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[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1130: 22200 Categorize Manifests into "Manifest" tag and fix sending deprecâ¦

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1130 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #1592 was integrated: "22200 Categorize Manifests into "Manifest" tag and fix sending deprecâ¦" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1592 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22200 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

July 25, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1129: 22197 Categorize uncategorized classes in TraitsV2

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1129 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #1591 was integrated: "22197 Categorize uncategorized classes in TraitsV2" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1591 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22197 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

July 24, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] fixing font aliasing/sizing for a specific font

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 24 Jul 2018, at 11:30, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Thanks for the question and motivation to do a text rendering quality comparison. > > I think you forgot that Pharo does not support "retina" or "hi-dpi" displays. Imagine you have a laptop screen with the resolution of (3840x2160). Pixels are so small, that UI gets almost unreadable. Therefore OS has to scale the whole interface with for example scale factor 2 (can be changed in settings). Interesting is that now programs think the resolution is 1920x1080. Pharo thinks same too, so it renders the whole UI in 1080p and then it gets upscaled to 4K which results in the blurry interface. > > Programs have to support "hi-dpi" screens explicitly. Bloc for example, when opened in SDL2 native window supports retina screens and delivers very beautiful graphics. > The process is quite simple: SDL2 windows provide two types of extent: > â¢ window extent - scaled window size in dp (in our example it would be 1080p) > â¢ canvas extent - real canvas size in px (in our example it would be 4K) > we can get scale factor by dividing canvas extent / window extent. Next we create a Bloc canvas of size equal to window canvas extent (4K) provided by SDL2 and scale the whole graphic scene by previously computed scale factor 2 while actually rendering everything in window extent coordinates (1080p). It can be easily done since Bloc is vector graphics. I would like to emphasise that everything in bloc is based on dp and not px. > > 1dp = 1px * scaling factor. > > Coming back to the text rendering issue :) > The correct experiment would be to take a non-retina monitor and do the comparison, then take a retina monitor and repeat the same comparison process making sure that all tested programs have support of retina screens. This way we compare Bloc with web browsers in the same environment. > > Below are the results: > > (non-retina) > <Text Rendering Non-Retina.png> > > (retina) > <Text Rendering Retina.png> > > When zoomed-in (download pictures, they are .png) we can see that the text rendering quality in Bloc is as good as in other modern web-browsers. Indeed, there are very minor differences between all of them, but perceived quality is on the same level, especially in "retina" case. Looks really impressive! > P.S. Compared on OSX with Arial font. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On 24 July 2018 at 10:09, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On 24 July 2018 at 15:07, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to understand how exactly Pharo renders fonts and aliases them. > > I want to use Segoe UI (which is the default Windows 10 font for UI), however when rendered in Pharo it is blurry, and for size 9 and light hinting it actually produces incorrect size. > > Here is a comparsion (100%) > > <image.png> > and 300% > > <image.png> > > You can see how blurry and bold the fonts are compared to MS word/Chrome/Firefox. Even Bloc should use the same rendering engine as Firefox, but seems to suffer from the same^1. > (Note that fonts size 7 and 8 is ok... the font starts at size 8.) > > I've tried digging through the settings and FreeTypeSettings methods, but couldn't find anything that would help me fix this. > > Any pointers appreciated. > > Thanks, > Peter > > ^1 Note for Bloc: I couldn't figure out how to specify the font size in points instead of pixels, so maybe that's why it is much more compact horizontally. > > Could you clarify... are "light" "normal" "full" and "none" done through Morphic without Bloc ? > > Are you on a high-dpi screen? I'm not very familiar with this, but you could try experimenting... > http://windows10_dpi_blurry_fix.xpexplorer.com/ > https://www.howtogeek.com/175664/how-to-make-the-windows-desktop-work-well-… > > cheers -ben >

July 24, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] fixing font aliasing/sizing for a specific font

by Aliaksei Syrel

Hi Peter, Thanks for the question and motivation to do a text rendering quality comparison. I think you forgot that Pharo does not support "retina" or "hi-dpi" displays. Imagine you have a laptop screen with the resolution of (3840x2160). Pixels are so small, that UI gets almost unreadable. Therefore OS has to scale the whole interface with for example scale factor 2 (can be changed in settings). Interesting is that now programs think the resolution is 1920x1080. Pharo thinks same too, so it renders the whole UI in 1080p and then it gets upscaled to 4K which results in the blurry interface. Programs have to support "hi-dpi" screens explicitly. Bloc for example, when opened in SDL2 native window supports retina screens and delivers very beautiful graphics. The process is quite simple: SDL2 windows provide two types of extent: - window extent - scaled window size in dp (in our example it would be 1080p) - canvas extent - real canvas size in px (in our example it would be 4K) we can get scale factor by dividing canvas extent / window extent. Next we create a Bloc canvas of size equal to window canvas extent (4K) provided by SDL2 and scale the whole graphic scene by previously computed scale factor 2 while actually rendering everything in window extent coordinates (1080p). It can be easily done since Bloc is vector graphics. I would like to emphasise that everything in bloc is based on dp and not px. 1dp = 1px * scaling factor. Coming back to the text rendering issue :) The correct experiment would be to take a non-retina monitor and do the comparison, then take a retina monitor and repeat the same comparison process making sure that all tested programs have support of retina screens. This way we compare Bloc with web browsers in the same environment. Below are the results: *(non-retina)* *(retina)* When zoomed-in (download pictures, they are .png) we can see that the text rendering quality in Bloc is as good as in other modern web-browsers. Indeed, there are very minor differences between all of them, but perceived quality is on the same level, especially in "retina" case. P.S. Compared on OSX with *Arial* font. Cheers, Alex On 24 July 2018 at 10:09, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On 24 July 2018 at 15:07, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to understand how exactly Pharo renders fonts and aliases them. >> >> I want to use Segoe UI (which is the default Windows 10 font for UI), >> however when rendered in Pharo it is blurry, and for size 9 and light >> hinting it actually produces incorrect size. >> >> Here is a comparsion (100%) >> >> >> and 300% >> >> >> >> You can see how blurry and bold the fonts are compared to MS >> word/Chrome/Firefox. Even Bloc should use the same rendering engine as >> Firefox, but seems to suffer from the same^1. >> (Note that fonts size 7 and 8 is ok... the font starts at size 8.) >> >> I've tried digging through the settings and FreeTypeSettings methods, but >> couldn't find anything that would help me fix this. >> >> Any pointers appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> >> ^1 Note for Bloc: I couldn't figure out how to specify the font size in >> points instead of pixels, so maybe that's why it is much more compact >> horizontally. >> > > Could you clarify... are "light" "normal" "full" and "none" done through > Morphic without Bloc ? > > Are you on a high-dpi screen? I'm not very familiar with this, but you > could try experimenting... > http://windows10_dpi_blurry_fix.xpexplorer.com/ > https://www.howtogeek.com/175664/how-to-make-the-windows- > desktop-work-well-on-high-dpi-displays-and-fix-blurry-fonts/ > > cheers -ben >

July 24, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1128: 22277-nextNameForextension-is-bogus

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1128 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #1646 was integrated: "22277-nextNameForextension-is-bogus" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1646 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22277 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

July 24, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] fixing font aliasing/sizing for a specific font

by Ben Coman

On 24 July 2018 at 15:07, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to understand how exactly Pharo renders fonts and aliases them. > > I want to use Segoe UI (which is the default Windows 10 font for UI), > however when rendered in Pharo it is blurry, and for size 9 and light > hinting it actually produces incorrect size. > > Here is a comparsion (100%) > > > and 300% > > > > You can see how blurry and bold the fonts are compared to MS > word/Chrome/Firefox. Even Bloc should use the same rendering engine as > Firefox, but seems to suffer from the same^1. > (Note that fonts size 7 and 8 is ok... the font starts at size 8.) > > I've tried digging through the settings and FreeTypeSettings methods, but > couldn't find anything that would help me fix this. > > Any pointers appreciated. > > Thanks, > Peter > > ^1 Note for Bloc: I couldn't figure out how to specify the font size in > points instead of pixels, so maybe that's why it is much more compact > horizontally. > Could you clarify... are "light" "normal" "full" and "none" done through Morphic without Bloc ? Are you on a high-dpi screen? I'm not very familiar with this, but you could try experimenting... http://windows10_dpi_blurry_fix.xpexplorer.com/ https://www.howtogeek.com/175664/how-to-make-the-windows-desktop-work-well-… cheers -ben

July 24, 2018

fixing font aliasing/sizing for a specific font

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, I'm trying to understand how exactly Pharo renders fonts and aliases them. I want to use Segoe UI (which is the default Windows 10 font for UI), however when rendered in Pharo it is blurry, and for size 9 and light hinting it actually produces incorrect size. Here is a comparsion (100%) and 300% You can see how blurry and bold the fonts are compared to MS word/Chrome/Firefox. Even Bloc should use the same rendering engine as Firefox, but seems to suffer from the same^1. (Note that fonts size 7 and 8 is ok... the font starts at size 8.) I've tried digging through the settings and FreeTypeSettings methods, but couldn't find anything that would help me fix this. Any pointers appreciated. Thanks, Peter ^1 Note for Bloc: I couldn't figure out how to specify the font size in points instead of pixels, so maybe that's why it is much more compact horizontally.

July 24, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 16 July 2018

by Ben Coman

On 23 July 2018 at 14:00, <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello! > > This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 16 July 2018 to 22 July 2018. > You can see it in a better format by going here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=16/7/2018&to=22/7/2018 > > ChangeLog > ========= > > 19 July 2018: > ------------- > > * Back from holidays :) > > I'm slowly resuming work... right now I'm still dealing with the Win64 VM (no news right now). Nice to hear you are plugging away at it. It will be good to allow big images on Windows. cheers -ben

July 23, 2018

Esteban's ChangeLog week of 16 July 2018

by estebanlm＠gmail.com

Hello! This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 16 July 2018 to 22 July 2018. You can see it in a better format by going here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=16/7/2018&to=22/7/2018 ChangeLog ========= 19 July 2018: ------------- * Back from holidays :) I'm slowly resuming work... right now I'm still dealing with the Win64 VM (no news right now). cheers! Esteban

July 23, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem with zinc 2.9.2

by Max Leske

On 22 Jul 2018, at 12:10, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Thank you guys! It is really great to see that there are people like > Max jumping onto problems like this and solving it. You're welcome! > > @sven Iâm eager to test when the new configuration is available. > Please drop us a note when you are done! > > thanks again, > > Norbert > >> Am 22.07.2018 um 11:06 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: >> >> Ah, that makes total sense. Great catch. Thank you. >> >> === >> Name: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.17 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 22 July 2018, 11:04:40.148339 am >> UUID: e97a508e-f42d-0d00-a127-f016078b1897 >> Ancestors: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.16 >> >> Bugfix to ZnFileSystemUtils class>>#newBinaryFileNamed:do: we must >> ensure that the binaryStream opened here is closed as well (thx Max >> Leske for the bug hunting and fix) >> === >> >> The method in question now look as follows: >> >> newBinaryFileNamed: fileName do: block >> | fileReference | >> fileReference := fileName asFileReference. >> ^ (fileReference respondsTo: #binaryWriteStreamDo:ifPresent:) >> ifTrue: [ >> fileName asFileReference >> binaryWriteStreamDo: block >> ifPresent: [ FileExists signalWith: fileReference ] ] >> ifFalse: [ >> fileReference isFile >> ifTrue: [ FileExists signalWith: fileReference ] >> ifFalse: [ | binaryStream | >> binaryStream := self binaryFileStreamFor: fileName. >> [ block value: binaryStream ] ensure: [ binaryStream close ] ] ] >> >> I create a new 2.9.4 of the config later on. >> >>> On 21 Jul 2018, at 22:00, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sven, you're right. What I found last time works as a side-effect. >>> The real problem is in ZnFileSystemUtils >>> class>>newBinaryFileNamed:do:. In Pharo 6.1 the logic there leads to >>> the following evaluation: >>> >>> block value: (self binaryFileStreamFor: fileName) >>> >>> This is the only place where the stream is created without a >>> surrounding safety block (e.g. #writeStream:do:), which means, no >>> one closes the stream. The line should be: >>> >>> | s | >>> s := self binaryFileStreamFor: fileName. >>> [ block value: s ] ensure: [ s close ] >>> >>> ZnFileSystemUtils class>>newBinaryFileNamed:do: is only used by >>> ZnClient after loading Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.472, which is >>> being loaded by version 2.9.1 of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max >>> >>> On 21 Jul 2018, at 17:21, Max Leske wrote: >>> >>> Just to be safe, I'll redo my experiment and get back to you. >>> >>> On 21 Jul 2018, at 16:59, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> I tried running Max's snippet (Pharo 6.1 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS), >>> >>> ZnClient new >>> url: 'https://github.com/zweidenker/Parasol/archive/master.zip'; >>> downloadTo: '/tmp/foobar.zip'. >>> bytes := '/tmp/foobar.zip' asFileReference binaryReadStreamDo: [ :s >>> | s contents ]. >>> Transcript open; show: bytes size; cr. >>> 5 seconds asDelay wait. >>> Transcript show: ('/tmp/foobar.zip' asFileReference >>> binaryReadStreamDo: [ :s | s contents ]) size. >>> >>> And it gives me, >>> >>> 318420 >>> 318420 >>> >>> For me there is nothing nothing to see here ... and I have the >>> impression we are all talking about different things. >>> On 21 Jul 2018, at 14:18, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 21 Jul 2018, at 12:07, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> Max, >>> >>> what do you think will be a proper fix for this? I cannot see if >>> this is a vm problem or not. >>> >>> In my opinion it should be fixed in Zinc as there's no way for the >>> user of Zinc to flush the stream. The alternative would be for Zinc >>> to expose a method or setting that allows the user to specify the >>> expected behaviour. >>> I do not think that this should be handled by the VM plugin or the >>> stream class, as there are indeed different behaviours that make >>> sense. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max >>> Norbert >>> Am 14.07.2018 um 08:25 schrieb Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> Hi Nicolas, >>> >>> The PR you are referring [1] to concerns a missing fflush() when >>> truncating a file. I believe that is a different case to this one, >>> as a) the file is not truncated and b) in the case of truncation it >>> is an explicit requirement that the file be empty before the first >>> write happens. In our case, and in general, it depends on the >>> situation whether flushing must occur immediately, e.g. because the >>> file will be read again immediately, or not, e.g. when writing a >>> data to a backup file. >>> >>> Thanks for the pointer though. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max >>> >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/271 >>> On 12 Jul 2018, at 23:19, Nicolas Cellier wrote: >>> >>> Isn't there a recent PR on opensmalltalk that address just this? >>> Le jeu. 12 juil. 2018 Ã 23:16, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> a >>> Ã©crit : >>> >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> I was able to reproduce the problem and then identify the culprit, >>> although what I don't yet understand is how this is related to the >>> changes >>> in Zinc. >>> >>> Anyway, the problem is that the file stream isn't properly flushed >>> in >>> ZnUtils class>>streamFrom:to:size:. Adding outputStream flush as the >>> last >>> statement fixes your problem. Apparently, StandardFileStream / >>> MultiByteFileStream perform a simple close() on the file which, >>> according >>> to the man page on close(), does *not* guarantee that the contents >>> have >>> all been written to file. In this case a flush is necessary because >>> the >>> entire file is immediately read again. >>> >>> Here's a smaller test case for you to play with Sven: >>> >>> ZnClient new >>> url: 'https://github.com/zweidenker/Parasol/archive/master.zip'; >>> downloadTo: '/tmp/foobar.zip'. >>> bytes := '/tmp/foobar.zip' asFileReference binaryReadStreamDo: [ :s >>> | s contents ]. >>> Transcript open; show: bytes size; cr. >>> 5 seconds asDelay wait. >>> Transcript show: ('/tmp/foobar.zip' asFileReference >>> binaryReadStreamDo: [ :s | s contents ]) size. >>> >>> The output in the Transcript should be: >>> >>> 315392 >>> 318420 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max >>> >>> On 12 Jul 2018, at 8:17, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> Am 12.07.2018 um 08:05 schrieb Max Leske maxleske(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 22:44, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> I constructed a case that fails exactly like I experience it. Could >>> you >>> try? Just unpack the attachment on a linux, set PHARO_VM env to your >>> executable and execute build.sh >>> >>> I will. Might take a couple of days though. >>> >>> No problem. Iâm happy if you find time. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Max >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 10.07.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Max Leske maxleske(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 8:48, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> Max, >>> >>> thanks for taking the effort. >>> >>> No worries. >>> >>> Am 10.07.2018 um 08:37 schrieb Max Leske maxleske(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> I did my best to reproduce the issue but didn't have any luck. I >>> really >>> need access to a Linux VM to debug this. So I'm praying that Apple >>> fixes >>> the access restrictions to kernel extensions in their next beta... >>> >>> BTW, Metacello uses ZnClient, which uses ZnFileSystemUtils, so there >>> is >>> indeed a chance that something goes wrong during download of the zip >>> archive and that something may be tied to a difference in the >>> versions of >>> Zinc (although I still think that's unlikely). >>> >>> Yes there is potential but I donât see it. I take a fresh 6.1 >>> image and >>> load my project into. Iâm not sure but I think zinc 2.9.2 is >>> loaded rather >>> early in that process. So I wonder why it does not go wrong in the >>> first >>> phase. And also not if I load the test group within the first phase. >>> It must be either the second Metacello invocation or the stopping, >>> copying >>> and starting of the image. >>> I try to isolate this case more and provide a script that goes wrong >>> on my >>> machine. But it will take some time because I needed to stop trying >>> to >>> solve this as I wasted nearly two days on that already. >>> >>> Let me know once you have something and I'll try to help out. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Max >>> >>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 19:43, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> Am 09.07.2018 um 19:10 schrieb Max Leske maxleske(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> I checked the Parasol Archive and it does not appear to be in Zip64 >>> format >>> (Metacello uses ZipArchive which can't cope with Zip64 but >>> ZipArchive can >>> read the Parasol zip). So my next guess is that there's either a >>> problem >>> with Metacello or Pharo in the way that ZipArchive is used (e.g. >>> endianness >>> problem or non-binary stream data). It would therefore be helpful to >>> find >>> out what happens in ZipArchive>>readFrom:, i.e. what kind of stream >>> is >>> passed / opened, is it binary, does the file exist and is it still >>> the >>> correct file. >>> >>> I couldnât see anything obvious. The file in the debug message >>> exists, it >>> is a readable zip file. The way Metacello uses it it is a >>> StandardFileStream. It switches it to binary in the code. >>> But the only difference between a working and non-working build is >>> the >>> upgrade to zinc 2.9.2. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> I'd debug it myself but I can't run VirtualBox at the moment because >>> I'm >>> on the macOS beta and it won't start... >>> >>> Max >>> >>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 18:31, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> Am 09.07.2018 um 18:18 schrieb Max Leske maxleske(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> This is a bit of a guess, but it's possible that the archive that is >>> downloaded from github is in Zip64 format and that the libraries for >>> extracting Zip64 are missing on your Linux. That would of course >>> contradict >>> the experience that the same operation appears to work in 6.1. >>> >>> to be honest I donât know what Zip64 format is. I thought the Zip >>> classes >>> are pure smalltalk for unpacking. >>> >>> Try extracting the archive manually on your Linux machine with the >>> same >>> method that Metacello uses (I assume, Metacello uses the ZipPlugin, >>> which >>> will probably use the system libraries). >>> >>> I have no ZipPlugin as library in any of my vms. >>> >>> But there are zips downloaded and unpacked. I start the image the >>> first >>> time loading all the code of my project. Then it is saved, copied to >>> a new >>> name and reopened to load the tests and then it fails. I did try to >>> load >>> the tests in the first run and then it works. >>> >>> Iâm running out of ideas >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max >>> >>> On 9 Jul 2018, at 17:14, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> With the help of Esteban I got one step further. If I do >>> >>> MCWorkingCopy >>> managersForClass: ZnFileSystemUtils >>> do: [ :each | each ancestry initialize ] >>> >>> before loading my project it updates Zinc-FileSystem as well. Sadly >>> it >>> still does not work for me because I get >>> >>> Loading baseline of BaselineOfMobilityMap... >>> ...RETRY->BaselineOfParasol >>> ...RETRY->BaselineOfParasol[31mError: can't find EOCD position >>> >>> and I donât know why. zip file is downloaded from github and >>> present but >>> it fails and only on my jenkins on linux. On my Mac this works. >>> >>> I try a few things but then Iâm back on pharo6.1 for the time >>> being :( >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:28 schrieb Norbert Hartl norbert(a)hartl.name: >>> >>> Really? I thought the same but then I didnât believe it works like >>> that. >>> >>> Anyway this would be very easy to solve. We just need to ask Sven if >>> he is >>> fine with doing an empty .16 version for Zinc-FileSystem and does an >>> in-place version reset of 2.9.2 or a new 2.9.3. Iâm not fully >>> convinced >>> that will solve it but the cost wonât be very high. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:22 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot >>> cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com: >>> >>> Need to investigate more. There are two .15 versions but there is 1 >>> year >>> in between (if you didnât notice TheIntegratior.15 is from 2017). >>> Just want >>> to have more context information because I can only see that this is >>> strange but lacking insight. >>> >>> Iâm trying to figure out why it does not update Zinc-FileSystem. >>> No matter >>> what I do I cannot get Metacello to load the newer package. That >>> would fix >>> the issue because Iâm loading 2.9.2 which should have >>> Zinc-FileSystem-SVC.15 and not stay on the one included in the >>> image. >>> >>> I think this is important for everyone that has a product based on >>> 6.1 and >>> that want to migrate someday to pharo7. This way it is impossible to >>> do it >>> step by step. >>> >>> If there is a package .15 in the image and a package .15 in the >>> repo, I >>> think Metacello will not update because it rely on the numbers to >>> know when >>> to update. If it find a .15 and currently have a .15 I think >>> Metacello will >>> think they are at the same version. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> https://ferlicot.fr >>> >> >>

July 22, 2018