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Re: [Pharo-project] Rubric questions :)

by Igor Stasenko

url is: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~AlainPlantec/Rubric And it is: A tentative to rewrite a new text editor for Pharo On 24 April 2013 17:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi alain > > better talk not privately :) > > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main' > user: '' > password: ''. > > > > Why > RubParagraphDecorator defines > findRegex > ^ next findRegex > > I'm trying to understand the interface of the decorator since all the > decorator should have the same to be interchangeable. > > > > On > self blueTextOnGrayBacgroundNotWrapped > when I get the menu and change the font nothng changes. > > > I get a DNU when I execute > > self withOnlyThePrimarySelection > > When I type the name of a class in RubMethodEditingExample open > I get DNUs. > > more to come -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Smart Suggestion Version 1

by Stephan Eggermont

Norbert wrote: >First grey out things and the expert can switch them off to make disabled entries invisible. That's not what experts do, btw. Expert menu behavior is based on muscle memory. Things always being in the same place is crucial. As well as predictable delays for submenus, consistent width & height of the menus. Options are evil from a usability pov I took a detailed look: Nautilus menu items are not as tall as the other menus? That makes them difficult to use, muscle memory fails here. "Add Matching Packages as Groups and Browse" is definitely too long. Any suggestions for a shorter text? A 2-dimensional menu (circle menu) would work better here, where the number of elements is so high. Currently, the mouse travel distance is too large Camillo wrote: >In the end, for most pro users, and by that I rely on my experience with very complex 3D software, >menus are mostly there to learn the shortcuts. That means they do not have to be super navigable >(e.g. one big list) but logically structured (e.g. submenus). That could be a reversal of cause and effect. I've seen too many complex old systems where the old dos menu structure was simply moved to a context menu. That does not work at all. Stephan

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] configuration speed

by Igor Stasenko

On 24 April 2013 16:50, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I checked the issue under 3.0 with the configuration loading speed. > > > Main Performance Issues: > ------------------------ > Gofer: > package-cache always used by Gofer => big shared package-cache is very slow > RPackageSet: > each method/class change trigger the creation of a new RPackageSet > for EACH Monticello working copy > > What was reported is, that disabling the announcements during configuration loading > decreases load time. This is due to the RPackageSet problem. No announcements, no new > RPackageSets. > > For a typical configuration loading CommandShell and Soup + 5 packages I got 518'124 > new instances of RPackageSet!! > > Solutions > --------- > Gofer: > removing the package-cache from the default repositories seems like a good thing > to me. There are 3 tests failing after that, mostly checking if there is a default > repository or not. > I would add an explicit statement for the package-cache otherwise. > > RPackageSet: > With a basic cache for RPackageSets I cut the load time to a third! > It will need some more love when it comes to changing classes, but for now > I invalidate it each time an RPackage changes. > I got one more: - fix model of RPackage to contain same objects as MC package. As a consequence RPackageSets goes to > dev/null > > issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10393 -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 24, 2013

[Pharo-project] Rubric questions :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi alain better talk not privately :) MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main' user: '' password: ''. Why RubParagraphDecorator defines findRegex ^ next findRegex I'm trying to understand the interface of the decorator since all the decorator should have the same to be interchangeable. On self blueTextOnGrayBacgroundNotWrapped when I get the menu and change the font nothng changes. I get a DNU when I execute self withOnlyThePrimarySelection When I type the name of a class in RubMethodEditingExample open I get DNUs. more to come

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] configuration speed

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I checked the issue under 3.0 with the configuration loading speed. > > > Main Performance Issues: > ------------------------ > Gofer: > package-cache always used by Gofer => big shared package-cache is very slow > RPackageSet: > each method/class change trigger the creation of a new RPackageSet > for EACH Monticello working copy > > What was reported is, that disabling the announcements during configuration loading > decreases load time. This is due to the RPackageSet problem. No announcements, no new > RPackageSets. > > For a typical configuration loading CommandShell and Soup + 5 packages I got 518'124 > new instances of RPackageSet!! Just that :) There is something wrong. > > Solutions > --------- > Gofer: > removing the package-cache from the default repositories seems like a good thing > to me. There are 3 tests failing after that, mostly checking if there is a default > repository or not. > I would add an explicit statement for the package-cache otherwise. > > RPackageSet: > With a basic cache for RPackageSets I cut the load time to a third! > It will need some more love when it comes to changing classes, but for now > I invalidate it each time an RPackage changes. > > > issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10393

April 24, 2013

[Pharo-project] configuration speed

by Camillo Bruni

I checked the issue under 3.0 with the configuration loading speed. Main Performance Issues: ------------------------ Gofer: package-cache always used by Gofer => big shared package-cache is very slow RPackageSet: each method/class change trigger the creation of a new RPackageSet for EACH Monticello working copy What was reported is, that disabling the announcements during configuration loading decreases load time. This is due to the RPackageSet problem. No announcements, no new RPackageSets. For a typical configuration loading CommandShell and Soup + 5 packages I got 518'124 new instances of RPackageSet!! Solutions --------- Gofer: removing the package-cache from the default repositories seems like a good thing to me. There are 3 tests failing after that, mostly checking if there is a default repository or not. I would add an explicit statement for the package-cache otherwise. RPackageSet: With a basic cache for RPackageSets I cut the load time to a third! It will need some more love when it comes to changing classes, but for now I invalidate it each time an RPackage changes. issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10393

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for ESUG 2013 presentations

by stephane ducasse

with the corrected url with corrected uppercased C for conferences :) 21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Annecy, France from 9 to 13 September 2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/ This call includes: Developer Forum Smalltalk Technology Award International Workshop http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Student Volunteer http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers Camp Smalltalk 8 September 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For the past 21 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for interactions and discussions. This year will be held the 9th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects and an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop) You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See below. * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of attendance (170 people at Amsterdam 2008)! * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enrol into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. You will have 30 min for presentations and 45 min for hand-ons tutorial. The list of topics for the normal talks and tutorials includes, but is not limited to the following: * XP practices, Development tools, Experience reports * Model driven development, Web development, Team management * Meta-Modeling, Security, New libraries & frameworks * Educational material, Embedded systems and robotics * SOA and Web services, Interaction with other programming languages Teaching Pearls --------------- New this year!!! We want two news types of sessions in addition to default talk and show us your projects sessions. - Show your business 10 min session (Get prepared!!) - Teaching pearls : we want some session on how to teach some design aspects. We want your tip and tricks to teach Smalltalk or OOP. We expect to have several 10 to 15 min sessions aggregated. Open Forum: starting with Smalltalk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New this year!! The event will be held at IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc - University of Savoie. This is an opportunity for students and local professionals to discover Smalltalk. A room will be freely accessible and we would like to propose some talks and workshop for Smalltalk beginners. The list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: - Why Smalltalk ? - Panorama of Smalltalk solutions - Getting started with Smalltalk - Success stories How to submit? -------------- Submissions due on 15st June 2013 Notification of acceptance will be on done on the fly. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr AND USE THE following header [ESUG 2013 Developers]. Please follow the template below the email will be automatically processed! Subject: [ESUG 2013 Developers] + your name First Name: Last Name: Email where you can always be reached: Title: Type: Tutorial/Talk/Teaching Pearl/OpenForum Abstract: Bio: Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Smalltalk is considered as a design pearl and as a beacon in the realm of programming languages and programming environments. We are proud to invite submissions to the International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies which is held as part of the ESUG 2013 joint event. The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk. We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as - aspect-oriented programming, meta-programming, - frameworks, interaction with other languages, - implementation, - new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, tools, - meta-modeling, design patterns, experience reports Technology Award Competition ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based software are welcome to compete. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ Student Volunteer Program ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the conference running smoothly; in return, they have free accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the conference. More information at http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers We hope to see you there and have fun together.

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Browsing some code and surprise

by stephane ducasse

may be the best is to - stabilize the current functionality and - have a look at rubric alain told me that now syntax highlight was working. Stef On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > #Editor>>select > "If the text selection is visible on the screen, reverse its highlight." > ^'Not doing anything' > "screw this logic > selectionShowing ifFalse: [self reverseSelection]" > > deselect > "If the text selection is visible on the screen, reverse its highlight." > " ***** screw this logic ***** selectionShowing ifTrue: [self reverseSelection] " > >

April 24, 2013

[Pharo-project] [OT] Browsing some code and surprise

by Gisela Decuzzi

#Editor>>select "If the text selection is visible on the screen, reverse its highlight." ^'Not doing anything' "screw this logic selectionShowing ifFalse: [self reverseSelection]" deselect "If the text selection is visible on the screen, reverse its highlight." " ***** screw this logic ***** selectionShowing ifTrue: [self reverseSelection] "

April 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for ESUG 2013 presentations

by Camillo Bruni

maybe this one? http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013 On 2013-04-24, at 15:28, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > http://www.esug.org/wiki/conferences/2013/ looks dead > > > 2013/4/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> Please distribute as widely as possible :) >> >> >> 21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions >> >> Annecy, France >> from 9 to 13 September 2013 >> http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ >> >> This call includes: >> Developer Forum >> Smalltalk Technology Award >> International Workshop >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop >> Student Volunteer >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers >> Camp Smalltalk 8 September 2013 >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For the past 21 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has >> organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on >> cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both >> academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both >> engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers >> using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. >> >> As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk >> event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with >> renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for >> interactions and discussions. This year will be held the >> 9th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be >> awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects >> and an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages >> (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop) >> >> You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: >> >> * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at >> http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ >> * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See below. >> * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of >> attendance (170 people at Amsterdam 2008)! >> * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enrol >> into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. >> >> Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> We are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. You will have >> 30 min for presentations and 45 min for hand-ons tutorial. >> >> The list of topics for the normal talks and tutorials includes, but >> is not limited to the following: >> >> * XP practices, Development tools, Experience reports >> * Model driven development, Web development, Team management >> * Meta-Modeling, Security, New libraries & frameworks >> * Educational material, Embedded systems and robotics >> * SOA and Web services, Interaction with other programming languages >> >> Teaching Pearls >> --------------- >> New this year!!! >> We want two news types of sessions in addition to default talk and >> show us your projects sessions. >> >> - Show your business 10 min session (Get prepared!!) >> - Teaching pearls : we want some session on how to teach some design >> aspects. We want your tip and tricks to teach Smalltalk or OOP. >> >> We expect to have several 10 to 15 min sessions aggregated. >> >> Open Forum: starting with Smalltalk >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> New this year!! >> The event will be held at IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc - University of Savoie. >> This is an opportunity for students and local professionals to >> discover Smalltalk. >> A room will be freely accessible and we would like to propose some >> talks and workshop >> for Smalltalk beginners. >> >> The list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: >> - Why Smalltalk ? >> - Panorama of Smalltalk solutions >> - Getting started with Smalltalk >> - Success stories >> >> >> How to submit? >> -------------- >> >> Submissions due on 15st June 2013 >> Notification of acceptance will be on done on the fly. >> More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 >> >> >> Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last >> minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to >> Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr AND USE THE following header [ESUG 2013 >> Developers]. >> >> Please follow the template below the email will be automatically >> processed! >> >> Subject: [ESUG 2013 Developers] + your name >> First Name: >> Last Name: >> Email where you can always be reached: >> Title: >> Type: Tutorial/Talk/Teaching Pearl/OpenForum >> Abstract: >> Bio: >> >> >> Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically >> >> >> >> International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop >> >> Smalltalk is considered as a design pearl and as a beacon in the >> realm of programming languages and programming environments. We are >> proud to invite submissions to the International Workshop on >> Smalltalk Technologies which is held as part of the ESUG 2013 joint >> event. The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around >> advances or experience in Smalltalk. We welcome contributions on all >> aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related >> topics such as >> >> - aspect-oriented programming, meta-programming, >> - frameworks, interaction with other languages, >> - implementation, >> - new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, tools, >> - meta-modeling, design patterns, experience reports >> >> Technology Award Competition >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, >> respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards >> ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based >> software are welcome to compete. >> More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ >> >> Student Volunteer Program >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered >> being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the >> conference running smoothly; in return, they have free >> accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the >> conference. >> More information at >> http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers >> >> We hope to see you there and have fun together. >>

April 24, 2013