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[Pharo-project] new Pharo 2.0 version

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I made some changes in the Pharo 2.0 release (can be called 2.0.1, but well... it is 2.0.596. in fact :) 1) Nautilus keybindings settings are now the old ones by default (asked by Stef) 2) Backported the fix that prevents that load FFI crashes image (thanks to Guille) 3) Backported the platform versions (thanks to... well, myself :) Now, there is a problem with the page because the big "Download" button still points to the portable version, but well... nothing is perfect in life :) enjoy, Esteban

April 2, 2013

[Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

by Damien Cassou

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15762706/how-to-define-a-configurationof… -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 2, 2013

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20596

by Esteban Lorenzano

20596 ----- Prepared for updated release (yep, Stef asked for some special changes... and since he is the boss... :) Esteban

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Conference Videos

by dimitris chloupis

"Well, we're taping, so they should appear online somewhere :)" Ah thats great news indeed, thank you, cant wait to watch them :)

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharon Conference Videos

by Max Leske

Well, we're taping, so they should appear online somewhere :) On 02.04.2013, at 12:08, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Is there any plan to upload videos of the pharo conference ? would love to watch them.

April 2, 2013

[Pharo-project] Pharon Conference Videos

by dimitris chloupis

Is there any plan to upload videos of the pharo conference ? would love to watch them.

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Camillo Bruni

Yes I just haven't fully announced it yet ;) since I only programmed them this saturday and was waiting for the pharo conf ;) But I will deprecate it with a warning message in it tomorrow or so. And then people should rename their scripts. On 2013-04-02, at 11:58, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Well, I would say a > > mv vm-ui.sh pharo-ui > > would do a good job to get out of deprecation. Honestly if the scripts are deprecated just take them out of the download. I don't know why to leave them there because it is confusing. > > Norbert > > Am 02.04.2013 um 11:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi Norbert, >> >> the vm-ui.sh script is deprecated (yep, Camillo already deprecated something, even if it is brand new). >> >> now the valid scripts are >> >> "pharo" and "pharo-ui" >> >> :) >> >> Esteban >> >> On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> Another attempt. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> <vm-ui.sh> >>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>> >>>> Ah, rats, didn't think it through. It only works for commandline switches that do not have an argument itself. Sad and sorry! >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:38 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>>> >>>>> Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that >>>>> >>>>> curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash >>>>> >>>>> is shorter than >>>>> >>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>> >>>>> If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? >>>>> >>>>> If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script >>>>> >>>>> # parse vm options and image >>>>> for arg in "$@" >>>>> do >>>>> if [[ $arg == -* ]]; >>>>> then >>>>> VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" >>>>> shift >>>>> else >>>>> break >>>>> fi >>>>> done >>>>> IMAGE=$1 >>>>> shift >>>>> # if no image has been provided use the installed one >>>>> if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; >>>>> then >>>>> IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image >>>>> fi >>>>> >>>>> which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. >>>>> >>>>> Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. >>>>> >>>>> thanks for the effort, >>>>> >>>>> Norbert >>>>> >>>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>>> >>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> now you can use: >>>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>>>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>>>>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-02, at 11:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Norbert, > > the vm-ui.sh script is deprecated (yep, Camillo already deprecated something, even if it is brand new). > > now the valid scripts are > > "pharo" and "pharo-ui" with the same contents ;) > Esteban > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> Another attempt. >> >> Norbert >> >> >> <vm-ui.sh> >> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> >>> Ah, rats, didn't think it through. It only works for commandline switches that do not have an argument itself. Sad and sorry! >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:38 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>> >>>> Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that >>>> >>>> curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash >>>> >>>> is shorter than >>>> >>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>> >>>> If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? >>>> >>>> If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script >>>> >>>> # parse vm options and image >>>> for arg in "$@" >>>> do >>>> if [[ $arg == -* ]]; >>>> then >>>> VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" >>>> shift >>>> else >>>> break >>>> fi >>>> done >>>> IMAGE=$1 >>>> shift >>>> # if no image has been provided use the installed one >>>> if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; >>>> then >>>> IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image >>>> fi >>>> >>>> which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. >>>> >>>> Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. >>>> >>>> thanks for the effort, >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>> >>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >>>>> >>>>> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >>>>> >>>>> now you can use: >>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>>>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Norbert Hartl

Well, I would say a mv vm-ui.sh pharo-ui would do a good job to get out of deprecation. Honestly if the scripts are deprecated just take them out of the download. I don't know why to leave them there because it is confusing. Norbert Am 02.04.2013 um 11:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Norbert, > > the vm-ui.sh script is deprecated (yep, Camillo already deprecated something, even if it is brand new). > > now the valid scripts are > > "pharo" and "pharo-ui" > > :) > > Esteban > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> Another attempt. >> >> Norbert >> >> >> <vm-ui.sh> >> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> >>> Ah, rats, didn't think it through. It only works for commandline switches that do not have an argument itself. Sad and sorry! >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:38 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>> >>>> Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that >>>> >>>> curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash >>>> >>>> is shorter than >>>> >>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>> >>>> If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? >>>> >>>> If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script >>>> >>>> # parse vm options and image >>>> for arg in "$@" >>>> do >>>> if [[ $arg == -* ]]; >>>> then >>>> VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" >>>> shift >>>> else >>>> break >>>> fi >>>> done >>>> IMAGE=$1 >>>> shift >>>> # if no image has been provided use the installed one >>>> if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; >>>> then >>>> IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image >>>> fi >>>> >>>> which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. >>>> >>>> Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. >>>> >>>> thanks for the effort, >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>> >>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >>>>> >>>>> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >>>>> >>>>> now you can use: >>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>>>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-02, at 10:38, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that > > curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash > > is shorter than > > wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash yes definitely! though it seems that I cannot properly install curl under mingw :P otherwise it is definitely nicer ;) > If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? yes > If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script humm the thing is, that I usually rename the image on jenkins. So for my common use-case it is somehow not needed. But I see that it would convey more to the all-in-one zeroconf idea ;) > # parse vm options and image > for arg in "$@" > do > if [[ $arg == -* ]]; > then > VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" > shift > else > break > fi > done > IMAGE=$1 > shift > # if no image has been provided use the installed one > if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; > then > IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image > fi > > which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. > > Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. I am bit tired so might make mistakes ;). Currently I generate the scripts from the files present here: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/ZeroConf There are nice smalltalk classes that generate all the scripts and hence duplication is not really an issue :). I like your idea, though I have to think about the side-effects a bit. Maybe later today ;), but I'll look into it > thanks for the effort, > > Norbert > > <vm-ui.sh> > > Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > >> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >> >> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >> >> now you can use: >> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >> >> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>> >>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>> >>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>> >>> >> >> >

April 2, 2013