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Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

by Igor Stasenko

Ah, I see, the docs in markdown. I like it. I tried to use markdown for NativeBoost documentation, and it quite nice.. But as Stef says, we need something non-geeky and easily accessible. I agree that documentation , which is well written and with good coverage is better to keep & organize together with sources and use of SCM is completely reasonable for it. But what i want to have is more like news posts, which not necessary need to have too much details and just serving to keep every developer(s) (and interested users) to stay updated and informed about changes. Because usually we post things into mailing list, and in a couple of days, the information is buried under tons of other mails. For documenting things we can use Cog project wiki, or files with markdown .. and of course the useful information can be distilled from blog posts, if needed. That's my impression. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:46 PM, johnmci wrote: > David Lewis and I spent a far amount of time a few years back to make the 32 > vm 4gb clean. So are you running on stale knowledge here, or does the vm > crash when to goes over 2gb? sorry my english limit does not let me know understanding what you mean exactly. Jannik in the context of moose would like to see if we can have image larger than 500 mb (on mac it should be possible). Stef > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Memory-usage-tp4641108p4642349.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Zinc is much better anyway. Not only from a technological point of view, > much more from a social one. Zinc constantly improved over the year and sven is always open to improvements. Zinc is a really nice gift to the community and we deeply appreciated the long effort sven did. Sven is aligned with our vision to build a powerful, clean, simple and pragmatic system so this is excellent. This is why a new look at WebSocket is definitively cool. What is also nice is that sven company uses zinc daily.

Aug. 1, 2012

[Pharo-project] ss3 is down

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks! -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 6076: Pharo 2.0 Jenkins build trigger not working

by Sean P. DeNigris

I noticed that the last two Pharo 2.0 updates seem to have been built manually on Jenkins. Are the triggers still not working? I thought I had finally fixed them. Whoever integrates the next update, please give Jenkins a few minutes to trigger a build and let me know if it happened or not. Thanks, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Issue-6076-Pharo-2-0-Jenkins-build-trigger-not-workin… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

by johnmci

David Lewis and I spent a far amount of time a few years back to make the 32 vm 4gb clean. So are you running on stale knowledge here, or does the vm crash when to goes over 2gb? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Memory-usage-tp4641108p4642349.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 July 2012 21:57, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - >>> I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports >>> WebSockets? >>> >> >> >> We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it >> was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done). > > That's... odd, given that it's licenced under MIT. I'm sad to hear that. > The MIT change came after we removed it from Pharo. Zinc is much better anyway. Not only from a technological point of view, much more from a social one. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

July 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

by Frank Shearar

On 31 July 2012 21:57, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - >> I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports >> WebSockets? >> > > > We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it > was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done). That's... odd, given that it's licenced under MIT. I'm sad to hear that. frank > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

July 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > > I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - > I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports > WebSockets? > We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done). Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

July 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

by Frank Shearar

On 31 July 2012 21:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Andy Burnett <andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc > Date: July 31, 2012 9:39:15 PM GMT+02:00 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Reply-To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome > <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > I think we need Websocket support built into Pharo. So, rather than talk > about it, I have contracted with Sven to build it into Zinc. We hope to have > a running version in the early Autumn. > > The purpose of this email is: > > To let everyone know that we will have Websocket support soon > To ask if anyone else feels that they would gain commercial benefit from > using this feature, and if so, whether they would like to help cover the > cost. If so, please drop me an email. > > Cheers > Andy I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets? frank > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >

July 31, 2012