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Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

by Tristan Bourgois

2013/4/10 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > > > On 10 April 2013 09:14, Tristan Bourgois <tristan.bourgois(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/4/9 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Yes, this is a known bug actually, which i demonstrated to audience >>> during >>> tutorial presentation.. >>> i/cairo miss the correct font matrix setup.. and i need to see what's >>> there. >>> Cairo caching the glyphs in a strange way (so if you never drawn >>> anything with given font before and your first drawing will use some >>> rotation >>> then everything will be rendered correctly, but if you already drawn >>> anything >>> it will render them like you shown).. >>> I'm going to fix that issue when i come back from Lviv. >>> >>> >> Super :) >> >> Did you also see the cairo_text_path() method? It's very interesting if >> you want to stroke the letter! >> >>> > Yes but this is more for fancy artistic text. For rendering large amounts > of text (like big lists/source code) you don't want to do that, > because it will be too slow. > > Thanks for the advice I will share it to my team because they want performance and use text_path instead of show_text. -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] A demo video

by Tristan Bourgois

Super video! That's exactly what I try to explain to non-smalltalker programmer why using smalltlalk (and especially Pharo) is very cool! :) Tristan 2013/4/11 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Excellent video! > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I made a small video to show how work the âlife environmentâ we pharoers > (and every smalltalker) always talk. That adictive little thing I like to > call: âImmediate feedback experienceâ. > > You can see the video here (in the same old ugly english you all know me > :) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hu_C0ldSqrs > > > > Cheers, > > Esteban > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Please comment on a bug fix for Nautilus

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-10, at 21:42, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 10 April 2013 13:21, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> We need you to give your opinion on a bug fix for Nautilus. No need to load >>> any code in your image, just look at the screenshots and comments at: >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10139 >>> >>> and give us your opinion >> // >> >> Often, especially with Morphs i need to go to superclass >> and i think it would be nicer to keep it one-line above in the list >> close to selected class i am working with. >> If it is about extensions or extended classes which not belongs to >> your package they can be in any order. >> >> But if you really want to separate them (gray / black) then i would >> even go further and put them into separate list widget, so there will >> be no confusion that those lists are independent (and no need to >> invent some strange ordering scheme) > > No > We want to see packages extensions with the classes defined in the package. > No separated list! I DO want to have them clearly separated => add an option! once the algorithm works for mixed packages that should be no problem to make it work both ways.

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by stephane ducasse

did you use platform logic? Because this may be the place to add this logic which is platform dependent. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > is this image-side patch or vm-side? or both? > > image-side only, a combination of native boost and reading of the standard ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by stephane ducasse

May be getSpyOf: should return a null object so that you do not have to type these ifNil: [ ] Setf On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Just wanted to share this with you: > https://vimeo.com/63319467 > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > is this image-side patch or vm-side? or both? image-side only, a combination of native boost and reading of the standard ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by stephane ducasse

Thanks this is cool. Now when you do an announce: just add one sentence to present what we will see. Do not let the user have to guess and click to get it. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Just wanted to share this with you: > https://vimeo.com/63319467 > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by stephane ducasse

gisela about command you should sit with ben to also see what we do we do in general. Do we provide a command hierarchy that can be shared among tools (message listâ¦) Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > > >I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors > There aren't suggestion for a class currently implemented so it won't offer you nothing yet. But something we can do it's to figure it out witch options would be nice to have, I was thinking in: > - Class references > - Hierarchy > - Browse the class > So tell me your ideas and I will try to make a command for that and then add it as a suggestion, if you browse #specialCommands (the message I'm using to find the available actions for the selected code) you will see that the only real implementors are the RBVariableNode and RBMessageNode. I think that the actions you want are for RBClassReference (I will check it). But tell me what would you expect to see as a quick action over a class reference :) > > > About the suggestion... the "smart ones" are at the end of the menu, the other ones are the default, it will be very cool to replace the hole menu (it's something that I have in my todolist) but for a 0 prototype I've just focused on adding more options. > In fact I surely will be commiting some changes for display just a suggestions menu using a short cut (alt+t) tomorrow. > > >Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. > > This is just the default behavior for implementors, since I'm using the same action, I will do some performace test in that and will check if I can add it as a task for my todo. Maybe searching for implementors isn't so fast and I wouldn't like to keep waiting a lot of time just to display a menu because maybe you don't even want to search implementors. > But it's a good point for navigation improvements that I also want to make :) > > Thanks for the review and let me know about witch suggestions would you like to have depending what you have selected, I will implement as many as possible and try to finish with an easy way to add more options. > > > > > 2013/4/10 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Hi Gisela, > > Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. > > Consider the following screenshot: > <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> > > I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors > > Another screenshot: > <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> > > I have selected the method startingPointOf: > > I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). >> >> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse implementors: >> <Implementors.png> >> >> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: >> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> >> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) >> >> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. >> >> >> >> >> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me some feedback... >> >> Gofer it >> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' >> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; >> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; >> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; >> load. >> >> :) >> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? > > Not easy to explain. I had the following scenario in mind: > > 1 - In nautilus, I select startingPointOf: in the code pane > 2 - I right click and I see the menu Implementors > 3 - Moving the mouse over this submenu gives me a submenu with all the implementors of the selector. > > A window less compared with what we have right now. Ah . For now we should reduce the number of items in the menu and make sure that everything works and is integrated into pharo. Then the extras :) And it will not be difficult to do. Now we should pay attention that you can get 50 or more implementor/senders. Stef > > Alexandre > > > >> >> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gisela, >>> >>> Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. >>> >>> Consider the following screenshot: >>> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> >>> >>> I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors >>> >>> Another screenshot: >>> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> >>> >>> I have selected the method startingPointOf: >>> >>> I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). >>>> >>>> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse implementors: >>>> <Implementors.png> >>>> >>>> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: >>>> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> >>>> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) >>>> >>>> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me some feedback... >>>> >>>> Gofer it >>>> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' >>>> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>>> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>>> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Please comment on a bug fix for Nautilus

by Sean P. DeNigris

n.b. this conversation is half on the issue tracker and half on the mailing list ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Please-comment-on-a-bug-fix-for-Nautilus-tp4680595p46… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 11, 2013