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Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-08-01, at 15:43, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> >> one works (the simple one line config) and one doesn't (the ultra fancy >> interface). >> > > I'm assuming (simple = "Build when a URL's content changes") [1] and (fancy > = URLTrigger) [2] yeah > If you check > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/243/console , > you'll see that [2] triggered that build. Then [1] triggered the next build. indeed, strange... since today I checked the URLTrigger poll statuses after esteban release a new version. and even though it ran regularly it did not report any changes / triggered the build. actually I don't really care for as long as it works :P

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

by Sean P. DeNigris

Camillo Bruni-3 wrote > > one works (the simple one line config) and one doesn't (the ultra fancy > interface). > I'm assuming (simple = "Build when a URL's content changes") [1] and (fancy = URLTrigger) [2] If you check https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/243/console , you'll see that [2] triggered that build. Then [1] triggered the next build. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-2-0-20238-tp4642413p4642473.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-08-01, at 15:37, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> >> yeah, I changed the build to use the hudson URL checker and not the >> URLTrigger plugin. >> > > Oops, I deleted the URL checker trigger when I saw the URLTrigger had worked > for the #20237 build. Are you saying that it stopped working again for > #20238?! WTF?! no no, I changed the config, so it started working again :) But there are two places where you can specify the url trigger, and one works (the simple one line config) and one doesn't (the ultra fancy interface). In short, it works now

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

by Sean P. DeNigris

Camillo Bruni-3 wrote > > yeah, I changed the build to use the hudson URL checker and not the > URLTrigger plugin. > Oops, I deleted the URL checker trigger when I saw the URLTrigger had worked for the #20237 build. Are you saying that it stopped working again for #20238?! WTF?! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-2-0-20238-tp4642413p4642467.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-08-01, at 15:22, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: > Cami, > > As Patrik has mentioned the Metacello scripting api is headed in this direction ... for example the following expression provides a list of the Pier configurations in the squeaksource MetacelloRepository: > > Metacello new > configuration: [:spec | spec name beginsWith: 'Pier']; > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > list. > > You can download all of the Pier configurations to your image with this expression: > > Metacello new > configuration: [:spec | spec name beginsWith: 'Pier']; > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > get. > > Then you can load a particular configuration like this: > > Metacello new > configuration: 'Pier2'; > version: #stable; > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > load. > > So the Configuration itself is not the focus of the API ... the class Metacello implements the api, but the api is intended for the manipulation of configurations ... There's a User Guider[1] for the API that covers most of the commands and a Reference Manual with more details (and more work to be done). ah cool :) > I've just announced a preview release on the Metacello list where I'm looking for feedback on the api, so now is the perfect time for you to chime in. I am interested in providing support along the lines of `publish` and `update`, but I have to have more details of what those commands will do... I've built into the framework some capabilities for extensions ... for example the pharo-specific commands might look something like this: > > Metallo pharo > configuration: 'Pier2'; > publish. ok, I will try using it for my new projects, so I can get the hang of it. > The preview is functional and I expect some folks to actually start using it in their day to day work with the caveat that the api will change as I get feedback. > > Finally the Metacello class is very small and intended to be included in the base images for both Squeak and Pharo. Metacello is bootstrapped when you execute one of the commands ... > > I expect the preview period to run through ESUG, so we can talk in person then... perfect :) > Dale > > [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloUse… > [2] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloScr… > ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Camillo Bruni" <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 4:32:11 AM > | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository > | > | exactly! > | > | http://guides.rubygems.org/ > | > | We should have a services where you can do: > | > | ConfigurationOfFoo publish. > | > | which will upload it to a central Metacello repository as well. > | So you always find the bleeding edge config in the project's repos > | and > | the more stable ones in the main metacello repository. > | > | ConfigurationOfFoo update. > | > | > | Now I would like to have a more 'gem' like interface for metacello. > | Simply do a `gem help commands` in your terminal and you'll see a > | handy > | list of commands available. > | > | > | Even if there are plans for nice UIs for Metacello at some time, we > | should > | take care that we create a nice programming interface :) > | > | On 2012-08-01, at 12:01, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > | wrote: > | > | > Hi guys > | > > | > Configuration should not be only in metacello repository. Think > | > objects! > | > Now how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring > | > browser repository? > | > should we fork it for real. I think that we should migrate from > | > squeak source really soon now. > | > > | > Stef > | > > | > > | > | > | >

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

by Sean P. DeNigris

Igor Stasenko wrote > > yeeah.. unfortunately, wordpress.com seems like don't supports that > plugin.. or maybe it does, but i don't know where to look for (if you > can help, it will be nice) > Per http://en.support.wordpress.com/plugins/ : "Plugins... are only applicable to self-hosted blogs and web sites using the WordPress.org software. Plugins are not permitted here at WordPress.com for various security reasons." -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Going-meta-VM-development-tp4642146p4642462.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 6076: Pharo 2.0 Jenkins build trigger not working

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > please give Jenkins a few minutes to trigger a build and let me know if it > happened or not. > It seems that the Pharo 2.0 build is being correctly triggered again as of build "#243, Aug 1, 2012 2:43:47 AM, 2.0 #20237". I'm closing the issue. Let me know if there are any more problems. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Issue-6076-Pharo-2-0-Jenkins-build-trigger-not-workin… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

by Dale Henrichs

Cami, As Patrik has mentioned the Metacello scripting api is headed in this direction ... for example the following expression provides a list of the Pier configurations in the squeaksource MetacelloRepository: Metacello new configuration: [:spec | spec name beginsWith: 'Pier']; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; list. You can download all of the Pier configurations to your image with this expression: Metacello new configuration: [:spec | spec name beginsWith: 'Pier']; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; get. Then you can load a particular configuration like this: Metacello new configuration: 'Pier2'; version: #stable; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; load. So the Configuration itself is not the focus of the API ... the class Metacello implements the api, but the api is intended for the manipulation of configurations ... There's a User Guider[1] for the API that covers most of the commands and a Reference Manual with more details (and more work to be done). I've just announced a preview release on the Metacello list where I'm looking for feedback on the api, so now is the perfect time for you to chime in. I am interested in providing support along the lines of `publish` and `update`, but I have to have more details of what those commands will do... I've built into the framework some capabilities for extensions ... for example the pharo-specific commands might look something like this: Metallo pharo configuration: 'Pier2'; publish. The preview is functional and I expect some folks to actually start using it in their day to day work with the caveat that the api will change as I get feedback. Finally the Metacello class is very small and intended to be included in the base images for both Squeak and Pharo. Metacello is bootstrapped when you execute one of the commands ... I expect the preview period to run through ESUG, so we can talk in person then... Dale [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloUse… [2] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloScr… ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Camillo Bruni" <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 4:32:11 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository | | exactly! | | http://guides.rubygems.org/ | | We should have a services where you can do: | | ConfigurationOfFoo publish. | | which will upload it to a central Metacello repository as well. | So you always find the bleeding edge config in the project's repos | and | the more stable ones in the main metacello repository. | | ConfigurationOfFoo update. | | | Now I would like to have a more 'gem' like interface for metacello. | Simply do a `gem help commands` in your terminal and you'll see a | handy | list of commands available. | | | Even if there are plans for nice UIs for Metacello at some time, we | should | take care that we create a nice programming interface :) | | On 2012-08-01, at 12:01, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> | wrote: | | > Hi guys | > | > Configuration should not be only in metacello repository. Think | > objects! | > Now how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring | > browser repository? | > should we fork it for real. I think that we should migrate from | > squeak source really soon now. | > | > Stef | > | > | | |

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 August 2012 14:57, John McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > A few years back the interpreted virtual machine was fixed to allow an image > to grow to the 4 GB limit. > It is unclear to me if someone regressed the software to impose a 2GB limit > again, or if the 2GB number > mentioned is based on how things worked10 years ago? > > John, it is mainly about windows VM , where the limit is hardcoded to 512MB of virtual memory. I don't remember what exactly Andreas said about it, but he strongly does not recommends to go over that limit. (I played with the limit and tried a VM with 1GB limit.. it works fine, but i didn't tested it with images whose size is close to it) and maybe 2GB will work as well, but i haven't tried it. > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:01 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:46 PM, johnmci wrote: >> >> > David Lewis and I spent a far amount of time a few years back to make >> > the 32 >> > vm 4gb clean. So are you running on stale knowledge here, or does the vm >> > crash when to goes over 2gb? >> >> sorry my english limit does not let me know understanding what you mean >> exactly. >> Jannik in the context of moose would like to see if we can have image >> larger than 500 mb (on mac it should be possible). >> >> Stef >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> > http://forum.world.st/Memory-usage-tp4641108p4642349.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> >> > > > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > iPhone Apps. http://www.wikiserver.com Twitter: squeaker68882 > =========================================================================== > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 August 2012 14:54, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Other than that, I'll look at how we can solve this one. > ah.. don't waste your time on something which is not significant. a usual posts is going to be like: - okay i installed/built VM like that, that and that.. or i added this feature/fixed this, now it works and you can download it from ... or if you using plugin X/platform Y, to build VM , do not forget about Z.. etc etc so, it don't needs to be in highly malleable format such as markdown > > 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> >> On 1 August 2012 12:54, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >> > Wouldn't this fulfill both requirements ? >> > >> > http://digwp.com/2010/06/blogging-in-markdown/ >> > >> > Phil >> > >> yeeah.. unfortunately, wordpress.com seems like don't supports that >> plugin.. or maybe it does, but i don't know where to look for (if you >> can help, it will be nice) >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 1, 2012