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Re: [Pharo-project] latam mirror down?

by Dale Henrichs

Frank, The rationale for turning on the latam mirror was driven by metacello bootstrapping concerns (metacello is bootstrapped from squeaksource/gemsource so isn't sensitive to squeaksource being down) but the desire to use the latam mirror for other configs that may be loaded like omnibrowser, profstef, etc.... those were the issues I was running into when squeaksource was down for several days and I was trying to get work done ... I just threw the switch to the latam mirror and didn't have to worry about it until now... If squeaksource decides to go down now, there is no latam mirror and that is a real problem! There are configuration level things that folks can do like providing two repositories in the specification, but not everyone does that and I'm not sure that the logic for trying different schemes for supplying the schemes is a Metacello responsibility ... I liked the latam solution because it is a developer decision to switch repositories, not a default action by Metacello when it "thinks" that a repository is down and switches to another repository without the developer being aware of what's going on ... In the large I agree that solutions are needed, but I'm not convinced that Metacello is the right place to manage these choices (especially given the fact that you can specify mulitiple repositories in a configuration so that you can explicitly define the primary, secondary, tertiarty, etc. repository). Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:02:31 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] latam mirror down? | | On 22 August 2012 15:16, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: | > Yes, it's the travis builds ... It's more than | > ObjectsAsMethodsWrapper, because once the mirror is installed all | > squeaksource requests are routed to the mirror, so failing to load | > ObjectsAsMethodsWrapper is not the only issue. | > | > I am unconditionally using the mirror in the Travis images... | > | > I will now have to make a flag in the builder to allow one to | > choose whether to use the mirror or not ... that way when | > squeaksource flakes out you can use the mirror (assuming the | > mirror is resurrected ... it's been down for days) and use | > squeaksource when it is available ... | | Isn't a flag more complicated than a fall-over? In other words, try | SS, fail, use LatAm (or vice versa). My hacks for | ConfigurationOfControl class >> bootstrapPackage:from: did this, and | I'd like to think they don't completely suck. | | Otherwise your build fails and you have to edit its invocation to get | it to work, by which time source A has disappeared and source B's | back | up, so you unflick the flag and ... | | There's a thought half-formed in my head. It's something like this: a | configuration says "I'm built out of parts called foo, bar and baz. | Where they come from I don't care." Something else (by default, at | least) does the searching, trying various well-known configurations. | Er, I guess something a bit like Maven's repository mirrors: | http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-mirror-settings.html. | | But that's more of a long term solution, and not something you'd want | to get into just before ESUG. | | frank | | > Dale | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> | > | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > | Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:54:15 AM | > | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] latam mirror down? | > | | > | On 21 August 2012 22:20, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | > | wrote: | > | > http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ | > | > | > | > http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ | > | | > | It's down for me too. I'm assuming it's your Travis builds | > | failing | > | like mine are. One option that occurs to me is to convert | > | ObjectsAsMethodsWrapper to filetree and store a copy on GitHub? | > | GitHub | > | have rather more resources to through at availability than we do, | > | so | > | we might as well take advantage. | > | | > | frank | > | | > | | > | |

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some docs on NativeBoost

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks! I will read it after camille master and probably before :) simon article :) Stef On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 22 August 2012 18:51, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Igor >> >> always think to provide actionable information in a requesting mail. >> So where is the gofer snippet to load the native boost help? >> > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'NativeBoost'; > package: 'NativeBoost-Help'; > load > >> Stef >> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> i am poor guy, learning how to write a documentation properly.. >>> (ehh.. i am one who prefers reading it instead of writing ;) >>> >>> So, to anyone interested , you can load the NativeBoost-Help package from >>> sqs/NativeBoost repository. >>> >>> The package is autonomous (you don't need NB installed neither special VM). >>> You can see the things i wrote by opening a system help browser (from >>> world menu) >>> or by invoking: >>> >>> NBHelp open >>> >>> I need your feedback and comments. and of course correstions, because >>> my english is quite poor. >>> - today i worked on pages >>> - Type system >>> - Calling an external functions >>> >>> so, please put more attention to those ones. >>> >>> Cya :) >>> P.S. ah.. yes.. don't be surprised that when you first time opening >>> it, it will go to monticello and load the code. >>> It is automagic process to load the markdown syntax parser, which i >>> using to author the pages and style them properly. >>> (i hope you like styled help). >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some docs on NativeBoost

by Igor Stasenko

On 22 August 2012 18:51, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Igor > > always think to provide actionable information in a requesting mail. > So where is the gofer snippet to load the native boost help? > Gofer it squeaksource: 'NativeBoost'; package: 'NativeBoost-Help'; load > Stef > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> i am poor guy, learning how to write a documentation properly.. >> (ehh.. i am one who prefers reading it instead of writing ;) >> >> So, to anyone interested , you can load the NativeBoost-Help package from >> sqs/NativeBoost repository. >> >> The package is autonomous (you don't need NB installed neither special VM). >> You can see the things i wrote by opening a system help browser (from >> world menu) >> or by invoking: >> >> NBHelp open >> >> I need your feedback and comments. and of course correstions, because >> my english is quite poor. >> - today i worked on pages >> - Type system >> - Calling an external functions >> >> so, please put more attention to those ones. >> >> Cya :) >> P.S. ah.. yes.. don't be surprised that when you first time opening >> it, it will go to monticello and load the code. >> It is automagic process to load the markdown syntax parser, which i >> using to author the pages and style them properly. >> (i hope you like styled help). >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some docs on NativeBoost

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Igor always think to provide actionable information in a requesting mail. So where is the gofer snippet to load the native boost help? Stef On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > i am poor guy, learning how to write a documentation properly.. > (ehh.. i am one who prefers reading it instead of writing ;) > > So, to anyone interested , you can load the NativeBoost-Help package from > sqs/NativeBoost repository. > > The package is autonomous (you don't need NB installed neither special VM). > You can see the things i wrote by opening a system help browser (from > world menu) > or by invoking: > > NBHelp open > > I need your feedback and comments. and of course correstions, because > my english is quite poor. > - today i worked on pages > - Type system > - Calling an external functions > > so, please put more attention to those ones. > > Cya :) > P.S. ah.. yes.. don't be surprised that when you first time opening > it, it will go to monticello and load the code. > It is automagic process to load the markdown syntax parser, which i > using to author the pages and style them properly. > (i hope you like styled help). > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Aug. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] Hw do we organize the camp?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi pharoers I would like to see how we can organize the ESUG camp to be efficient at least the sunday :). May be we should tag some topics or bug entries so that people can start helping straight. I will not be able to attend saturday but I will be present sunday. Stef

Aug. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] poll reminder

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, Just a reminder. The poll is still on: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dFZKeXU… please, answer it... they are just 3 questions! (in fact many people think there are too few questions :) thanks, Esteban

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Show Implementation Periscope Plugin

by Pavel Krivanek

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Benjamin > <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> You are teasing my curiosity :) >> >> Which error ? > > I talk about this one but there is much more things that I need to > discuss with you: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6591 Thank you for the fix, Spotlight plugin is working now (including Shift+Enter keyboard shortcut) -- Pavel

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Show Implementation Periscope Plugin

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

It is really looking more and more exciting. Stef On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > I added more tools and created the iconic representation of them. Then > I created a simple plugin that shows method stamp (and opens version > browser when clickin on it). I started with Spotlight plugin but it is > not working now because of an error in Spec. When will Ben come back > from vacation? > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> excellent. >> So no windows plague just information :) >> >> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I created a plugin for Periscope that shows implementors of the >>> message related to the current text cursor together with >>> implementation source code preview. For classes and traits it shows >>> the definition. Warning: it is not perfect but very habit-forming ;-) >>> >>> To load Periscope to recent 2.0 image, evaluate: >>> >>> Gofer new >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'PavelKrivanek' project: 'Periscope'; >>> package: 'Periscope'; >>> load. >>> >>> Nautilus pluginClasses add: {(Smalltalk at: #NautilusPeriscopePlugin). #none} >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >> >> > <PeriscopeScreenshot.png>

Aug. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] Versionner screencast

by Juan Pablo Sandoval Alcocer

Hi all, I would like to share Versionner screencast http://youtu.be/6x0nsd9U4OE You can find more about Versionner here: http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~jsandova/versionner. Including the install instructions and screenshots. Regards, Juan Pablo

Aug. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Catching a Monkey

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-08-22, at 17:11, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Cool :) > > Now, also, the CI project is included into the 2.0 core image. well not fully everything, since we need an XML parser to create and change new entries...

Aug. 22, 2012