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Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Job use SystemAnnouncer?

by Stephan Eggermont

Camillo wrote: >in this case it is only the instance of Job which knows the status. >Thread-safeness is not an issue since the progress bar is pure approximation. The problem is not approximation. Objects are not reentrant, getting the value out of a model while it is reorganizing its datastructure is likely to give interesting and difficult to reproduce results (dividing by 0, nil-pointer exceptions). >that does not work properly and inaccurately reports long running jobs, for instance >when running tests. Usually tests take far less than 1 ms, in which case this scheme >works perfectly. However from time to time you have 1 test that runs for a couple of >seconds. If you run 5000 tests you have to run quite a few tests to get that 1% update >margin, so very often the UI does not correctly report the current status. That is not a solvable problem. A progress bar depends on a value increasing from min to max. The model is responsible for making reasonable steps. >Anyway, this requires quite some changes in the current ProgressBarMorph, so any other >improvement until then is welcome :) I've put together a new slice in the 30 Inbox with the combined changes. Where should I put a backport for 2.0?

Sept. 3, 2013

Win32 Console support

by Torsten Bergmann

Denis wrote >Hi. >Interesting, what will happen if you run printing lines to console in loop >and then stop console scrollbar by mouse? Will image hangs? Nothing spectacular - when I click the scrollbar (while output from ST loops) the output stops until I finish moving the scrollbar slider of the console window. When I release the mouse from the slider it will continue to write to console output. Image does not hang. Bye T.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

agreed we should change that since years. Some days we should stop and fix all the glitches that give us these hiccups. stef On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > this is most annoying to me, that UI interrupts you in very strange manner > and asks you to make a decision: > - accept, or discard the method, or cancel the action. > > often, you are in the middle of typing new stuff and source code > can be even not syntactically correct.. so, you have to discard or die :) > > what i think the solution could be is that browser should allow you to switch contexts > at any moment without asking you anything.Instead it should remember your > unsaved changes in special 'drafts' collection, which later you can get back on, > when you finish what you wanted to do. > > And the only time when you want unaccepted edits to not get lost forever is when you closing > a browser window.. (but of course, drafts can be stored globally somewhere, > then it also not a big deal, since you can simply return to your draft in different window). > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win32 Console support

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi. Interesting, what will happen if you run printing lines to console in loop and then stop console scrollbar by mouse? Will image hangs? 2013/9/3 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > I played with NativeBoost and the Windows API again > this evening with the result to be able to open a > native Win32 console window, influence title and colors > and write to it from Pharo. This can be useful for coral > and stdout support on Windows too. > > Attached is a screenshot. > > Cleaned up code will follow soon. > > Thx > T.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-09-03, at 09:36, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > And I would probably have to come and try to maintain your fork because you wouldn't be using it and let it be deprecated for pharo 4 or 5... exactly, and for each Pharo version there is a different branch of OSProcess. well, once you start working on git you see the advantages of branches ;) too bad that the monticello tools do not properly support this feature.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by btc＠openinworld.com

kilon wrote: > I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept > button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is > automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use > undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes could > help here, I know pharo users use this to recover lost changes) similar to > ones found in Photoshop or 3d apps that the user can use to return back in > time to any change he made without pressing undo continuously. > > It is annoyance and offers zero advantages as it is to the user. But I am > curious to listening to other opinions as well on this. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Switching-context-s-in-browser-while-method-is-not-ye… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > That sounds dangerous, particularly if you are playing with internals of UI or other system parts. What if half way through an edit you need to leave the keyboard, and that ends up being a few hours or longer, and you don't remember where you were. regards -ben

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by kilon

I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes could help here, I know pharo users use this to recover lost changes) similar to ones found in Photoshop or 3d apps that the user can use to return back in time to any change he made without pressing undo continuously. It is annoyance and offers zero advantages as it is to the user. But I am curious to listening to other opinions as well on this. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Switching-context-s-in-browser-while-method-is-not-ye… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 3, 2013

Sound on Ubuntu Problems

by J.F. Rick

I'm using Pharo 2.0 on Ubuntu 13.10 and I can't seem to get sound working. Getting sound to work on Linux seems to be a common problem. While I've checked the archive for solutions, none of them work for me. I've investigated a bit and here's what I've found: Inside of the /usr/lib/pharo-vm directory, I see the following: vm-sound-ALSA.so vm-sound-null.so vm-sound-pulse.so (I added that based on an archive post that this would work) When I do "pharo -vm-sound-null pharo.image", it works correctly. When I do "pharo -vm-sound-ALSA pharo.image", it gives me an error that "could not find module vm-sound-ALSA". When I do "pharo-help", I find that the only sound driver available is "vm-sound-null", though the others are clearly there in the directory. Is there anything I can do to make the VM acknowledge that the other files are there? Cheers, Jeff -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Great. Thank you for the quick fix! Sabine On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4706299h64(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > > On 03 Sep 2013, at 16:33, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4706299&i=0>> > wrote: > > > Hi Jan, Hi Sven, > > > > in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > > (http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents) > > > > there is following entry > > > > package: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core' with: > > 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.15'; > > > > which has an invalid reference to removed variable refreshToken > > could you please reference > > > > Name: Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 > > instead > > === > Name: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.52 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 3 September 2013, 4:45:48.745714 pm > UUID: 703372ae-f1b9-4c1a-add5-b0696a4375b1 > Ancestors: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > > Quick patch to reference Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 in current > v 2.4.4 > === > > Thanks, Sven > > > or allow me to do this? > > > > regards > > Sabine > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > To unsubscribe from I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents, click > here<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 03 Sep 2013, at 16:33, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jan, Hi Sven, > > in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > (http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents) > > there is following entry > > package: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core' with: > 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.15'; > > which has an invalid reference to removed variable refreshToken > could you please reference > > Name: Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 > instead === Name: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.52 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 3 September 2013, 4:45:48.745714 pm UUID: 703372ae-f1b9-4c1a-add5-b0696a4375b1 Ancestors: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 Quick patch to reference Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 in current v 2.4.4 === Thanks, Sven > or allow me to do this? > > regards > Sabine > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 3, 2013