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Re: [Pharo-project] Spec questions

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

have a look at the dualChangeSorter as an example. Stef On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Benjamin wrote: > To participate, you can: > - take a random tool and rewrite it using Spec :) > - read the tech report, and tell where it's clear/unclear :) > - write comments ^^ > - just use it, and share your feedback. Then all together we can improve Spec > - try to convince other people to participate :D > > Thank you in advance, > Ben > > > On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > >> How to participate then ? >> >> Will it be possible to do maybe a simple, but "live" painter ? >> >> My first contact with Morphic to do a few gui elements (such as rewritting the Nautilus GUI :-P) found the interface to be on the confusing side (multiple morphs doing the same thing, complex instantiation interface on average). >> >> Thierry >> >> Le 11/07/2012 14:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >>> The plan is the following: >>> >>> - focus on really added value: >>> - dynamic spec (and ben did it already). We should be able to build mac os x like finder engine >>> >>> - focus on four/five items (buttons, list, trees, text area) >>> - build a first complete UIPainter something that can be used to >>> place widgets on the screen and wire them. >>> - we started to look again at UIBuilder in 1.0 to get what could be reused >>> (for now we will probably drop the event aspect) >>> - ideally the panes for widgets settings should be generated automatically >>> based on some kind of meta description or spec of the widgets so that we can >>> move faster >>> >>> - continue to rewrite all the tools with Spec. ChangeSorter and dualChangeSorter got into >>> production. >>> >>> - continue the chapter. >>> - probably some videos. >>> >>> Now if people want to help, there are welcome. >>> I think that we need more users. A typical task would be to rewrite the MC tools. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Do we have Spec examples for >>>> - menues >>>> - lists with icons >>>> - trees >>>> >>>> already? What is the state and overall >>>> plan for the near future. >>>> >>>> Thx >>>> T. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thierry Goubier >> CEA list >> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> France >> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> >> >> > >

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Visualizing Legacy at SPA conference

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks. I will have a look at the tutorial making tool. Stef On Jul 11, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Last week Willem and I presented a workshop Visualizing Legacy, > using MOOSE, at SPA2012 in London. In a 150 minutes workshop > we showed how to use glamour and mondrian to visualize the > github repository data from 4 ruby projects and the code used > for these analysis and the workshop itself. > > The exercises work toward the creation of a glamour browser with a mondrian > pane showing custom visualizations not achievable by more static tools like Sonar. > The answering of specific questions that arise during the analysis of the data > show the strengths of the MOOSE toolchain. > > We started by showing some of the work Diego and I have done for > the conversion of the data of a cobol ERP system to a modern ERP system. > By creating (at least) one browser/visualization a day, we were able to make > the subject matter expert, a very busy senior executive of the company, > steer the conversion process to her satisfaction. By treating her as the > bottleneck, and making it as easy as possible for her to see where we were, > and what we still had to do/understand, she could effectively prioritize and > decide. > > Then we asked the participants what they expected/wanted from visualizing > their legacy code. The answers were a mix of things that tools like Sonar > can easily provide, with very specific questions that need a programmable tool > like MOOSE. > > As we expected, it took most of the about 14 participants quite a lot of effort and > time to get to grips with the smalltalk environment to work in. So much so, > that some asked for a separate smalltalk workshop to do before this one, > or a larger timeslot for this workshop. The few participants experienced with > Smalltalk had been using VW/VA and also had some problems finding their > way around. In the end, the participants who managed to just follow the > exercises achieved the goals without too much interventions needed. > > Inspired by ProfStef, we build a custom glamour browser for the workshop. > The code can be found in the SpaTutorial project on ss3. (The ConfigurationOfâ¦ > is no Metacello) > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/SpaTutorial > > It is split in a generic part, allowing you to create tutorials, and a specific > part for this workshop. We might want to extend it so the exercises can be > done entirely in the custom browser. That might help the smalltalk newbies. > Now the participants needed two class browsers in addition to the tutorial, > one to edit the exercise code, and one to look at the domain model. > > We believe the learning curve can be flattened by extending the SpaTutorial > browser so it can save code, and extracting some methods so the tutorial browser > only shows the bits participants have to work on right now, > gradually expanding the scope as it progresses. > > It uses the data collected for the SPA2011 great egg-race. > http://chatley.com/posts/06-20-2011/spa-great-egg-race/ > > Git commit data was collected by Michael Feathers from four ruby projects, > a.o. active_merchant and diaspora. After my holidays I'll put the data in a zip in > https://github.com/StephanEggermont/repodepot-ruby > > For the 150 minute timeslot we focused on glamour and mondrian, > although we also prepared an eyesee exercise. Next time we might switch > the exercises around - mondrian looks more glamourous than glamour ;). > A longer version may also be in the works if we can run it somewhere. > It was only after the mondrian exercise that participants could start playing > with the data on their own. Participants indicated they associatied mondrian > more with visualization than glamour. > > Stephan Eggermont & Willem van den Ende

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Spec questions

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

have a look at the dualChangeSorter as an example. Stef On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Benjamin wrote: > To participate, you can: > - take a random tool and rewrite it using Spec :) > - read the tech report, and tell where it's clear/unclear :) > - write comments ^^ > - just use it, and share your feedback. Then all together we can improve Spec > - try to convince other people to participate :D > > Thank you in advance, > Ben > > > On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > >> How to participate then ? >> >> Will it be possible to do maybe a simple, but "live" painter ? >> >> My first contact with Morphic to do a few gui elements (such as rewritting the Nautilus GUI :-P) found the interface to be on the confusing side (multiple morphs doing the same thing, complex instantiation interface on average). >> >> Thierry >> >> Le 11/07/2012 14:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >>> The plan is the following: >>> >>> - focus on really added value: >>> - dynamic spec (and ben did it already). We should be able to build mac os x like finder engine >>> >>> - focus on four/five items (buttons, list, trees, text area) >>> - build a first complete UIPainter something that can be used to >>> place widgets on the screen and wire them. >>> - we started to look again at UIBuilder in 1.0 to get what could be reused >>> (for now we will probably drop the event aspect) >>> - ideally the panes for widgets settings should be generated automatically >>> based on some kind of meta description or spec of the widgets so that we can >>> move faster >>> >>> - continue to rewrite all the tools with Spec. ChangeSorter and dualChangeSorter got into >>> production. >>> >>> - continue the chapter. >>> - probably some videos. >>> >>> Now if people want to help, there are welcome. >>> I think that we need more users. A typical task would be to rewrite the MC tools. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Do we have Spec examples for >>>> - menues >>>> - lists with icons >>>> - trees >>>> >>>> already? What is the state and overall >>>> plan for the near future. >>>> >>>> Thx >>>> T. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thierry Goubier >> CEA list >> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> France >> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> >> >> > >

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] StartupPreferences in 1.4

by Mariano Martinez Peck

This is why you should stop integrating stuff in 1.4 ;) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5892 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > > > It's picking up .DS_Store files and trying to compile them... > > > > Issue 6352: StartupPreferences loads non-st files in 1.4 â¹ Prev 7 > of 447 > Next âº > Status: HumanReviewNeeded > Type-Bug > Milestone-1.4 > Difficulty-Easy > > Fix in inbox: StartupPreferences-SeanDeNigris.37 > Restrict PreferencesHandler lookup to only files with an 'st' extension. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/StartupPreferences-in-1-4-tp4639713p4639716.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [ENH]: Zinc - Streaming Download Progress

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Frank, When I have more time, I sure have to read your stuff, it seems quite interesting. Sven On 12 Jul 2012, at 22:56, Frank Shearar wrote: > On 12 July 2012 21:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: >> It is better explained with code ;-) >> >> With: >> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe uploaded a new version of Zinc-HTTP to project Zinc HTTP Components: >> http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents/Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenbergh… >> >> ==================== Summary ==================== >> >> Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.285 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 12 July 2012, 9:58 am >> UUID: e992fd76-efde-4b31-b4b4-bd468f8176f2 >> Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.284 >> >> enabled HTTPProgress signalling during streaming up/downloads. >> introduction of ZnSignalProgress with #enabled method >> >> ================================================= >> >> You should now be able to do something like: >> >> UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar | >> [ >> '/Users/sven/Desktop/test-99425.txt' asFileReference ensureDeleted. >> ^ ZnClient new >> signalProgress: true; >> url: 'http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/public-stfx-eu/test-99425.txt'; >> downloadTo: '/Users/sven/Desktop/' ] >> on: HTTPProgress >> do: [ :progress | >> bar label: progress printString. >> progress total ifNotNil: [ >> 1 second asDelay wait. >> bar current: (progress amount / progress total) * 100 ]. >> progress resume ] ]. >> >> Sven > > Yes: my Control library just provides a touch more formalism than > arbitrary resumable exceptions, but it's otherwise just that. > > frank > >> On 12 Jul 2012, at 19:11, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >>> >>> Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote >>>> >>>> There is already a usecase in ZnConnectionTimeout. >>>> >>> >>> Okay, I checked out the code. How does that concept apply here? Maybe a >>> quick example? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sean >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ENH-Zinc-Streaming-Download-Progress-tp4639686p463971… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> >

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [ENH]: Zinc - Streaming Download Progress

by Frank Shearar

On 12 July 2012 21:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > It is better explained with code ;-) > > With: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe uploaded a new version of Zinc-HTTP to project Zinc HTTP Components: > http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents/Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenbergh… > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.285 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 12 July 2012, 9:58 am > UUID: e992fd76-efde-4b31-b4b4-bd468f8176f2 > Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.284 > > enabled HTTPProgress signalling during streaming up/downloads. > introduction of ZnSignalProgress with #enabled method > > ================================================= > > You should now be able to do something like: > > UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar | > [ > '/Users/sven/Desktop/test-99425.txt' asFileReference ensureDeleted. > ^ ZnClient new > signalProgress: true; > url: 'http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/public-stfx-eu/test-99425.txt'; > downloadTo: '/Users/sven/Desktop/' ] > on: HTTPProgress > do: [ :progress | > bar label: progress printString. > progress total ifNotNil: [ > 1 second asDelay wait. > bar current: (progress amount / progress total) * 100 ]. > progress resume ] ]. > > Sven Yes: my Control library just provides a touch more formalism than arbitrary resumable exceptions, but it's otherwise just that. frank > On 12 Jul 2012, at 19:11, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote >>> >>> There is already a usecase in ZnConnectionTimeout. >>> >> >> Okay, I checked out the code. How does that concept apply here? Maybe a >> quick example? >> >> Thanks, >> Sean >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ENH-Zinc-Streaming-Download-Progress-tp4639686p463971… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

July 12, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20206

by Marcus Denker

20206 ----- Issue 6353: Cleanup support for Zaurus, WinCE and MacOS9 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6353 Issue 3496: default should be replaced by new for SystemNavigation http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3496 Issue 6350: StartupPreferences Cleanup http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6350 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [ENH]: Zinc - Streaming Download Progress

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

It is better explained with code ;-) With: Sven Van Caekenberghe uploaded a new version of Zinc-HTTP to project Zinc HTTP Components: http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents/Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenbergh… ==================== Summary ==================== Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.285 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 July 2012, 9:58 am UUID: e992fd76-efde-4b31-b4b4-bd468f8176f2 Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.284 enabled HTTPProgress signalling during streaming up/downloads. introduction of ZnSignalProgress with #enabled method ================================================= You should now be able to do something like: UIManager default informUserDuring: [ :bar | [ '/Users/sven/Desktop/test-99425.txt' asFileReference ensureDeleted. ^ ZnClient new signalProgress: true; url: 'http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/public-stfx-eu/test-99425.txt'; downloadTo: '/Users/sven/Desktop/' ] on: HTTPProgress do: [ :progress | bar label: progress printString. progress total ifNotNil: [ 1 second asDelay wait. bar current: (progress amount / progress total) * 100 ]. progress resume ] ]. Sven On 12 Jul 2012, at 19:11, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote >> >> There is already a usecase in ZnConnectionTimeout. >> > > Okay, I checked out the code. How does that concept apply here? Maybe a > quick example? > > Thanks, > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ENH-Zinc-Streaming-Download-Progress-tp4639686p463971… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

July 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] StartupPreferences in 1.4

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > It's picking up .DS_Store files and trying to compile them... > Issue 6352: StartupPreferences loads non-st files in 1.4 â¹ Prev 7 of 447 Next âº Status: HumanReviewNeeded Type-Bug Milestone-1.4 Difficulty-Easy Fix in inbox: StartupPreferences-SeanDeNigris.37 Restrict PreferencesHandler lookup to only files with an 'st' extension. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/StartupPreferences-in-1-4-tp4639713p4639716.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 12, 2012

[Pharo-project] StartupPreferences in 1.4

by Sean P. DeNigris

Unless it gets some love, maybe it should be removed from the 1.4 summer release. It's picking up .DS_Store files and trying to compile them... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/StartupPreferences-in-1-4-tp4639713.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 12, 2012