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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Dennis Schetinin

Thanks -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2013/4/10 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thanks... but another question then: how can I get access to Pharo at >> fogbugz? I don't see any "register" links/buttons there. >> > > http://bugs.pharo.org/ (top of the page) > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing > enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 10 Apr 2013, at 10:58, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >> formatting especially in emitting the current timestamp and the class>>method automatically >> >> I feel Toothpick can be extended to the above and with clear separation of lean classes it can serve the enterprise class of apps well. >> >> While SimpleLog, seems equally good, but I have not used, seems to offer one more error level and similar appenders capability. >> >> **************************** >> One observation I have is for all logger libraries to adopt same api for logging error viz: >> >> logger level: #warn message: 'This warning' . ( category is #default and most often usable) >> logger category:#perf level: #warn message: 'Below threshold of 100 trans per second' . >> >> convenience messages thereafter also be the same api viz: >> logger info: 'This info' . logger warn: 'This warning' . logger error: 'this exception' et als.. >> >> It will make it easier to switch logging framework if so required in future. > > good idea. Yes, I think we should first focus on the API for the code doing the logging. It would be very cool to have one API and possibly different logging destination, with different capabilities. I already mentioned the block trick with the optional error handling. Another point is, should we not allow for arbitrary objects to be logged, so that afterwards there is an option to inspect them (this might be dangerous wrt destructive modifications and GC) - does Gemstone not have an 'Object Log' ? Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

by S Krish

I will work on these and start some commits this weekend. I hate to read transcript for compiler warnings. I want a real object that > I can manipulate. > > logger as an instance of class Logger has manipulation capability. Anything else we need to add to it..?

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks... but another question then: how can I get access to Pharo at fogbugz? I don't see any "register" links/buttons there. > There is a register link on top of http://bugs.pharo.org and yes, we should use links to there instead of fugbugz itself, but this is not yet ready. Marcus

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

by stephane ducasse

> formatting especially in emitting the current timestamp and the class>>method automatically > > I feel Toothpick can be extended to the above and with clear separation of lean classes it can serve the enterprise class of apps well. > > While SimpleLog, seems equally good, but I have not used, seems to offer one more error level and similar appenders capability. > > **************************** > One observation I have is for all logger libraries to adopt same api for logging error viz: > > logger level: #warn message: 'This warning' . ( category is #default and most often usable) > logger category:#perf level: #warn message: 'Below threshold of 100 trans per second' . > > convenience messages thereafter also be the same api viz: > logger info: 'This info' . logger warn: 'This warning' . logger error: 'this exception' et als.. > > It will make it easier to switch logging framework if so required in future. good idea.

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks... but another question then: how can I get access to Pharo at > fogbugz? I don't see any "register" links/buttons there. > http://bugs.pharo.org/ (top of the page) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

by stephane ducasse

Yes probably now I want something to log inside the system. I hate transcript plain stupid string. I hate to read transcript for compiler warnings. I want a real object that I can manipulate. Stef On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:42 AM, GÃ¶ran Krampe <goran(a)krampe.se> wrote: > On 04/10/2013 03:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> shouldn't be better to use the newer paulepulpe or something like that >> done by Santiago BragaÃ±olo? I guess he did not write it from scratch >> just because.... > > Personally I found Toothpick complicated back when I created SimpleLog. > > I also felt that playing nice with the outside world was important when it comes to logging so SimpleLog reuses the syslog levels standard and has a UDP emitter into syslog as an option. > > And a friend added a Morphic UI with filtering etc, very nice during development! > > regards, GÃ¶ran >

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Dennis Schetinin

Thanks... but another question then: how can I get access to Pharo at fogbugz? I don't see any "register" links/buttons there. -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2013/4/10 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Marcus, > > > > what does it mean to become/be an academic partner? > > > There is an entry on the issue tracker already: > > 10251 Consortium: add a discription about Academic Partners > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10251 > > We will add that and send a callâ¦ > > Marcus >

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Marcus, > > what does it mean to become/be an academic partner? > There is an entry on the issue tracker already: 10251 Consortium: add a discription about Academic Partners https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10251 We will add that and send a callâ¦ Marcus

April 10, 2013

[Pharo-project] Videos delayed

by Stephan Eggermont

Katja noticed that the rendering machine was running out of disk space. She might be able to free some up this afternoon Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

April 10, 2013