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Re: [Pharo-project] UPDATE NOTICE: new zeroconf scripts

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-08, at 11:16, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> there was a problem just putting it next to the image. > > > the space it takes on the hard disks? that's a serious problem! :D

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] State of PharoConf videos

by Camillo Bruni

Really, really nice! On 2013-04-08, at 15:18, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Stephan! > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm very happy to see that the initiative to make video recordings >> of the PharoConf and MooseDay has resulted in so many >> screencasts already published. Great work! >> >> And now the first feedback: >> - Format conversion: 62 of 72 GB done, processing the whole weekend. >> - First 13 minute part currently encoding and uploading. >> Still about an hour and a half to go. >> - I would like to receive the presentation files to combine them >> with video. >> - Some of the material is difficult to use. Zoomed out too much >> it is difficult to follow the speaker and the beamer screen is not >> readable. Combining a screencast with the video only makes >> sense when zoomed in (talking head size). >> >> Why does this take so long? >> - the video is in a format that I cannot work with directly, so needs >> transcoding. >> I have been using VideoMonkey for this, which is based on ffmpeg. I have >> the impression that this ffmpeg is not using the GPU, but only the i5. >> I'm open for suggestions on better software for this in the future, as >> it takes the >> whole weekend. >> - I switched from iMovie to Final Cut Pro X. That allows non-linear >> editing, >> so I don't have to wait for rendering to cut the movies. It remains >> responsive >> even during the format conversion. >> - video is much larger than the equivalent length of screencast. That >> creates >> a upload bottleneck. 13 minutes of HD video is 733 MB. My home upload is >> 1Mbps (2 hours), so for uploading more material I'll ask someone at our >> local university. >> - I'm spending a limited amount of time during the weekend (and none next >> week). >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >>

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hot keys in Pharo

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-08, at 14:52, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM, roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch > <roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: >> IMHO it would be cool to collect all such hot keys in a webpage or Wiki since those are really a killer features for developers. > > > I don't agree because Wiki pages are never maintained. The best is to > generate the bindings descriptions automatically which we do: there is a menu on the top right of Nautilus:

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] State of PharoConf videos

by Martin Dias

Thanks Stephan! On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very happy to see that the initiative to make video recordings > of the PharoConf and MooseDay has resulted in so many > screencasts already published. Great work! > > And now the first feedback: > - Format conversion: 62 of 72 GB done, processing the whole weekend. > - First 13 minute part currently encoding and uploading. > Still about an hour and a half to go. > - I would like to receive the presentation files to combine them > with video. > - Some of the material is difficult to use. Zoomed out too much > it is difficult to follow the speaker and the beamer screen is not > readable. Combining a screencast with the video only makes > sense when zoomed in (talking head size). > > Why does this take so long? > - the video is in a format that I cannot work with directly, so needs > transcoding. > I have been using VideoMonkey for this, which is based on ffmpeg. I have > the impression that this ffmpeg is not using the GPU, but only the i5. > I'm open for suggestions on better software for this in the future, as > it takes the > whole weekend. > - I switched from iMovie to Final Cut Pro X. That allows non-linear > editing, > so I don't have to wait for rendering to cut the movies. It remains > responsive > even during the format conversion. > - video is much larger than the equivalent length of screencast. That > creates > a upload bottleneck. 13 minutes of HD video is 733 MB. My home upload is > 1Mbps (2 hours), so for uploading more material I'll ask someone at our > local university. > - I'm spending a limited amount of time during the weekend (and none next > week). > > Stephan > > > >

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We're looking into building the PharoVM on our own build server for our systems (Debian). Did you just build the VM once on your machine or do you have a more general approach for building it? > Ideally we'd like jenkins to do something like > 1) pull sources > 2) run script I wrote bash scripts that you can find at https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm-ubuntu. Please improve them if you can because I'm just a beginner. I would also like to use Jenkins but I don't think it will work because PPA want packages to be signed with GPG. Please keep me informed. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Global Apology

by Igor Stasenko

<arrogant tone> Apologies accepted </arrogant tone> Real tone: First, i must say Camillo has reasons to be frustrated. And my reaction was not the best one as well. So, please take my apologies, list and especially Camillo. I must to say that Camillo is a great guy, and it is pure luck that i am working together with such a person. And i am not exaggerating by a tiny bit: I spent years working in different companies, or working alone and it is very frustrating when you have nobody who could understand you or can share ideas with and discuss them. Nobody who can help you, or point on your mistakes. Being alone is a curse. It is great pleasure when you can explain things with just a few words, when our vision is aligned and when you don't need to educate person, before you can even try to present new ideas to him. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

by Goubier Thierry

Le 08/04/2013 14:13, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : > > Am 08.04.2013 um 13:05 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: >>> sudo apt-get download pharo-vm >>> sudo dpkg -i --ignore-depends openssl:i386 pharo-* >> >> >> thank you. I wrote that on the PPA web page >> > I don't even think that it is work-around. It would be a work-around if you don't need any ssl support. Treating it like this you should face complaints of users why Zinc SSL isn't working. I'm not sure if the automatic installation of a broken package is a benefit for anyone. Let's just fix the multiarch build. What's happening is that the needed base support for pharo under 64bits probably install an ssl:i386 library anyway; and that the pharo ssl plugin links to that library instead of openssl:i386. But yes, it would be better to fix the build, maybe by just adding a dependency on libssl or openssl. Cordialement, Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hot keys in Pharo

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM, roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch <roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: > IMHO it would be cool to collect all such hot keys in a webpage or Wiki since those are really a killer features for developers. I don't agree because Wiki pages are never maintained. The best is to generate the bindings descriptions automatically -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hot keys in Pharo

by Max Leske

On 08.04.2013, at 14:42, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am currently (like right now) fixing this, extracting them to have platform specific shortcuts (to go to the end of text, forwardDelete, etc). > By doing that, I am discovering *a lot* of weird shortcuts (like changeLfToCr:, doAgainMany: etc) :) You should document them for TheDailyWTF :) > > Ben > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch" <roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When I attended PharoConf last week, I've seen that there are many keyboard shortcuts embedded in Pharo that I wasn't aware of (e.g., creating a default initialize message). IMHO it would be cool to collect all such hot keys in a webpage or Wiki since those are really a killer features for developers. >> >> Cheers, >> Roby >

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hot keys in Pharo

by Benjamin

I am currently (like right now) fixing this, extracting them to have platform specific shortcuts (to go to the end of text, forwardDelete, etc). By doing that, I am discovering *a lot* of weird shortcuts (like changeLfToCr:, doAgainMany: etc) :) Ben On Apr 8, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch" <roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > When I attended PharoConf last week, I've seen that there are many keyboard shortcuts embedded in Pharo that I wasn't aware of (e.g., creating a default initialize message). IMHO it would be cool to collect all such hot keys in a webpage or Wiki since those are really a killer features for developers. > > Cheers, > Roby

April 8, 2013