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Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by Tudor Girba

And Moose :) Doru On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Great! > Time to simplify Magritte. > > Stephan > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by Martin Dias

> Thanks Martin for polishing everything :) It's ok! It was a lot of fun. Thanks also to Guille Polito, who helped writing tests during GSoC-2012. +1 for the blog post. I don't have too much to say of the plans for the future but I could write about the current state of the project. MartÃn

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI

by Stephan Eggermont

Depending on your actual needs, you might get a much faster start by using Glamour. It allows building an application at a higher abstraction level. Stephan

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by Stephan Eggermont

Great! Time to simplify Magritte. Stephan

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:47 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Wow! >> >> I cannot wait to clunky dictionary-based instance variable extensions with slots. > > Me too :) > Imagine no more MorphExtension :) > Indeed. And all the flags of morphic (sticky, lockedâ¦) would be stored in one SmallInteger. Marcus

July 4, 2013

[update 3.0] #30251

by Marcus Denker

30251 ----- 2302 sorted and sorted: should be moved to TSortable https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2302 (The image will have two dirty packages after this, we will fix that with the next update) Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Collections-Traits-MarcusDenk… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Collections-Sequenceable-Marc… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Collections-Abstract-MarcusDe…

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Wow! > > I cannot wait to clunky dictionary-based instance variable extensions with slots. Me too :) Imagine no more MorphExtension :) Stef

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This is just the start. I should go over it and integrate more based on the previous material and the videos that ben did. Stef On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com> wrote: > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > De: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Enviados: MiÃ©rcoles, 3 de Julio 2013 17:30:24 > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI > > ;) > > Stef > > > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:44 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > We should turn this blog into a chapter and merge it with the current tutorial. > Gisela I can do a first cut and flesh a chapter in gutenberg :) > > Stef > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pablo, a few days ago I wrote about implementing a simple window with spec here: http://pharorwrules.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/a-look-into-spec/ > > > > 2013/7/3 Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com> > Thanks to all! > > I starting learn spec > > > > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Enviados: Martes, 2 de Julio 2013 18:37:57 > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] question about UI > > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > hello list. I am thinking develop a business application in pharo. > > Excellent! > > I need information about tools for UI for business applications. for example dolphin has MVP framework for desktop. > > Yes and its MVP framework is cool. > > I prefer browser/desktop enable UI framework. Which are the tools you can recommend? > > You should have a look at Spec - ben I do not remember where is the tutorial. > Benjamin started to rewrite widgets like list. > > Perhaps someone has experience with businnes app. > > Esteban, benjamin. > What I suggest is to really ask for feedback in the mailing-list and to be prepared to help also because we are > changing the widgets and the tools (and the underlying layers but our time is short). > > I made a commercial desktop application using glamour+magritte+home made stuff > > nowadays, you could do more or less the same using spec/glamour+magritte3+keychain... > > it requires some work (mostly on learning any of them), but is perfectly doable :) > > Esteban > > > > > TIA > PD: Sorry for my english > > :) > Frankly this is not important. > > > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Sofware Solutions > IP Soluciones SRL > > 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A > email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > email: pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > twitter: @pdigonzelli > Tel: 0381 4227378 > Cel: 0381 155982714 > > > > > > > >

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

by Norbert Hartl

Hehe, yes, and finally I can have more than 254 instance variables! Norbert Am 03.07.2013 um 23:38 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Wow! > > I cannot wait to clunky dictionary-based instance variable extensions with slots. > > Doru > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > Today we turned on the SlotClassBuilderâ¦ this means actually quite a huge change, as it puts into place > lots of things that we can build on later. > > What it means for now > > -> A new, much easier to understand ClassBuilder > -> meta Objects. Layouts + Slots > > For example, there is now for every instance variable a meta object that describes it > It will be very interesting to see what we can do with that! > > Thanks to Toon + Camillo for the original implementation, and Martin Dias with Camillo > for the work to get in really into 3.0. > > Marcus > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Possible PharoVM bug (wrong object on stack top)

by Max Leske

I've opened a new issue for this bug: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11130 It has a couple of methods attached (together with their byte codes) that exhibited the problem. Cheers, Max On 27.06.2013, at 20:44, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What i find fun with this bug, that it is one that is just annoying > (you just get a DNU, then you restart and it works). > Comparing to hard VM crash we experienced before... :) > > On 27 June 2013 20:23, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >> I do have that issue often when loading my devstack configuration on Pharo >> 2.0 (as in http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOWebStack) >> >> Doing everything again fixes the problem but fingers crossed are required. >> >> It is a really annoying bug indeed. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> --- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 >> Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu >> Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback >> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium >> >> Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast >> http://spamcast.libsyn.com >> Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value >> Added Reseller >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 27 June 2013 14:13, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I've been seeing a particular bug that I can only see when using the >>>> PharoVM and I was wondering if anybody else has been having the same issue. >>>> >>>> Under certain condition, a debugger will open displaying "SmallInteger >>>> does not understand <some message>". The stack top contains an integer >>>> (something of the form 138402, not sure how many digits), which explains the >>>> message. However, the situation actually looks like this: >>>> >>>> htmil anchor >>>> id: 'foo'; >>>> â¦ >>>> >>>> In this example, the error would be "SmallInteger does not understand >>>> #id:". So the stack top contains an integer instead of the receiver. >>>> Restarting the execution of the method and proceeding fixes the problem. >>>> I think I've seen that (using seaside), a new session will trigger the bug >>>> again. >>>> >>>> Apart from Seaside, I've also seen the same problem when loading Roberto >>>> Minelli's DevFlow into a Pharo 2.0 image. The debugger will open on a >>>> Metacello method. >>>> >>>> VM: latest PharoVM >>>> image: latest 2.0 >>>> try this config: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~RobertoMinelli/DevFlow with >>>> "ConfigurationOfDevFlow loadDevelopment" >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anybody else encountered this? >>>> >>> yes, couple months ago we had this issue. >>> It looks like it doesn't likes some bytecode sequence (which causing >>> this).. >>> and this sequence is not appears that often. >>> >>> If i remember Esteban said that changing compiler optimizations flags >>> fixed it.. >>> but perhaps not on platform , you running on? >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Max >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

July 4, 2013