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Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by Serge Stinckwich

Phil can you edit the wiki instead of sending the modifications on the mailing-list ;-) On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Le Pharo consortium a Ã©tÃ© rÃ©cemment crÃ©Ã© et regroupent toutes les > entreprises souhaitant soutenir le projet. --> regroupe > Plus d'une vingtaine d'entreprises utilisent aujourd'hui Pharo pour leurs > dÃ©veloppements. Ils utilise notamment : --> utilisent > > > 2013/3/29 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> >> >> On 29 Mar 2013, at 16:30, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. >> > >> > I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the >> > community members who previously felt that they did not have enough >> > influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane >> > Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. >> > >> > I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of >> > having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. >> >> I would say that Pharo is actually run by a bunch of monkeys named Ulysses >> and Penelope, kept in the dungeons of INRIA. >> >> > Regards, >> > >> > >> > 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> >> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page : >> > > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo . >> > > >> > > I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation >> > > with >> > > companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page >> > > on How >> > > to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why >> > > Pharo is >> > > so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the >> > > introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and >> > > what to >> > > focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great' >> > > but not >> > > 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they >> > > have on >> > > Amber web page. >> > > >> > > Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will >> > > translate it in English. >> > > >> > > If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me >> > > so I >> > > can write it down in a section. >> > > >> > > Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too >> > > (Adding to >> > > Pharo by example 1 & 2) >> > >> > Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo >> > should be redesign massively ;-) >> > >> > Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we >> > redesign the page ? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > -- >> > Serge Stinckwich >> > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra >> > Mate Virtual Machine Engineer >> > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq >> >> > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by phil＠highoctane.be

il permet une alternative gratuite aux autres environnements de dÃ©veloppements souvent payant. --> de dÃ©veloppement souvent payants Plusieurs Ã©quipes de recherches utilisent aussi Pharo, notamment Ã Lille et Ã Berne. --> de recherche La Pharo association a Ã©tÃ© rÃ©cemment crÃ©Ã©e et et regroupent touts les indÃ©pendants souhaitant soutenir le projet --> et regroupe 2013/3/29 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Serge Stinckwich < > serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. > >>> > >>> I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the > >>> community members who previously felt that they did not have enough > >>> influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane > >>> Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. > >>> > >>> I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of > >>> having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. > >> > >> Being a benevolent dictators is not a critic in fact. > > > > no, but the way that phrase is written is in fact negative. > > Yes, I guess we can remove : "who previously felt that they did not > have enough influence.". This is completely unrelated. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > >

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le Pharo consortium a Ã©tÃ© rÃ©cemment crÃ©Ã© et regroupent toutes les entreprises souhaitant soutenir le projet. --> regroupe Plus d'une vingtaine d'entreprises utilisent aujourd'hui Pharo pour leurs dÃ©veloppements. Ils utilise notamment : --> utilisent 2013/3/29 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > > On 29 Mar 2013, at 16:30, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. > > > > I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the > community members who previously felt that they did not have enough > influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane > Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. > > > > I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of > having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. > > I would say that Pharo is actually run by a bunch of monkeys named Ulysses > and Penelope, kept in the dungeons of INRIA. > > > Regards, > > > > > > 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page : > > > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo . > > > > > > I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation with > > > companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page > on How > > > to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why > Pharo is > > > so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the > > > introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and > what to > > > focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great' > but not > > > 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they > have on > > > Amber web page. > > > > > > Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will > > > translate it in English. > > > > > > If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me > so I > > > can write it down in a section. > > > > > > Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too > (Adding to > > > Pharo by example 1 & 2) > > > > Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo > > should be redesign massively ;-) > > > > Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we > > redesign the page ? > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > > Mate Virtual Machine Engineer > > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq > > >

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by Serge Stinckwich

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. >>> >>> I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the >>> community members who previously felt that they did not have enough >>> influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane >>> Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. >>> >>> I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of >>> having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. >> >> Being a benevolent dictators is not a critic in fact. > > no, but the way that phrase is written is in fact negative. Yes, I guess we can remove : "who previously felt that they did not have enough influence.". This is completely unrelated. -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 29 Mar 2013, at 16:30, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. > > I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the community members who previously felt that they did not have enough influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. > > I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. I would say that Pharo is actually run by a bunch of monkeys named Ulysses and Penelope, kept in the dungeons of INRIA. > Regards, > > > 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page : > > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo . > > > > I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation with > > companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page on How > > to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why Pharo is > > so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the > > introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and what to > > focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great' but not > > 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they have on > > Amber web page. > > > > Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will > > translate it in English. > > > > If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me so I > > can write it down in a section. > > > > Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too (Adding to > > Pharo by example 1 & 2) > > Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo > should be redesign massively ;-) > > Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we > redesign the page ? > > Regards, > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Mate Virtual Machine Engineer > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] How to open a file with external app

by phil＠highoctane.be

OOTB I mean, from the configuration browser 2013/3/29 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > why? you just need to implement an strategy for that. > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > > Yes, that's frustrating. Example: Help Server using NBShell32 and not > working on OSX... > > > 2013/3/29 jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > >> Yes, >> But I am thinking that using 2 differents things to do the same work is >> not cool. >> >> So, I will use that for now. >> Thank you >> >> Jannik >> >> On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:47 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >> > For OSX, it is just a matter of calling open from the OSProcess as >> > Cami told us in the list already. It works. >> > >> > Phil >> > >> > 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Hi Phil, >> >> >> >> Thank you for the help. >> >> But this line is only available for Windows. >> >> I don't find the same for MacOS and Linux. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jannik >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/3/29 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> >> >>> >> >>> Looks like OSProcess is not your best bet. >> >>> >> >>> Check NBWin32Shell instead (in NativeBoostWin32) >> >>> >> >>> (Smalltalk at: #NBWin32Shell) shellBrowse: 'http://localhost:' >> , >> >>> self >> >>> port asString >> >>> >> >>> Phil >> >>> >> >>> 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >> >>>> Hi again, >> >>>> >> >>>> I took the ConfigurationOfOSProcess in >> >>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository >> >>>> When I load the stable version in Pharo2.0, there is a lot of error >> that >> >>>> things are undeclared in Transcript: >> >>>> >> >>>> === >> >>>> CommandShell>>builtinCommandProxyFor:input:output:error: >> >>>> (ShellBuiltinEvaluator is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>evaluationProxyFor:input:output:error: >> >>>> (ExpressionEvaluator is >> >>>> Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>installCommands: (ShellBuiltin is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>open (CommandShellTranscript is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>openLabel: (CommandShellTranscript is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>pipeline: (ProxyPipeline is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>pipelineCollectionFrom: (ProxyPipeline is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: >> >>>> (InternalPipe is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: >> >>>> (PipeJunction is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: >> >>>> (PipeableOSProcess is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShell>>scheduleToEvaluate: (ScheduledControllers is >> Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor class>>fileNamed:inDirectoryPath: (CrLfFileStream is >> >>>> Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor class>>fileNamed:withLabel: (CrLfFileStream is >> >>>> Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>bogusTruncate: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>fileContentsMenu:shifted: (ParagraphEditor is >> >>>> Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getAnotherFileName: (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getAnotherFileName: (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getFileName: (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getFileName: (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (StandardSystemController is >> Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>put: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>put: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) >> >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>saveAs (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (StandardSystemController is >> >>>> Undeclared) >> >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (ShellWindowView is Undeclared) >> >>>> === >> >>>> >> >>>> Do I have the correct version ? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> Jannik >> >>>> >> >>>> 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you all. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Jannik >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2013/3/28 Holger Hans Peter Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:26:21PM +0100, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >>>>>>> The only solution currently is to use OSProcess and >> >>>>>>> - open under OSX >> >>>>>>> - gnome-open under linux >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Please use xdg-open to work on all free desktop implementations. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ >> >>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> >>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >> >>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>>> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ >> >>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> >>>> Enseignant-chercheur >> >>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ >> >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> >> Enseignant-chercheur >> >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> > >> >> >> > >

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mar 29, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. >> >> I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the >> community members who previously felt that they did not have enough >> influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane >> Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. >> >> I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of >> having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. > > Being a benevolent dictators is not a critic in fact. no, but the way that phrase is written is in fact negative. > > This is just to say that some people have more power than others in > the community. > Python use the same model for software development. > > Regards, > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by Serge Stinckwich

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. > > I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the > community members who previously felt that they did not have enough > influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, StÃ©phane > Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. > > I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of > having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. Being a benevolent dictators is not a critic in fact. This is just to say that some people have more power than others in the community. Python use the same model for software development. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] How to open a file with external app

by Esteban Lorenzano

why? you just need to implement an strategy for that. On Mar 29, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Yes, that's frustrating. Example: Help Server using NBShell32 and not working on OSX... > > > 2013/3/29 jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > Yes, > But I am thinking that using 2 differents things to do the same work is not cool. > > So, I will use that for now. > Thank you > > Jannik > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:47 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > > For OSX, it is just a matter of calling open from the OSProcess as > > Cami told us in the list already. It works. > > > > Phil > > > > 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi Phil, > >> > >> Thank you for the help. > >> But this line is only available for Windows. > >> I don't find the same for MacOS and Linux. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jannik > >> > >> > >> 2013/3/29 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > >>> > >>> Looks like OSProcess is not your best bet. > >>> > >>> Check NBWin32Shell instead (in NativeBoostWin32) > >>> > >>> (Smalltalk at: #NBWin32Shell) shellBrowse: 'http://localhost:', > >>> self > >>> port asString > >>> > >>> Phil > >>> > >>> 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > >>>> Hi again, > >>>> > >>>> I took the ConfigurationOfOSProcess in > >>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository > >>>> When I load the stable version in Pharo2.0, there is a lot of error that > >>>> things are undeclared in Transcript: > >>>> > >>>> === > >>>> CommandShell>>builtinCommandProxyFor:input:output:error: > >>>> (ShellBuiltinEvaluator is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>evaluationProxyFor:input:output:error: > >>>> (ExpressionEvaluator is > >>>> Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>installCommands: (ShellBuiltin is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>open (CommandShellTranscript is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>openLabel: (CommandShellTranscript is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>pipeline: (ProxyPipeline is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>pipelineCollectionFrom: (ProxyPipeline is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: > >>>> (InternalPipe is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: > >>>> (PipeJunction is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>processProxyFor:input:output:error:predecessorProxy: > >>>> (PipeableOSProcess is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShell>>scheduleToEvaluate: (ScheduledControllers is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor class>>fileNamed:inDirectoryPath: (CrLfFileStream is > >>>> Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor class>>fileNamed:withLabel: (CrLfFileStream is > >>>> Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>bogusTruncate: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>fileContentsMenu:shifted: (ParagraphEditor is > >>>> Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getAnotherFileName: (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getAnotherFileName: (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getFileName: (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>getFileName: (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (StandardSystemController is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>mvcWithLabel: (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>put: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>put: (CrLfFileStream is Undeclared) > >>>> CrLfFileEditor>>saveAs (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (StandardSystemController is > >>>> Undeclared) > >>>> CommandShellTranscript>>openLabel: (ShellWindowView is Undeclared) > >>>> === > >>>> > >>>> Do I have the correct version ? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Jannik > >>>> > >>>> 2013/3/29 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you all. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jannik > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2013/3/28 Holger Hans Peter Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:26:21PM +0100, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >>>>>>> The only solution currently is to use OSProcess and > >>>>>>> - open under OSX > >>>>>>> - gnome-open under linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please use xdg-open to work on all free desktop implementations. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ > >>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai > >>>>> Enseignant-chercheur > >>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ > >>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai > >>>> Enseignant-chercheur > >>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ > >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai > >> Enseignant-chercheur > >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu > > > > >

March 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page. I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_Dictator_For_Life> of the community members who previously felt that they did not have enough influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marcus_Denker&action=edit&redlink…> , StÃ©phane Ducasse<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St%C3%A9phane_Ducasse&action=edit…>, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'. I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of having a bunch of critics against some people of the community. Regards, 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page : > > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo . > > > > I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation with > > companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page on > How > > to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why Pharo > is > > so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the > > introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and > what to > > focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great' but > not > > 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they have > on > > Amber web page. > > > > Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will > > translate it in English. > > > > If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me so > I > > can write it down in a section. > > > > Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too (Adding > to > > Pharo by example 1 & 2) > > Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo > should be redesign massively ;-) > > Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we > redesign the page ? > > Regards, > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Mate Virtual Machine Engineer BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 *Villeneuve d'Ascq*

March 29, 2013