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Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkHub and Watch Project - espeically 'recently watched events'

by Serge Stinckwich

I have the same problem on "Recent watched events" list. Regards, On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Chris Cunningham <cunningham.cb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. so, I have about 5 projects that I'm 'watching' in SmalltalkHub. On > the home page (after I'm logged in), 1/2 of that page is taken up with the > 'Recent watched events' list, which are a series of commit messages from one > of my watched projects that were generated back in February of this year. > More importantly, none of the recent activities for the projects show up at > all in that list. > > Is this functionality turned on, or is it in a beta (mostly not working) > state? I think I'd like it if it did show the most recent commits to the > watched projects - that would be neat. > > So, then I logged out (thinking maybe it would refresh when I logged back > in), but now I seem to be unable to log in via the web browser. I'm using > Chrome - if I log in with correct user/password, it goes back to the 'not > logged in' page. If I use the wrong password, I get told the user/password > is wrong. Very odd. > > -Chris -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

July 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkHub and Watch Project - espeically 'recently watched events'

by Benjamin

Nicolas is on vacations, so you may not have an answer soon :S Ben On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Chris Cunningham <cunningham.cb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. so, I have about 5 projects that I'm 'watching' in SmalltalkHub. On the home page (after I'm logged in), 1/2 of that page is taken up with the 'Recent watched events' list, which are a series of commit messages from one of my watched projects that were generated back in February of this year. More importantly, none of the recent activities for the projects show up at all in that list. > > Is this functionality turned on, or is it in a beta (mostly not working) state? I think I'd like it if it did show the most recent commits to the watched projects - that would be neat. > > So, then I logged out (thinking maybe it would refresh when I logged back in), but now I seem to be unable to log in via the web browser. I'm using Chrome - if I log in with correct user/password, it goes back to the 'not logged in' page. If I use the wrong password, I get told the user/password is wrong. Very odd. > > -Chris

July 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] thisContext and block

by Eliot Miranda

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:02 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > thanks! > It makes a lot of sense. > I will play with another example because I want to really understand the > outerContext of closure vs the home context. > The outerContext is a link in the static chain. Each block is created inside some context. This is the block's outerContext. If the block is not nested then the outerCOntext will also be the home context But if the block is nested inside another block activation, then the outerContext refers to that block activation, and the block activation's block's outerContext is the home context. So there are as many outerContext steps as there are nesting levels. | homeContext b1 | homeContext := thisContext. b1 := [| b2 | self assert: thisContext closure == b1. self assert: b1 outerContext == homeContext. b2 := [self assert: thisContext closure == b2. self assert: b2 outerContext closure outerContext == homeContext]. b2 value]. b1 value Ignore the "bN appears to be undefined at this point" and evaluate the above. No assert fails. Draw a picture. > Stef > > On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:58 AM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This is because of compilation optimization. > > 2013/7/22 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> Hi >> >> when I execute the following >> >> first >> "Bexp new first" >> | temp | >> temp := 2. >> [ temp. >> thisContext inspect.] value. >> ^ temp >> >> tmp in the inspector is nil and does not hold 2 and I was wondering why. >> I thought that thisContext was returning the blockContext >> In the outercontext of thisContext blockClosure, tmp is also nil. >> >> > This is because here 'temp.' is evaluated for effect (the value is not > stored anywhere) and it has no side effect (reading a variable cannot lead > to a modification of state of another object). So the compiler removes it. > As it is removed, it is the same as if it was not in the block. So the > block cannot access temp. Now write 'temp:= #foo' or 'temp foo' you will > get it. > > >> first >> "Bexp new first" >> | temp | >> temp := 2. >> [ temp. >> temp traceCr. >> thisContext inspect.] value. >> ^ temp >> >> output 2 on the transcript. >> >> In this case 'temp.' is still removed, but the value of temp still need > to be copied in the block for ' temp traceCr.'.'temp traceCr' is also > evaluated for effect, but has the side effect to output the transcript, so > the compiler cannot remove it. > > Basically the is very few things that the compiler removes, and one of > them is variable read for effect, because you are sure it cannot lead to > any issue. > > >> Stef >> >> > > -- best, Eliot

July 25, 2013

smalltalkHub and Watch Project - espeically 'recently watched events'

by Chris Cunningham

Hi. so, I have about 5 projects that I'm 'watching' in SmalltalkHub. On the home page (after I'm logged in), 1/2 of that page is taken up with the 'Recent watched events' list, which are a series of commit messages from one of my watched projects that were generated back in February of this year. More importantly, none of the recent activities for the projects show up at all in that list. Is this functionality turned on, or is it in a beta (mostly not working) state? I think I'd like it if it did show the most recent commits to the watched projects - that would be neat. So, then I logged out (thinking maybe it would refresh when I logged back in), but now I seem to be unable to log in via the web browser. I'm using Chrome - if I log in with correct user/password, it goes back to the 'not logged in' page. If I use the wrong password, I get told the user/password is wrong. Very odd. -Chris

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello

by Dale K. Henrichs

Doru, Are you going to be at ESUG this year? I think there are some features of the Metacello Preview that can be of a great help to your Moose development and I think you and I need to spend time discussing the ins and outs in detail ... I have also done a fair amount or work writing tools for tODE that manipulate sets of configurations using the MetacelloToolBox (Metacello Preview version), so perhaps your goal of "automatic transitive versioning of all nested configurations" is not as far away as you think. And again, I think some deep discussions at a whiteboard and some pair programming is probably the most efficient... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> | To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> | Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:24:20 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello | | Hi, | | On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> | wrote: | | > Doru, | > | > What do you understand with 'levels'? Is it referenced projects? | | Yes. Nested projects, each being under development :) | | > Perhaps this is the difference I did not immediately extract from | > your description. Re-reading it with this focus makes the | > difference clear I think. | > | > My use of the toolbox is indeed to generate or update a version for | > a single project where all 'nested' projects are referenced by | > project version. As I understand it, the snapshot version is a | > 'flattened' version containing all packages? | | Yes. | | My end goal would be to be able to create automatic transitive | versioning of all nested configurations, but this requires some more | work, and likely some extension at the level of Metacello. So, until | this happens, we now have the option of snapshotting all packages. | | The cool thing is that if you have something like: | ConfigurationOfMoose depends on ConfigurationOfGlamour | | then in the list of snapshotted packages, you will also get the | version of ConfigurationOfGlamour. Thus, essentially, you obtain the | same thing as if you would load nested configurations. | | The only problem is that because we lose configuration nesting | information, Metacello is unable to resolve possible diamond | conflicts. For example, suppose you have a project that depends on a | certain version X of Glamour, but also would like to load the whole | Moose that loads version Y of Glamour. If you use normal | configurations, Metacello should be able to detect the conflict, but | if you only have flattened versions, you will likely not detect the | conflict so easily. In any case, I think this is acceptable at the | moment. | | Cheers, | Doru | | | | > I think I get it now. thanks | > | > Johan | > | > On 24 Jul 2013, at 12:45, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: | > | >> Perhaps I missed something in the toolbox, but as far as I know | >> you cannot create a version of a configuration that is composed | >> of multiple sub-projects nested multiple levels deep. | >> | >> Could you describe the way you are using the Metacello Toolbox? | >> | >> Doru | >> | >> | >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Johan Brichau | >> <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: | >> Hi Doru, Stef, | >> | >> May I ask what the difference is with the version generation and | >> updating methods found in MetacelloToolbox ? I want to | >> understand, because I am currently using these of | >> MetacelloToolbox to do the things you describe. | >> | >> Cheers! | >> Johan | >> | >> On 24 Jul 2013, at 09:52, StÃ©phane Ducasse | >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: | >> | >>> | >>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> | >>> wrote: | >>> | >>>> Hi, | >>>> | >>>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse | >>>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: | >>>> | >>>>> | >>>>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs | >>>>> <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: | >>>>> | >>>>>> Stef, | >>>>>> | >>>>>> I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what | >>>>>> SnapshotCello does so I don't have an informed opinion ... | >>>>>> the fact that you found a need to invent SnapshotCello does | >>>>>> speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that is going | >>>>>> unmet:). | >>>>>> | >>>>>> However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a | >>>>>> non-spec message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). | >>>>>> Tools like Versioner will not be able to rewrite a method | >>>>>> like this correctly so it is a less than satisfactory | >>>>>> workaround to the method literal limit. | >>>>> Indeed. May be in the future we could recreate a simple | >>>>> compliant spec driven method by interpreting the | >>>>> existing configuration trees but this requires some work. | >>>> | >>>> I do not understand this point. What do you mean by | >>>> "interpreting the configuration trees"? | >>> | >>> I mean going over the configurations with dependencies to | >>> recreate the tree structure but with versions. | >>> May be this is not needed because for versions we do not need | >>> dependencies so just group them per configurations. | >>> | >>>> | >>>> Doru | >>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> With that said it _is_ performing a useful function ... | >>>>>> | >>>>>> I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the | >>>>>> method literal limit from a slightly different angle and I | >>>>>> would assume that SnapshotCello could be recast to use this | >>>>>> "approved approach" when the new techinique becomes | >>>>>> available. At that time it would make sense to roll the | >>>>>> SnapshotCello funtionality into the MetacelloToolBox... | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Dale | >>>>>> | >>>>>> [1] | >>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tp4699965p4700161.html | >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>>>> | From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> | >>>>>> | To: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch> | >>>>>> | Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome" | >>>>>> | <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, "Pharo Development List" | >>>>>> | <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> | >>>>>> | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:17:50 PM | >>>>>> | Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should | >>>>>> | be | >>>>>> | integrated to Metacello. | >>>>>> | Because everybody may need this cool feature. | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | Stef | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba | >>>>>> | <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> | >>>>>> | wrote: | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | > Hi, | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that | >>>>>> | > enables | >>>>>> | > you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on | >>>>>> | > what is | >>>>>> | > already loaded in your current image. | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > The idea is simple. You develop against the latest | >>>>>> | > versions of all | >>>>>> | > packages, and commit your changes for each package. When | >>>>>> | > you are | >>>>>> | > ready for a release, you assemble your image, and generate | >>>>>> | > a | >>>>>> | > snapshot version that can be reloaded later. | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > Here is an example of how it can work to take a snapshot | >>>>>> | > of a | >>>>>> | > development version: | >>>>>> | > Snapshotcello new | >>>>>> | > configurationClass: ConfigurationOfMoose; | >>>>>> | > configurationVersion: #development; | >>>>>> | > publishVersion: '4.8-snapshot' | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > You can find more details here: | >>>>>> | > http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-re… | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > You can get the code at: | >>>>>> | > Gofer new | >>>>>> | > smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello'; | >>>>>> | > package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello'; | >>>>>> | > load. | >>>>>> | > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello) | >>>>>> | > loadDevelopment | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > Cheers, | >>>>>> | > Doru | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > -- | >>>>>> | > www.tudorgirba.com | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > | >>>>>> | > _______________________________________________ | >>>>>> | > Moose-dev mailing list | >>>>>> | > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch | >>>>>> | > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | _______________________________________________ | >>>>>> | Moose-dev mailing list | >>>>>> | Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch | >>>>>> | https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev | >>>>>> | | >>>>> | >>>>> | >>>>> _______________________________________________ | >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list | >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch | >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev | >>>> | >>>> -- | >>>> www.tudorgirba.com | >>>> | >>>> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are | >>>> similar." | >>> | >>> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> -- | >> www.tudorgirba.com | >> | >> "Every thing has its own flow" | > | > | | -- | www.tudorgirba.com | | "Every now and then stop and ask yourself if the war you're fighting | is the right one." | | | | |

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

by Dale K. Henrichs

----- Original Message ----- | From: "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> | To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> | Cc: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>, "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> | Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:07:48 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello | | Hi, | | On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, "Dale K. Henrichs" | <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: | | > Stef, | > | > I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello | > does so I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you | > found a need to invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the | > fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). | | What is not clear? I would be interested in describing our scenario | in more details because I think this is a development pattern. But, | I need some concrete questions to start from. I do not completely understand what SnapshotCello is actually doing let alone why it is doing what it is doing ... So I need to spend time with it to "wrap my brain around it" then I can ask concrete questions.... | | > However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec | > message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like | > Versioner will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly | > so it is a less than satisfactory workaround to the method literal | > limit. | | I still do not understand why Versionner would be affected by the | current versions given that we are only generating versions that | should be immutable hence no need for management. I made my comments without having wrapped my head around SnapshotCello and it is my standard reaction to non-spec-based message sends ... I reserve the right to someday switch to a non-class-based implementation for Metacello and problems like too many literals in a method will no longer be a problem (and the tool many literals issue is but one of the forces driving me away from class-based specs), but specs that are generated dynamically based on data gleaned from arbitrary message sends will not be mappable. So I continue to repeat the message that Metacello does not support the dynamic generation of specs. In your particular case you are probably living within acceptable bounds, but the very existence of "message sends within a spec" may encourage other folks to try their hand at dynamic generation....and we are off to the races:) So I continue to repeat the message that Metacello does not support the dynamic generation of specs. | | > With that said it _is_ performing a useful function ... | > | > I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the method | > literal limit from a slightly different angle and I would assume | > that SnapshotCello could be recast to use this "approved approach" | > when the new techinique becomes available. At that time it would | > make sense to roll the SnapshotCello funtionality into the | > MetacelloToolBox... | | Having a different way to store the information should be no problem. | I am curious about your ideas. I've tossed out some of my ideas in a post in the metacello mailing list[1]. And that would be a good place to discusss this further... Dale [1] http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tc4699965.html

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I would be happy to blend Snapshotcello into Metacello. Cheers, Doru On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:05 PM, "Dale K. Henrichs" <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > | To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > | Cc: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>, "Any question about pharo is welcome" > | <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:48:27 PM > | Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello > | > | > | On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs > | <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > | > | > Stef, > | > > | > I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello > | > does so I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you > | > found a need to invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the > | > fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). > | > > | > However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec > | > message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like > | > Versioner will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly > | > so it is a less than satisfactory workaround to the method literal > | > limit. > | > | Indeed. May be in the future we could recreate a simple compliant > | spec driven method by interpreting the > | existing configuration trees but this requires some work. > > Absolutely and it would be work that I'd be willing to do ... From that perspective SnapshotCello is a very good spec for what you and the Moose team need. > > Dale > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow."

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

by Dale K. Henrichs

----- Original Message ----- | From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> | To: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> | Cc: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch>, "Any question about pharo is welcome" | <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:48:27 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello | | | On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs | <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: | | > Stef, | > | > I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello | > does so I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you | > found a need to invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the | > fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). | > | > However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec | > message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like | > Versioner will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly | > so it is a less than satisfactory workaround to the method literal | > limit. | | Indeed. May be in the future we could recreate a simple compliant | spec driven method by interpreting the | existing configuration trees but this requires some work. Absolutely and it would be work that I'd be willing to do ... From that perspective SnapshotCello is a very good spec for what you and the Moose team need. Dale

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Doru, > > What do you understand with 'levels'? Is it referenced projects? Yes. Nested projects, each being under development :) > Perhaps this is the difference I did not immediately extract from your description. Re-reading it with this focus makes the difference clear I think. > > My use of the toolbox is indeed to generate or update a version for a single project where all 'nested' projects are referenced by project version. As I understand it, the snapshot version is a 'flattened' version containing all packages? Yes. My end goal would be to be able to create automatic transitive versioning of all nested configurations, but this requires some more work, and likely some extension at the level of Metacello. So, until this happens, we now have the option of snapshotting all packages. The cool thing is that if you have something like: ConfigurationOfMoose depends on ConfigurationOfGlamour then in the list of snapshotted packages, you will also get the version of ConfigurationOfGlamour. Thus, essentially, you obtain the same thing as if you would load nested configurations. The only problem is that because we lose configuration nesting information, Metacello is unable to resolve possible diamond conflicts. For example, suppose you have a project that depends on a certain version X of Glamour, but also would like to load the whole Moose that loads version Y of Glamour. If you use normal configurations, Metacello should be able to detect the conflict, but if you only have flattened versions, you will likely not detect the conflict so easily. In any case, I think this is acceptable at the moment. Cheers, Doru > I think I get it now. thanks > > Johan > > On 24 Jul 2013, at 12:45, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps I missed something in the toolbox, but as far as I know you cannot create a version of a configuration that is composed of multiple sub-projects nested multiple levels deep. >> >> Could you describe the way you are using the Metacello Toolbox? >> >> Doru >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >> Hi Doru, Stef, >> >> May I ask what the difference is with the version generation and updating methods found in MetacelloToolbox ? I want to understand, because I am currently using these of MetacelloToolbox to do the things you describe. >> >> Cheers! >> Johan >> >> On 24 Jul 2013, at 09:52, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Stef, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like Versioner will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly so it is a less than satisfactory workaround to the method literal limit. >>>>> Indeed. May be in the future we could recreate a simple compliant spec driven method by interpreting the >>>>> existing configuration trees but this requires some work. >>>> >>>> I do not understand this point. What do you mean by "interpreting the configuration trees"? >>> >>> I mean going over the configurations with dependencies to recreate the tree structure but with versions. >>> May be this is not needed because for versions we do not need dependencies so just group them per configurations. >>> >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> With that said it _is_ performing a useful function ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the method literal limit from a slightly different angle and I would assume that SnapshotCello could be recast to use this "approved approach" when the new techinique becomes available. At that time it would make sense to roll the SnapshotCello funtionality into the MetacelloToolBox... >>>>>> >>>>>> Dale >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tp4699965p4700161.html >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> | From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>>>> | To: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>>>>> | Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, "Pharo Development List" >>>>>> | <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> >>>>>> | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:17:50 PM >>>>>> | Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be >>>>>> | integrated to Metacello. >>>>>> | Because everybody may need this cool feature. >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Stef >>>>>> | >>>>>> | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>>>> | wrote: >>>>>> | >>>>>> | > Hi, >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables >>>>>> | > you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is >>>>>> | > already loaded in your current image. >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all >>>>>> | > packages, and commit your changes for each package. When you are >>>>>> | > ready for a release, you assemble your image, and generate a >>>>>> | > snapshot version that can be reloaded later. >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > Here is an example of how it can work to take a snapshot of a >>>>>> | > development version: >>>>>> | > Snapshotcello new >>>>>> | > configurationClass: ConfigurationOfMoose; >>>>>> | > configurationVersion: #development; >>>>>> | > publishVersion: '4.8-snapshot' >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > You can find more details here: >>>>>> | > http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-re… >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > You can get the code at: >>>>>> | > Gofer new >>>>>> | > smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello'; >>>>>> | > package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello'; >>>>>> | > load. >>>>>> | > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello) >>>>>> | > loadDevelopment >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > Cheers, >>>>>> | > Doru >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > -- >>>>>> | > www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> | > Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> | > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> | > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | _______________________________________________ >>>>>> | Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> | Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> | https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> | >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every now and then stop and ask yourself if the war you're fighting is the right one."

July 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading scripts vs. configs with #stable and config browser (was: [ann] snapshotcello)

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > + 1 :) > This is why I'm working on the PackageCatalog :) +1 and... cool! PackageCatalog is very needed... where is the code hosted? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Loading-scripts-vs-configs-with-stable-and-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 24, 2013