share a common history, but VA or Gemstone need quite different transforms. So, in general, for each package, there is one such method/Value for each target Smalltalk/version. Okay. I do not dare to extract commonalities before the machinery is really robust and stable. For now everything is neatly separate and self-contained (and probably it will stay that way, although there are lots of duplications). The mapping of class names is the responsibility of the enclosing ProjectChange Value where you define the list of source bundles/packages to transform, the PackageChanges for all packages and the mapping of âglobalâ names. (The bridge classes above are no renames, but a subclass relationship (is-a) to avoid renamings. The new class Timestamp will be created as subclass of DateAndTime which has almost the same semantics. Therefore, I can still use Timestamp which will be basically a DateAndTime now.) Okay. There is still a technical challenge here. Currently, a ProjectChange need to include all prerequisites (Values is part of the PDFtalk project and will be transformed with it). A ProjectWriter, which coordinates the transform, keeps track of the mappings when they are created (either explicitly or through a namespace renaming â see implementers of #PDFtalkProject). I would like to have this more modular: the mappings from the Values transformation should be persistently saved, so that other transformation projects can just use them, instead of including the sources into one own project. For this, I need to have renamings local to a package (where they first occur), not global on the project level. Right. For Values and Values Tests and Values Tools this works, because there are no mappings in the Values package. What about conversion of VW arrays to Pharo literal arrays? How is that done? (I think you mean dynamic arrays like {1. âabcâ size. 42} in which evaluation happens (in contrast to literal things which can be resolved already by the compiler). Yes, dynamic arrays. Not! Since a while, VW also has dynamic arrays, but not in VW 8.3 â the last publicly available version. Okay, I was wondering when that would happen. I will not shut out those users, because âopen-sourceâ would be quite absurd, if it is only available for paying customers. In 8.3, the compiler does not accept that syntax and therefore, there is no easy way to represent this in replacement code. So, no. It is not possible until Cincom releases an public version which can handle that. Okay. I recall that one of the Smalltalks (I donât recall which) had Stream semantics differing from VWâs. â¦ I just checked. VWâs #upTo: method includes the object and leaves the index after it, and Pharoâs excludes the object and leaves the index at the object. So that is some major breakage if we donât correct it. Can it be done automatically? Yes, these are the usual porting challenges and exactly the reason why this library exists :). Thank you for the question :). Yes, the stream semantics need to be fixed. The idea is that a set of transforms for this issue can be reused by others. Okay. >> valuesLocalTransform has lots of juicy bits. But this doesnât look very simple. We canât just replace an old method with a new one. We also have to write the new one to tweak how the indices are used in #upTo:, and make sure that new method gets filed-in as well into the Pharo target image. Or, we have to do this kind of change manually. Naa, itâs very easy, I think :). A PackageChange specifies transforms for classes used in the package (#localChanges) and #extensions for system classes of the target. For a class, you can have a ClassChange describing the changes to instance or class methods. A MethodChange has 4 subclasses for: - Ignore â donât write this method to the target - Add â add this new method (not in the source system) to the target - Replace â replace the body of this method with other code - Rewrite â rewrite the method source using a rewrite rule. Add and Replace need the target code. Add then always involves a new name for a method in the target. Replaces use an old name in the target with a new code body. This is stored in another method with a derived name like #_ph_upTo: . The method name is not important, because only the body of the method is used. But the name should not be used in the source â it is just a holder for the replacement code. These methods live in the specific [<Smalltalk> Fileout <Package>] package. Okay. There are lots of working(!) examples for all of those in the PDFtalk transform project. This bit (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) is replacing #asColorValue with #_ph_asColorValue because some special Pharo-color conversion needs to happen. But how does #_ph_asColorValue get defined? Itâs neither in VW nor in Pharo 10. You got bitten by the old version of [Pharo Fileout Values]. Please load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk]. There, the methods exist. Yes, I see it now. Ok. I donât have a virgin image. I have a very non-virgin image, about 27 years of development Iâm trying to port to Pharo. I donât yet have a specific interest in the PDFtalk, though I do see a need for PDF generation later, and will probably revisit that. For now, I just want my own stuff to run in Pharo. Virgin image just means that you donât need anything else. You can safely load it in you favorite special images :). I would load PDFtalk, although technically you donât need to (all the extensions to PDFtalk would be unloadable, but that doesnât affect Values). Okay. is: Load {Values Project] bundle Load {PDFtalk Project} bundle Load {Smalltalk Transform Project} bundle Load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package Save, done Okay, so do I understand correctly that I need to include the PDFtalk stuff even if Iâm not interested in PDFtalk, because thatâs where a lot of the Smalltalk transformation machinery lives? Or is the PDFtalk just being used as an example for how to do a massive transformation? Or Both? No, the transformation machinery is fully independent of PDFtalk. I just tried it. The dependencies are in the specific [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package, since I have already quite a few replacement methods which are extensions to PDFtalk classes. Okay. PDFtalk is the focus of the project and therefore all issues are solved first with this library in mind. Therefore, bundles and namespaces are handled, for example. When you study the more interesting transformations for PDFtalk, it would be a shame not to be able to browse the methods and classes involved. So, PDFtalk is the real world reference example. And Values is the simplest example. To transform Values do: âPharo100 fileOutValuesâ The [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package includes the latest Values transformations. I am thinking about a better modularizationâ¦ Also, the wiki is a bit out of control. It really needs some restructuring. In the cites wiki page, there is a link to a blog where I record the changes. This might be informative. 2. Port the Values package. This is easy, since no namespaces are involved. This first instruction after VW package setup says to port the contents of the Values package from VW to Pharo. Do you mean manually? Probably not. No, no. This has been finished in March. For each dialect, I have a GitHub repository where I release important versions: <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. You can find the working port as first release â <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk/releases/tag/1.3.0.0> Working versionâ. There you can download the ported Values fileout with the exact description with which versions of what it was created. This should be a good starting example. Why do I need any new code installed in Pharo before I begin the transformation, if Iâm transforming code from VW to pharo? Iâm not understanding the basic constraints of the problem, even when the detailed steps are clear. No, no. You donât need anything on the Pharo side. The fileouts on GitHub are the end products of a transformation for people who donât use VisualWorks, but want to use Values in Pharo. Or help with PDFtalk by fixing some issues, so that I can write the transformations. Iâve done these steps so far: 1. Went to <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. Mistake :). You donât want to look at the unfinished product of the current version of thincomplete transformations for PDFtalk. Do you mean âfinishedâ here? Isnât that file-in the finished result? I thought the above links was the currently finished result (as good as it can be until the rest of the bugs are goine and tests all run). Yes, that was confusing. Thatâs why I had the early impression that Values was somehow apart of the transformation machinery. See https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=stateoftheport#pharo-10-0: Instead, you want to look at the unfinished product of the transformations of your projects :). 2. Saved down PDFtalk.Pharo100.st into <my Pharo 10 image directory>/pharo-local/Smalltalk-Transformation. (I figured that was a good place to save it. If anyone disagrees, or has a better or more conventional idea about where files should be saved, please say so. I setup a Pharo Git repo and played with it briefly for the first time yesterday. Iâve used Pharo off an on for 16 years, but this is the first time Iâm making a serious effort to manage source, and not throw away what Iâm working on.) 3. Filed-in PDFtalk.Pharo100.st. This went on for about 7 minutes or so. I have a hundreds if not over a thousand classes showing in Epicea. Is there anyway to get Epicea to give me a count of changes with a time-range filter? 4. Deleted (forgot) yesterdayâs, old Main practice-repo from both the image and the drive, and made a new one. I need to add to Main all the packages I just filed-in, but I donât see an efficient way to do that. I would like to use the Add Package button, but this gives a filtered list of available packages. I can filter subgroups, and then individually select each of the checkboxes to the left of each package (there is no Ctrl-A [select all] option here, which seems to be a strange omission given the potentially large number of packages involved). I see lots of prefixes for the classes just loaded. I could easily miss something if I filter/select/add one prefix-group at a time. Is there an easier way? Over in Epicea I donât see a way to push the loaded items listed to a specific repo. The first thought I have is to select all filed-in code artifacts by datetime span. I did that and saved it as an .ombu file (I have no idea what that is). I donât see a way to import that .ombu file into repo Mainâs âWorking copyâ window. It must be easy, but I donât see it. Please suggest the best way. Iâd like to know as well â I am not quite familiar with the source management concepts in Pharo. I asked in Discord. I donât understand why stuff like this is missing. The only conclusion I can draw is that no one does huge file-ins (but you do). It is planned to generate Tonel output in the future, but for now I feel safer with the traditional fileout where I can have doIts. I am not sure how Tonel reacts to crippled sources, which are normal during the development of the transformations. Shaping From: christian.haider <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42 To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for Squeak and Pharo With help from the community some issues were fixed which improved the test statistics nicely. Check it out: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=portingblog#second_pdftalk_fileout_for_… Thanks to everybody involved! Happy hacking, Christian

Aug. 6, 2022

Re: Pharo's syntax highlighter

by Pierre Misse Chanabier

I do not know the syntax highlighter, but I know the AST fairly well. The first two points are fairly easy: * Color method temp variables and block parameter variables differently. Currently they are identified too generally as just #variables. They are therefore always the same color. Can someone point me to the parser classes that extract these features? * Color differently Classes and other globals? I'm trying to find this distinction as well in the parser classes. If someone familiar with the parsing and related GUI classes can give me some pointers, I'll do the work. * Let the user assign colors to the first 7 levels of parentheses and first 7 levels of brackets. 1) There is no differences in the AST about temporary / arguments declaration. They are both at the level of the sequence node of the method/block (the body). Thankfully we can ask for the parent and have a case for each. You'd have to modify visitTemporaryDeclarationNode:. 2) There is no difference in the AST between classes / Globals. Because Classes are in fact Globals. You'd have to ask for the (self class environment classAt: aGlobal name)Â ifNotNil: [ class behavior ] ifNil: [ global behavior ]. A quick look seem that the behavior of the syntax highlighter is in the IconStyler class. (again, don't know it, just checking this out quickly). Pierre On 8/6/2022 4:53 AM, Shaping wrote: > > Are there any experts here on the Settingsâ Syntax Highlighter > subsection and associated parser classes that make the ASTs?Â I have > some extensions/mods I would like to make to the highlighter.Â Â Can > someone suggest which classes to study? > > Iâm alternating between improvement like this and porting my stuff > from VW, with Christianâs help. Thanks Christian. > > Hereâs the issue sketching what I want to do in the highlighter: > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/11505 > > Shaping >

Aug. 6, 2022

Pharo's syntax highlighter

by Shaping

Are there any experts here on the Settings' Syntax Highlighter subsection and associated parser classes that make the ASTs? I have some extensions/mods I would like to make to the highlighter. Can someone suggest which classes to study? I'm alternating between improvement like this and porting my stuff from VW, with Christian's help. Thanks Christian. Here's the issue sketching what I want to do in the highlighter: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/11505 Shaping

Aug. 6, 2022

Re: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: doing first run soon

by Shaping

Iâll make my first run soon on my first package. Iâll do one package extra each time I run, building up the code. Each package will have its own <package name>Transform method, per the examples. Iâm not sure how to build these methods, except to assume that rewriting the pharo base methods is never wrong. Iâll file-in the resulting .st file to see what breaks. Then Iâll go back to the package whose .st source is not loading completely and add additional fixes (class keeps, base methods rewrites if needed and missing, method code body replacements if needed) to its transform method until it loads completely on the next run. That could take a while. Is that what you do in practice? Perfect! That is exactly how I do it. I start with an empty PackageChange. Then I add incrementally transforms until the code loads - phase one. This has been achieved for PDFtalk with the first release on GitHub. The second and final phase is to make all tests run (including the new to-write tests). This can take a while, because all syntactic and semantic differences must be addressed. Here, some cross-fertilization is possible. Yeah, and I have to be thorough finally about all my SUnit testsâ¦ The nice thing is, that the system is always telling you what to do. In fact, at first there are so many issues that it is a lot of fun to browse them and chose a nice one. Always the nicest or easiest bug first :-). Right. Iâm assuming the code writer is taking into account inter-package dependencies in order to get the load order right. Yes. Shaping From: christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Friday, 5 August, 2022 05:53 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges The full project in which the mentioned method used looks like this: PDFtalkProject ^ProjectChange name: #PDFtalk source: ((OrderedCollection new) add: (Package name: #Values); add: (Bundle name: #PDFtalk); add: (Package name: #'Values Testing'); add: (Bundle name: #'PDFtalk Testing'); add: (Package name: #'PDFtalk Demonstrations'); yourself) changes: self pdftalkPackageChanges nameMapping: (NameMapping keep: ((OrderedCollection new) add: #{Smalltalk.PDF}; add: #{PostScript.PSDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFObject}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFArray}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFStream}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFString}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDate}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFTypeDefinition}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFEncoder}; yourself) classToNames: ((Valuemap new) add: #{SubscriptOutOfBoundsError} -> #Error; add: #{NonIntegerIndexError} -> #Error; add: #{NotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; add: #{KeyNotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; yourself) namespaceToPrefixes: ((Valuemap new) add: #{Smalltalk.PostScript} -> 'PS'; add: #{Smalltalk.PDFtalk} -> 'Pt'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts} -> 'PtF'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts.OpenType} -> 'PtOT'; yourself)) In the #source: are the bundles and packages to be transformed. The #changes: (your method) specify the transforms (PackageChange) for each package explicitly. Only packages contain code and therefore, only packages need the code transformations. Bundles are transformed without transformations. (Well, the code for pre-, post- whatever blocks are transformed with the class name mappings rules). So, the mapping from packages to the corresponding PackageChange has to be stated somehow. Using a dictionary (Valuemap) for this seems also natural. The only change I might like is to use pragmas to tag the PackageChange returning methods with âtheirâ package like <package: âValues Toolsâ> or so. Putting the package reference into the PackageChange is not a good idea, because all those Objects need to be created before your can find out which package is affected. (Ok, I am creating all PackageChange objects tooâ¦). Happy hacking, Christian Von: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2022 03:26 An: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges This method pdftalkPackageChanges ^(Valuemap new) add: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform; add: 'PostScript' -> self PostScriptTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basics' -> self PDFtalkBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Typing' -> self PDFtalkTypingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basic Objects' -> self PDFtalkBasicObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Streams' -> self PDFtalkStreamsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Data Structures' -> self PDFtalkDataStructuresTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Parsing' -> self PDFtalkParsingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Colour' -> self PDFtalkColourTransform; add: 'PostScript Fonts' -> self PostScriptFontsTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Basics' -> self PDFtalkFontsBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Type1' -> self PDFtalkFontsType1Transform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts OpenType' -> self PDFtalkFontsOpenTypeTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts' -> self PDFtalkFontsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics Operations' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsOperationsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk XObjects' -> self PDFtalkXObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Images' -> self PDFtalkImagesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Files' -> self PDFtalkFilesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Document' -> self PDFtalkDocumentTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Rendering' -> self PDFtalkRenderingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Shading' -> self PDFtalkShadingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Interactive Features' -> self PDFtalkInteractiveFeaturesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Deploying' -> self PDFtalkDeployingTransform; add: 'Values Testing' -> self ValuesTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk test resources' -> self PDFtalkTestResourcesTransform; add: 'PostScript Testing' -> self PostScriptTestingTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit Testing' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts tests' -> self PDFtalkFontsTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk tests' -> self PDFtalkTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Demonstrations' -> self PDFtalkDemonstrationsTransform; yourself effectively looks like the head transform structure for a project, in this case all the PDFtalk stuff, which includes Values and Postscript. This is not exactly a bundle idea, is it? Itâs project spread across potentially many bundles and packages. Iâll start coding my transform with a similar method, and work down toward the details. Takes a bit to get used to all the correct, yet dangling VW methods that are useless in VW, but which will become new code in the target image and there no longer appear to be dangling (with syntax highlighting aberrations). Odd looking but completely by design. Shaping From: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Sent: Thursday, 4 August, 2022 19:18 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: Pharo100 fileOutValues I will look, although this kind of always available on demand thing is too disruptive for meâ¦ I know what you mean. I try be disciplined about it. I really like to be able to fix typos, because there are almost always typos. But e-mail is okay. So that little example is a test that shows how the transformation is done. It converts just package Values to a Pharo-compatible file-in. My task is then to queue a bunch of ProjectChange instances like this one: SmalltalkTransform.Pharo100>> ValuesProject ^ProjectChange name: #Values source: (Array with: (Package name: #Values)) changes: (Valuemap with: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform) Exactly but for my own packages. No bundles are transformed (just their contained packages) because Pharo doesnât have bundles. Is that right? No, bundles are handled. For real examples, you need to look at the PDFtalk transforms. Yes, Pharo does not have a concept of bundles (ordered aggregates of packages). Instead it relies on a naming convention for packages. That convention is honored in the fileout, so that packages will be partly grouped in Pharo according to the category prefix. For each VW-package, one Pharo package is created. A bundle itself is also represented as Pharo package with one class About<bundlename> with class methods for the metadata of the bundle, including a method giving you the ordered list of component packages. So, all contents and metadata of packages and bundles are transformed for Pharo. No code or info gets lost. Okay. Is method ValuesTransform ^PackageChange ignoredNames: #(#{Smalltalk.GeneralBindingReference}) bridgeClasses: (Valuemap with: #{Timestamp} -> #DateAndTime with: #{Smalltalk.ColorValue} -> #Color) localChanges: self valuesLocalTransform extensions: (Array with: (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) with: (SystemClassChange className: #TextStream instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #nextPutAllText: code: #_ph_nextPutAllText:)))) written specifically for that package? I would think it applies to all packages. I see some expected mappings like Timestamp to DateAndTime. Yes, this method returns a PackageChange Value describing the transformations needed to create the Pharo fileout for this specific package (inspect the return value for the fully expanded Value). Methods exist with the same name for other Smalltalks. Depending on the dialect (or version of a dialect), the transforms are different. Squeak and Pharo are quite similar, because they share a common history, but VA or Gemstone need quite different transforms. So, in general, for each package, there is one such method/Value for each target Smalltalk/version. Okay. I do not dare to extract commonalities before the machinery is really robust and stable. For now everything is neatly separate and self-contained (and probably it will stay that way, although there are lots of duplications). The mapping of class names is the responsibility of the enclosing ProjectChange Value where you define the list of source bundles/packages to transform, the PackageChanges for all packages and the mapping of âglobalâ names. (The bridge classes above are no renames, but a subclass relationship (is-a) to avoid renamings. The new class Timestamp will be created as subclass of DateAndTime which has almost the same semantics. Therefore, I can still use Timestamp which will be basically a DateAndTime now.) Okay. There is still a technical challenge here. Currently, a ProjectChange need to include all prerequisites (Values is part of the PDFtalk project and will be transformed with it). A ProjectWriter, which coordinates the transform, keeps track of the mappings when they are created (either explicitly or through a namespace renaming â see implementers of #PDFtalkProject). I would like to have this more modular: the mappings from the Values transformation should be persistently saved, so that other transformation projects can just use them, instead of including the sources into one own project. For this, I need to have renamings local to a package (where they first occur), not global on the project level. Right. For Values and Values Tests and Values Tools this works, because there are no mappings in the Values package. What about conversion of VW arrays to Pharo literal arrays? How is that done? (I think you mean dynamic arrays like {1. âabcâ size. 42} in which evaluation happens (in contrast to literal things which can be resolved already by the compiler). Yes, dynamic arrays. Not! Since a while, VW also has dynamic arrays, but not in VW 8.3 â the last publicly available version. Okay, I was wondering when that would happen. I will not shut out those users, because âopen-sourceâ would be quite absurd, if it is only available for paying customers. In 8.3, the compiler does not accept that syntax and therefore, there is no easy way to represent this in replacement code. So, no. It is not possible until Cincom releases an public version which can handle that. Okay. I recall that one of the Smalltalks (I donât recall which) had Stream semantics differing from VWâs. â¦ I just checked. VWâs #upTo: method includes the object and leaves the index after it, and Pharoâs excludes the object and leaves the index at the object. So that is some major breakage if we donât correct it. Can it be done automatically? Yes, these are the usual porting challenges and exactly the reason why this library exists :). Thank you for the question :). Yes, the stream semantics need to be fixed. The idea is that a set of transforms for this issue can be reused by others. Okay. >> valuesLocalTransform has lots of juicy bits. But this doesnât look very simple. We canât just replace an old method with a new one. We also have to write the new one to tweak how the indices are used in #upTo:, and make sure that new method gets filed-in as well into the Pharo target image. Or, we have to do this kind of change manually. Naa, itâs very easy, I think :). A PackageChange specifies transforms for classes used in the package (#localChanges) and #extensions for system classes of the target. For a class, you can have a ClassChange describing the changes to instance or class methods. A MethodChange has 4 subclasses for: - Ignore â donât write this method to the target - Add â add this new method (not in the source system) to the target - Replace â replace the body of this method with other code - Rewrite â rewrite the method source using a rewrite rule. Add and Replace need the target code. Add then always involves a new name for a method in the target. Replaces use an old name in the target with a new code body. This is stored in another method with a derived name like #_ph_upTo: . The method name is not important, because only the body of the method is used. But the name should not be used in the source â it is just a holder for the replacement code. These methods live in the specific [<Smalltalk> Fileout <Package>] package. Okay. There are lots of working(!) examples for all of those in the PDFtalk transform project. This bit (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) is replacing #asColorValue with #_ph_asColorValue because some special Pharo-color conversion needs to happen. But how does #_ph_asColorValue get defined? Itâs neither in VW nor in Pharo 10. You got bitten by the old version of [Pharo Fileout Values]. Please load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk]. There, the methods exist. Yes, I see it now. Ok. I donât have a virgin image. I have a very non-virgin image, about 27 years of development Iâm trying to port to Pharo. I donât yet have a specific interest in the PDFtalk, though I do see a need for PDF generation later, and will probably revisit that. For now, I just want my own stuff to run in Pharo. Virgin image just means that you donât need anything else. You can safely load it in you favorite special images :). I would load PDFtalk, although technically you donât need to (all the extensions to PDFtalk would be unloadable, but that doesnât affect Values). Okay. is: Load {Values Project] bundle Load {PDFtalk Project} bundle Load {Smalltalk Transform Project} bundle Load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package Save, done Okay, so do I understand correctly that I need to include the PDFtalk stuff even if Iâm not interested in PDFtalk, because thatâs where a lot of the Smalltalk transformation machinery lives? Or is the PDFtalk just being used as an example for how to do a massive transformation? Or Both? No, the transformation machinery is fully independent of PDFtalk. I just tried it. The dependencies are in the specific [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package, since I have already quite a few replacement methods which are extensions to PDFtalk classes. Okay. PDFtalk is the focus of the project and therefore all issues are solved first with this library in mind. Therefore, bundles and namespaces are handled, for example. When you study the more interesting transformations for PDFtalk, it would be a shame not to be able to browse the methods and classes involved. So, PDFtalk is the real world reference example. And Values is the simplest example. To transform Values do: âPharo100 fileOutValuesâ The [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package includes the latest Values transformations. I am thinking about a better modularizationâ¦ Also, the wiki is a bit out of control. It really needs some restructuring. In the cites wiki page, there is a link to a blog where I record the changes. This might be informative. 2. Port the Values package. This is easy, since no namespaces are involved. This first instruction after VW package setup says to port the contents of the Values package from VW to Pharo. Do you mean manually? Probably not. No, no. This has been finished in March. For each dialect, I have a GitHub repository where I release important versions: <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. You can find the working port as first release â <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk/releases/tag/1.3.0.0> Working versionâ. There you can download the ported Values fileout with the exact description with which versions of what it was created. This should be a good starting example. Why do I need any new code installed in Pharo before I begin the transformation, if Iâm transforming code from VW to pharo? Iâm not understanding the basic constraints of the problem, even when the detailed steps are clear. No, no. You donât need anything on the Pharo side. The fileouts on GitHub are the end products of a transformation for people who donât use VisualWorks, but want to use Values in Pharo. Or help with PDFtalk by fixing some issues, so that I can write the transformations. Iâve done these steps so far: 1. Went to <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. Mistake :). You donât want to look at the unfinished product of the current version of thincomplete transformations for PDFtalk. Do you mean âfinishedâ here? Isnât that file-in the finished result? I thought the above links was the currently finished result (as good as it can be until the rest of the bugs are goine and tests all run). Yes, that was confusing. Thatâs why I had the early impression that Values was somehow apart of the transformation machinery. See https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=stateoftheport#pharo-10-0: Instead, you want to look at the unfinished product of the transformations of your projects :). 2. Saved down PDFtalk.Pharo100.st into <my Pharo 10 image directory>/pharo-local/Smalltalk-Transformation. (I figured that was a good place to save it. If anyone disagrees, or has a better or more conventional idea about where files should be saved, please say so. I setup a Pharo Git repo and played with it briefly for the first time yesterday. Iâve used Pharo off an on for 16 years, but this is the first time Iâm making a serious effort to manage source, and not throw away what Iâm working on.) 3. Filed-in PDFtalk.Pharo100.st. This went on for about 7 minutes or so. I have a hundreds if not over a thousand classes showing in Epicea. Is there anyway to get Epicea to give me a count of changes with a time-range filter? 4. Deleted (forgot) yesterdayâs, old Main practice-repo from both the image and the drive, and made a new one. I need to add to Main all the packages I just filed-in, but I donât see an efficient way to do that. I would like to use the Add Package button, but this gives a filtered list of available packages. I can filter subgroups, and then individually select each of the checkboxes to the left of each package (there is no Ctrl-A [select all] option here, which seems to be a strange omission given the potentially large number of packages involved). I see lots of prefixes for the classes just loaded. I could easily miss something if I filter/select/add one prefix-group at a time. Is there an easier way? Over in Epicea I donât see a way to push the loaded items listed to a specific repo. The first thought I have is to select all filed-in code artifacts by datetime span. I did that and saved it as an .ombu file (I have no idea what that is). I donât see a way to import that .ombu file into repo Mainâs âWorking copyâ window. It must be easy, but I donât see it. Please suggest the best way. Iâd like to know as well â I am not quite familiar with the source management concepts in Pharo. I asked in Discord. I donât understand why stuff like this is missing. The only conclusion I can draw is that no one does huge file-ins (but you do). It is planned to generate Tonel output in the future, but for now I feel safer with the traditional fileout where I can have doIts. I am not sure how Tonel reacts to crippled sources, which are normal during the development of the transformations. Shaping From: christian.haider <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com> Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42 To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for Squeak and Pharo With help from the community some issues were fixed which improved the test statistics nicely. Check it out: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=portingblog#second_pdftalk_fileout_for_… Thanks to everybody involved! Happy hacking, Christian

Aug. 6, 2022

Pharo's syntax highlighter

by Shaping

Are there any experts here on the Settings' Syntax Highlighter subsection and associated parser classes that make the ASTs? I have some extensions/mods I would like to make to highlighter. Can someone suggest which classes to study? I'm alternating between improvement like this and porting my stuff from VW, with Christian's help. Thanks Christian. Here's the issue sketching what I want to do in the highlighter: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/11505 Shaping

Aug. 6, 2022