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Re: [Pharo-dev] Text Encoding questions

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 03 Jul 2013, at 09:58, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 03.07.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr>: > >> Hi All, >> >> anybody able to explain why in some cases I get a correct display of non-latin1 characters and in others not ? Like in the joined inspector. >> >> Note that I'm displaying more or less the same WideString (where the Ï letter appears as ? or as Ï). >> > Camillo is right. The ? is the official character to display if a character isn't available in the font. Having encoding issues would display different things. > > Norbert Try the Free type font 'Arial Unicode MS' for example, and you will see almost any Unicode char you can think of. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Text Encoding questions

by Norbert Hartl

Am 03.07.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr>: > Hi All, > > anybody able to explain why in some cases I get a correct display of non-latin1 characters and in others not ? Like in the joined inspector. > > Note that I'm displaying more or less the same WideString (where the Ï letter appears as ? or as Ï). > Camillo is right. The ? is the official character to display if a character isn't available in the font. Having encoding issues would display different things. Norbert

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Text Encoding questions

by Goubier Thierry

The joined inspector... Le 03/07/2013 09:55, Goubier Thierry a Ã©crit : > Hi All, > > anybody able to explain why in some cases I get a correct display of > non-latin1 characters and in others not ? Like in the joined inspector. > > Note that I'm displaying more or less the same WideString (where the Ï > letter appears as ? or as Ï). > > Thanks, > > Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Text Encoding questions

by Camillo Bruni

AFAIK that might depend on the font ;). Do you have the same font for everything? I remember having problems displaying some strange characters in methods, whereas they would show up fine in the inspectors. If you have a reproducible use case can you open a bug report with a nice description? On 2013-07-03, at 09:55, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > Hi All, > > anybody able to explain why in some cases I get a correct display of non-latin1 characters and in others not ? Like in the joined inspector. > > Note that I'm displaying more or less the same WideString (where the Ï letter appears as ? or as Ï). > > Thanks, > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

July 3, 2013

Text Encoding questions

by Goubier Thierry

Hi All, anybody able to explain why in some cases I get a correct display of non-latin1 characters and in others not ? Like in the joined inspector. Note that I'm displaying more or less the same WideString (where the Ï letter appears as ? or as Ï). Thanks, Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We should turn this blog into a chapter and merge it with the current tutorial. Gisela I can do a first cut and flesh a chapter in gutenberg :) Stef On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pablo, a few days ago I wrote about implementing a simple window with spec here: http://pharorwrules.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/a-look-into-spec/ > > > > 2013/7/3 Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com> > Thanks to all! > > I starting learn spec > > > > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Enviados: Martes, 2 de Julio 2013 18:37:57 > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI > > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > hello list. I am thinking develop a business application in pharo. > > Excellent! > > I need information about tools for UI for business applications. for example dolphin has MVP framework for desktop. > > Yes and its MVP framework is cool. > > I prefer browser/desktop enable UI framework. Which are the tools you can recommend? > > You should have a look at Spec - ben I do not remember where is the tutorial. > Benjamin started to rewrite widgets like list. > > Perhaps someone has experience with businnes app. > > Esteban, benjamin. > What I suggest is to really ask for feedback in the mailing-list and to be prepared to help also because we are > changing the widgets and the tools (and the underlying layers but our time is short). > > I made a commercial desktop application using glamour+magritte+home made stuff > > nowadays, you could do more or less the same using spec/glamour+magritte3+keychain... > > it requires some work (mostly on learning any of them), but is perfectly doable :) > > Esteban > > > > > TIA > PD: Sorry for my english > > :) > Frankly this is not important. > > > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > > > >

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI

by Gisela Decuzzi

Hi Pablo, a few days ago I wrote about implementing a simple window with spec here: http://pharorwrules.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/a-look-into-spec/ 2013/7/3 Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com> > Thanks to all! > > I starting learn spec > > > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > ------------------------------ > *De: *"Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > *Para: *"Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Enviados: *Martes, 2 de Julio 2013 18:37:57 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI > > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > > hello list. I am thinking develop a business application in pharo. > > > Excellent! > > I need information about tools for UI for business applications. for > example dolphin has MVP framework for desktop. > > > Yes and its MVP framework is cool. > > I prefer browser/desktop enable UI framework. Which are the tools you can > recommend? > > > You should have a look at Spec - ben I do not remember where is the > tutorial. > Benjamin started to rewrite widgets like list. > > Perhaps someone has experience with businnes app. > > > Esteban, benjamin. > What I suggest is to really ask for feedback in the mailing-list and to be > prepared to help also because we are > changing the widgets and the tools (and the underlying layers but our time > is short). > > > I made a commercial desktop application using glamour+magritte+home made > stuff > > nowadays, you could do more or less the same using > spec/glamour+magritte3+keychain... > > it requires some work (mostly on learning any of them), but is perfectly > doable :) > > Esteban > > > > > TIA > PD: Sorry for my english > > > :) > Frankly this is not important. > > > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > > > >

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. Best, On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Cool! > > Alexandre > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently > joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long > term issues like the positioning of Pharo. > > > > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven > > > > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board > > > > -- > > http://pharo.org > > http://association.pharo.org > > http://consortium.pharo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

Thanks to all! I starting learn spec Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Sofware Solutions IP Soluciones SRL 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com twitter: @pdigonzelli Tel: 0381 4227378 Cel: 0381 155982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Martes, 2 de Julio 2013 18:37:57 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: <blockquote> hello list. I am thinking develop a business application in pharo. Excellent! <blockquote> I need information about tools for UI for business applications. for example dolphin has MVP framework for desktop. </blockquote> Yes and its MVP framework is cool. <blockquote> I prefer browser/desktop enable UI framework. Which are the tools you can recommend? </blockquote> You should have a look at Spec - ben I do not remember where is the tutorial. Benjamin started to rewrite widgets like list. <blockquote> Perhaps someone has experience with businnes app. </blockquote> Esteban, benjamin. What I suggest is to really ask for feedback in the mailing-list and to be prepared to help also because we are changing the widgets and the tools (and the underlying layers but our time is short). </blockquote> I made a commercial desktop application using glamour+magritte+home made stuff nowadays, you could do more or less the same using spec/glamour+magritte3+keychain... it requires some work (mostly on learning any of them), but is perfectly doable :) Esteban <blockquote> <blockquote> TIA PD: Sorry for my english </blockquote> :) Frankly this is not important. <blockquote> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Sofware Solutions IP Soluciones SRL 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com twitter: @pdigonzelli Tel: 0381 4227378 Cel: 0381 155982714 </blockquote> </blockquote>

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Alexandre Bergel

Cool! Alexandre On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long term issues like the positioning of Pharo. > > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven > > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board > > -- > http://pharo.org > http://association.pharo.org > http://consortium.pharo.org > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 2, 2013