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Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by dimitris chloupis

ok I understand now thank you all for the clarifications. Very exciting and powerful stuff, the more I learn about pharo and smalltalk the more I love it. ________________________________ From: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 12:15 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text No, just a method added to a class, and categorized with a special name: *NameOfThePackageWhereItBelongs Esteban On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:11 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Oh I see, very clever, are those methods traits ? > > > > >________________________________ > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:48 >Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > >If you have got a package named MyPackage then if some class that is not part of this package has got some methods in categories named like *MyPackage(-Something) (star, package name, optional category) then this methods are bundled together with MyPackage. > > >-- Pavel > > >On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >thanks added to my list of things to study :) >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> >>To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 >> >>Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >> >> >> >>On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? >> >>No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. >> >>> From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >>> >>> If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? >>> >>> By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looksÂ like a big improvement over the classic system browser. >> >>-- >>Sven Van Caekenberghe >>http://stfx.eu >>Smalltalk is the Red Pill >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by Esteban Lorenzano

No, just a method added to a class, and categorized with a special name: *NameOfThePackageWhereItBelongs Esteban On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:11 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Oh I see, very clever, are those methods traits ? > > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:48 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > If you have got a package named MyPackage then if some class that is not part of this package has got some methods in categories named like *MyPackage(-Something) (star, package name, optional category) then this methods are bundled together with MyPackage. > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > thanks added to my list of things to study :) > > From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > > On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? > > No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. > > > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > > > If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. > > > > -- Pavel > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? > > > > By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looks like a big improvement over the classic system browser. > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by dimitris chloupis

Oh I see, very clever, are those methods traits ? ________________________________ From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:48 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text If you have got a package named MyPackage then if some class that is not part of this package has got some methods in categories named like *MyPackage(-Something) (star, package name, optional category) then this methods are bundled together with MyPackage. -- Pavel On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: thanks added to my list of things to study :) > > > > >________________________________ > From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > >To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 > >Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > > >On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? > >No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. > >> From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >> >> If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. >> >> -- Pavel >> >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? >> >> By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looksÂ like a big improvement over the classic system browser. > >-- >Sven Van Caekenberghe >http://stfx.eu >Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Lua scripting with nativeboost?

by Frank Shearar

On 12 December 2012 09:47, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 December 2012 09:31, Peter H. Meadows > <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> I was thinking about making a MUD / MOO type game with pharo as the >> server and scripting language. Any ideas on how this should be done? >> How would you make sure the user scripts are sandboxed? Would you have >> an image running the server and a separate image for each user? >> > i think the easiest solution is to run a separate image. > if you want to run in same image, then you have to modify compiler/environment > for sandboxed code, where nothing can sneak through and access private data. And Dave Lewis wrote some stuff recently to easily spawn images: http://forum.world.st/Course-grained-multiprocessing-with-RemoteTask-td4036… frank > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by Pavel Krivanek

If you have got a package named MyPackage then if some class that is not part of this package has got some methods in categories named like *MyPackage(-Something) (star, package name, optional category) then this methods are bundled together with MyPackage. -- Pavel On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > thanks added to my list of things to study :) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis < > thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 > > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > > On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A > class subclasses package B class ? > > No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. > > > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis < > thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > > > If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B > then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that > are not part of the package A too. > > > > -- Pavel > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis < > thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the > thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are > grey out ? > > > > By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing > to it , it certainly looks like a big improvement over the classic system > browser. > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Lua scripting with nativeboost?

by Igor Stasenko

On 12 December 2012 09:31, Peter H. Meadows <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I was thinking about making a MUD / MOO type game with pharo as the > server and scripting language. Any ideas on how this should be done? > How would you make sure the user scripts are sandboxed? Would you have > an image running the server and a separate image for each user? > i think the easiest solution is to run a separate image. if you want to run in same image, then you have to modify compiler/environment for sandboxed code, where nothing can sneak through and access private data. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by dimitris chloupis

thanks added to my list of things to study :) ________________________________ From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? > > By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looksÂ like a big improvement over the classic system browser. -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. > From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text > > If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? > > By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looks like a big improvement over the classic system browser. -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by dimitris chloupis

Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? ________________________________ From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. -- Pavel On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? > > >By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looksÂ like a big improvement over the classic system browser. >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by dimitris chloupis

Thank you for the welcome , and yes I try to move with small steps and first make sure I know pharo very well before I propose or try to change anything in it. Seem I got tons to learn and thats a very good thing :) Any chance you can reply to my initial question why some classes and methods and protocols are grey out in nautilus ? ________________________________ From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:17 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:03, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? > > By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looksÂ like a big improvement over the classic system browser. I would say: welcome to Pharo Smalltalk ;-) This is why/how we do it: keep on improving the infrastructure in small steps and sometimes replace big parts. The amount of things already done, being done and in the pipeline is really spectacular. And yes, Nautilus is really cool. -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Dec. 12, 2012