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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> > > Sure. And maybe I would have, if I didn't first have to get a Pharo > 2.0 image and then install it and then figure out the various new APIs > and so on and so on. So instead I wimped out and asked a clear > question in a place where the experts on the relevant APIs would have > a chance to see it :P :) >>> and the relevant code (I think) is >>> >>> transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory >>> / transcriptFileName) readStream >>> >> so, why you don't just wrap this thing with exception handler? >> >> [ transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) >> workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) readStream >> >> ] on: Error do: [ aha... somethign wrong with that file ] >> >> this will prevent image from bailing out to OS. :) > > Well, no. Catching Error is a terrible idea. I'll just touch the file > if it doesn't already exist. > > Thanks for taking the trouble to answer the question, Igor. If it's > any consolation, this means Dale & I can get our CI stuff working for > Pharo 2.0 that must quicker. Pay attention that 2.0 is bleeding edge for real. We will take some action this week to improve the situation. Stef

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Gaucho? (was Re: Breaking another dependency to Compiler (related to Traits I think))

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > Fernando, > > Just curious, are there more news besides this > http://www.inf.usi.ch/phd/olivero/gaucho/home.html > and your 2010 ESUG presentation? > > I assume Gaucho is part of your PhD disserationâ¦ gaucho now works on top of athens and the event model changes we introduce. Stef

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by Frank Shearar

On 31 August 2012 17:23, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 August 2012 18:00, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31 August 2012 16:43, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 31 August 2012 08:10, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 31 August 2012 05:04, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: >>>>> Frank, >>>>> >>>>> I'll try to get the Pharo-2.0 build for builderCI working soon ... >>>> >>>> I _think_ it'll be as simple as figuring out how to say "open this >>>> file, creating it first if necessary" in FileSystem-speak. I realise >>>> you've not done Metacello+Pharo2 yet, and asked on list hoping that >>>> one of the FS folk would pipe up with something :) >>>> >>> >>> 'asdasd' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [:s | >>> s nextPutAll: 'baz' ] >> >> But for reading? My debug output's here: >> >> http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2288671 >> > reading non-existent file? > > you know, you can always test if file exists before trying to open it. I had mentioned that in the original mail. > ref := 'asdasd' asFileReference. > (ref exists and: [ ref isFile and: [ ref isReadable ]]) ifTrue: [ ref > readStream ....] > > i never used FS before.. so to post the code above, i vent to system browser, > and read some method names in FileReference class. > This is something what you can do by yourself, isn't? :) Sure. And maybe I would have, if I didn't first have to get a Pharo 2.0 image and then install it and then figure out the various new APIs and so on and so on. So instead I wimped out and asked a clear question in a place where the experts on the relevant APIs would have a chance to see it :P >> and the relevant code (I think) is >> >> transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory >> / transcriptFileName) readStream >> > so, why you don't just wrap this thing with exception handler? > > [ transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) > workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) readStream > > ] on: Error do: [ aha... somethign wrong with that file ] > > this will prevent image from bailing out to OS. :) Well, no. Catching Error is a terrible idea. I'll just touch the file if it doesn't already exist. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer the question, Igor. If it's any consolation, this means Dale & I can get our CI stuff working for Pharo 2.0 that must quicker. frank >> where transcriptFileName = 'TravisTranscript.txt'. >> >> The "old style" file handling works, and says this: >> >> transcriptStream := fileDirectoryClass default newFileNamed: >> transcriptFileName >> >> frank >> >>>> frank >>>> >>>>> Dale >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> >>>>> | To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>>> | Cc: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> >>>>> | Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:52:37 PM >>>>> | Subject: Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ? >>>>> | >>>>> | Hi Dale, >>>>> | >>>>> | I'm getting a build failure against Pharo 2.0 [1] with the error >>>>> | "FileDoesNotExist: >>>>> | /home/travis/dalehenrich-builderCI-cd2facd/builds/travisCI/TravisTranscript.txt". >>>>> | >>>>> | I think that's because the before.st says "transcriptStream := >>>>> | ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) >>>>> | readStream ]" and that file doesn't exist. >>>>> | >>>>> | Is there a convenient way of saying "please open a readStream on this >>>>> | file and, if it's not there, make one" ? >>>>> | >>>>> | (If one semi-replicates the build, by opening a Pharo 2.0 image, >>>>> | manually loading the ConfigurationOfControl, and running >>>>> | "ConfigurationOfControl loadDevelopment", one will see Control >>>>> | 1.1.dev >>>>> | running with a green light for Pharo 2.0!) >>>>> | >>>>> | frank >>>>> | >>>>> | [1] http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2282004 >>>>> | >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by Igor Stasenko

And.. basic rule of thumb for headless mode: if you don't want image to leave to OS, put an exception handler around your code. Because in headless mode , an UnhandledException by default quits to OS (logging an error before that, of course) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 18:00, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 August 2012 16:43, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31 August 2012 08:10, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 31 August 2012 05:04, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: >>>> Frank, >>>> >>>> I'll try to get the Pharo-2.0 build for builderCI working soon ... >>> >>> I _think_ it'll be as simple as figuring out how to say "open this >>> file, creating it first if necessary" in FileSystem-speak. I realise >>> you've not done Metacello+Pharo2 yet, and asked on list hoping that >>> one of the FS folk would pipe up with something :) >>> >> >> 'asdasd' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [:s | >> s nextPutAll: 'baz' ] > > But for reading? My debug output's here: > > http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2288671 > reading non-existent file? you know, you can always test if file exists before trying to open it. ref := 'asdasd' asFileReference. (ref exists and: [ ref isFile and: [ ref isReadable ]]) ifTrue: [ ref readStream ....] i never used FS before.. so to post the code above, i vent to system browser, and read some method names in FileReference class. This is something what you can do by yourself, isn't? :) > and the relevant code (I think) is > > transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory > / transcriptFileName) readStream > so, why you don't just wrap this thing with exception handler? [ transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) readStream ] on: Error do: [ aha... somethign wrong with that file ] this will prevent image from bailing out to OS. :) > where transcriptFileName = 'TravisTranscript.txt'. > > The "old style" file handling works, and says this: > > transcriptStream := fileDirectoryClass default newFileNamed: > transcriptFileName > > frank > >>> frank >>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> >>>> | To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> | Cc: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> >>>> | Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:52:37 PM >>>> | Subject: Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ? >>>> | >>>> | Hi Dale, >>>> | >>>> | I'm getting a build failure against Pharo 2.0 [1] with the error >>>> | "FileDoesNotExist: >>>> | /home/travis/dalehenrich-builderCI-cd2facd/builds/travisCI/TravisTranscript.txt". >>>> | >>>> | I think that's because the before.st says "transcriptStream := >>>> | ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) >>>> | readStream ]" and that file doesn't exist. >>>> | >>>> | Is there a convenient way of saying "please open a readStream on this >>>> | file and, if it's not there, make one" ? >>>> | >>>> | (If one semi-replicates the build, by opening a Pharo 2.0 image, >>>> | manually loading the ConfigurationOfControl, and running >>>> | "ConfigurationOfControl loadDevelopment", one will see Control >>>> | 1.1.dev >>>> | running with a green light for Pharo 2.0!) >>>> | >>>> | frank >>>> | >>>> | [1] http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2282004 >>>> | >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by Frank Shearar

On 31 August 2012 16:43, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 August 2012 08:10, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31 August 2012 05:04, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: >>> Frank, >>> >>> I'll try to get the Pharo-2.0 build for builderCI working soon ... >> >> I _think_ it'll be as simple as figuring out how to say "open this >> file, creating it first if necessary" in FileSystem-speak. I realise >> you've not done Metacello+Pharo2 yet, and asked on list hoping that >> one of the FS folk would pipe up with something :) >> > > 'asdasd' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [:s | > s nextPutAll: 'baz' ] But for reading? My debug output's here: http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2288671 and the relevant code (I think) is transcriptStream := ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) readStream where transcriptFileName = 'TravisTranscript.txt'. The "old style" file handling works, and says this: transcriptStream := fileDirectoryClass default newFileNamed: transcriptFileName frank >> frank >> >>> Dale >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> >>> | To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> | Cc: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> >>> | Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:52:37 PM >>> | Subject: Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ? >>> | >>> | Hi Dale, >>> | >>> | I'm getting a build failure against Pharo 2.0 [1] with the error >>> | "FileDoesNotExist: >>> | /home/travis/dalehenrich-builderCI-cd2facd/builds/travisCI/TravisTranscript.txt". >>> | >>> | I think that's because the before.st says "transcriptStream := >>> | ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) >>> | readStream ]" and that file doesn't exist. >>> | >>> | Is there a convenient way of saying "please open a readStream on this >>> | file and, if it's not there, make one" ? >>> | >>> | (If one semi-replicates the build, by opening a Pharo 2.0 image, >>> | manually loading the ConfigurationOfControl, and running >>> | "ConfigurationOfControl loadDevelopment", one will see Control >>> | 1.1.dev >>> | running with a green light for Pharo 2.0!) >>> | >>> | frank >>> | >>> | [1] http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2282004 >>> | >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ?

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 08:10, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 August 2012 05:04, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: >> Frank, >> >> I'll try to get the Pharo-2.0 build for builderCI working soon ... > > I _think_ it'll be as simple as figuring out how to say "open this > file, creating it first if necessary" in FileSystem-speak. I realise > you've not done Metacello+Pharo2 yet, and asked on list hoping that > one of the FS folk would pipe up with something :) > 'asdasd' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [:s | s nextPutAll: 'baz' ] > frank > >> Dale >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> >> | To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> | Cc: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> >> | Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:52:37 PM >> | Subject: Pharo 2.0 + Travis = ? >> | >> | Hi Dale, >> | >> | I'm getting a build failure against Pharo 2.0 [1] with the error >> | "FileDoesNotExist: >> | /home/travis/dalehenrich-builderCI-cd2facd/builds/travisCI/TravisTranscript.txt". >> | >> | I think that's because the before.st says "transcriptStream := >> | ((Smalltalk at: #FileSystem) workingDirectory / transcriptFileName) >> | readStream ]" and that file doesn't exist. >> | >> | Is there a convenient way of saying "please open a readStream on this >> | file and, if it's not there, make one" ? >> | >> | (If one semi-replicates the build, by opening a Pharo 2.0 image, >> | manually loading the ConfigurationOfControl, and running >> | "ConfigurationOfControl loadDevelopment", one will see Control >> | 1.1.dev >> | running with a green light for Pharo 2.0!) >> | >> | frank >> | >> | [1] http://travis-ci.org/#!/frankshearar/Control/jobs/2282004 >> | > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] What happens with Warning when running in headless image (2.0)?

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 15:24, GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Igor. > > Here, in a linux box, I guess that this warning occurs and raise the > NonInteractiveUIManager exception, and is showed in stdout when I run in > headless mode. > you'd better wait for Camillo's reply then. Because originally, i wrote that code , so it was ignoring warnings. Then Camillo is added some steroids to it, so an image(s) became far more friendly to consoles, including headless mode. > > 2012/8/31 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> >> in headless mode all warnings are suppressed (so they don't interfere). >> i'm not sure if it prints something on stdout.. >> it could be that it simply ignored and continues running the stuff. >> >> On 31 August 2012 14:11, GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hello. >> > >> > I install Seaside in a Pharo 1.4 summer image. Then I run it in headless >> > from console and I go to the /status app, and a "MessageNotUnderstood: >> > >> > NonInteractiveUIManager>>openDebuggerOn:context:label:contents:fullView:" >> > exception occurs and the vm close. >> > >> > Then I run this image in gui and an "Deprecation: The method >> > SmalltalkImage>>isRunningCog has been deprecated." dialog box are >> > raised. I >> > evaluate Deprecation raiseWarning: false but no take effect, the dialog >> > is >> > raised anyway. >> > >> > Maybe another is correct way to disable raise deprecation? >> > >> > 2012/8/31 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> >> if run from the command line you should get a decent error message... >> >> >> >> what kind of error do you get? >> >> >> >> BTW: just show me the code and I'll fix it :P >> >> >> >> On 2012-08-31, at 07:24, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'm running a headless pharo2.0 from a script and the vm disappears >> >> > without a trace (no pharodebug.log info etc.) ... when I run the >> >> > script in a >> >> > gui, I see that a warning dialog box is popping up, so perhaps this >> >> > is the >> >> > source of the issue? ... or perhaps it's something else? >> >> > >> >> > Dale >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo summer is 14557 or 14457?

by Esteban Lorenzano

oops! I will fix it :P thanks, Esteban On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:40 PM, GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I download Pharo-1.4-14557-OneClick.zip (named Pharo Summer in Pharo website), but this image in "System -> About..." dialog is showing Latest update: #14457. But in CI lastest is 1.4 #14459. Maybe it is a typo in zip file name? > > Another little type, in Linux script of Pharo-1.3-13328-OneClick.zip, exec "$BASE/pharo" should be exec "$BASE/CogVM". > > Regards.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo summer is 14557 or 14457?

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

please, take some time and submit an issue. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list thanks On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:40 AM, GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio < gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I download Pharo-1.4-14557-OneClick.zip (named Pharo Summer in Pharo > website), but this image in "System -> About..." dialog is showing Latest > update: #14457. But in CI lastest is 1.4 #14459. Maybe it is a typo in zip > file name? > > Another little type, in Linux script of Pharo-1.3-13328-OneClick.zip, exec > "$BASE/pharo" should be exec "$BASE/CogVM". > > Regards. > -- Bernardo E.C.

Aug. 31, 2012