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Re: [Pharo-dev] Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by news{＠bestley.co.uk

kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Yeah the refresh issue is something I will fix soon. > > About markdown, I was thinking of doing this the pharo way. Using smalltalk > syntax and creating a help designer. I assume morphic can embed morphs > inside a text. I think it would be far more preferable for a user to use a > text editor. So I am hoping to do that with Prometheas, no need for > markdown, or ugly xml / hmtl , just edit away directly, like you would with > microsoft word. Ideally I would broke everything down to submorphs. > > This is why I am here discussing this, I am still trying to do this a nice > way that people will find easy, user friendly, powerful and fun. > > Could be this done is a similar way to the CUIS Styled text Editor and Wiki? <http://www.stic.st/2012/04/styled-text-editor-for-cuis-4-0-smalltalk/> >From the videoI see a possible application for that was a "StyledhelpTextBrowser" -- Mark

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PBE2?

by Alexandre Bergel

> as far as I understand PBE2 is actually deep into pharo. Yes > Maybe we should update PBE because when someone new starts to work with pharo I usually suggest him to read PBE. Pharo 3 will have a lot of new cool features, and people have to work with 1.1. > What do you think? It is true that it would be great to update PBE. I tell usually my students that are differences between Pharo 2.0 and what they will read. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 18, 2013

PBE2?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi everyone, as far as I understand PBE2 is actually deep into pharo. Maybe we should update PBE because when someone new starts to work with pharo I usually suggest him to read PBE. Pharo 3 will have a lot of new cool features, and people have to work with 1.1. What do you think? Cheers! Uko

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSX Pharo VMs

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-09-18, at 11:13, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{(a)bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote: >> >>> I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and >>> tried to download a VM >>> >>> The ones on the download >>> page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an >>> .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it. >> >> I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again? >> >>> >>> I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/> >>> >>> The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is >>> reported as damaged but the >>> <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated >>> 16th Sept starts. >>> >>> I have a older working VM >>> >>> Smalltalk vm version. >>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >>> 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 >>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>> ' >>> >>> Which is the correct stable Mac VM? >> >> the one that has "stable" in its name. >> latest => unstable / alpha / test release >> stable => THE stable one >> >> now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the >> all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know >> why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the >> stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM >> is close(-ish) to release. > > no, it is not :) > is the "platform specific distribution of vm+image", something that we kinda need, but better than now :) How is it not? The latest VM works better than stable? On OSX: - backspace works - JIT bug disappeared Which are 2 things that do not work in the stable version. What is missing?

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSX Pharo VMs

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{(a)bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote: > >> I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and >> tried to download a VM >> >> The ones on the download >> page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an >> .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it. > > I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again? > >> >> I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/> >> >> The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is >> reported as damaged but the >> <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated >> 16th Sept starts. >> >> I have a older working VM >> >> Smalltalk vm version. >> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >> 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 >> By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >> ' >> >> Which is the correct stable Mac VM? > > the one that has "stable" in its name. > latest => unstable / alpha / test release > stable => THE stable one > > now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the > all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know > why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the > stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM > is close(-ish) to release. no, it is not :) is the "platform specific distribution of vm+image", something that we kinda need, but better than now :) Esteban > > Does this answer your questions?

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] if Pharo is key for you

by phil＠highoctane.be

Amen. FWIW, I am promoting Pharo as a technology I'll use during the eGov Hackathon Weekend in early october. http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/home/agenda/agenda/hackathon-egov-walloni… http://hackathonegovwallonia.net/ "C*hacun des prototypes de service ou dâapplications* dÃ©veloppÃ©s au cours et dans le cadre du Hackathon eGov Wallonia feront lâobjet dâune *vaste publicitÃ©"* * * *Well, I guess I'll manage to get some Pharo mentions in there.* * * *(And I paid the EUR 85 ticket to get in, damnit.)* * * */Phil*

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloning a git repo with FileSystem-Git

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-09-18, at 10:28, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I want to be able to clone Amber github repo from Pharo for AmberOneClick ( > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~LaurentLaffont/AmberOneClick) > > This: > > ConfigurationOfFileSystemGit loadBleedingEdge. > > git := GitAbstractProtocol url: ' > https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git'. > git want: git head. > > seems to get data from the git repo, but I do not understand how to create > the directory / local repo on my hard drive. Any hint ? What you're working with is just the protocol layer of the whole git infrastructure. We never fully finished the protocol layer, so unless you want to fully finish it, I suggest downloading the repository using external tools for now (yes it sucks :P). OSProcess command: 'git clone https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git' (FileSystemGitRepository on: 'amber.git' asFileReference) head. To continue your original question: "get the compressed git contents" packData := git want: git head. "uncompress them and create an in-image/memory git repository" packFile := GitPackFile readFrom: packData readStream. "get the repository object. Note that this contains everything you need to start opening a FileSystem on it, as described above with FileSystemGitRepository" repository := packFile repository. "copy over the contents of the in-memory repository to the OS FS" repository repository workingDir copyAllTo: 'path/to/amber' asFileReference

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub => 503

by Nicolas Petton

Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> Do you need the pharo image to serve a directory listing or file download? I mean Stephans job basically does only this two actions and theoretically they should work even if the image has gone, right? > > > I might be wrong, but I think there is no mcz file on the server. > Everything is stored in a mongo database. Yes, exactly. Nico > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] if Pharo is key for you

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Stephane, This mail is in part a personal disclaimer and in part "a suggestion". In my case I'm chasing a big customer prospect (took longer than expected but we're almost there), at the beginning of this year we decided to use Pharo as the backend technology. But I already work as a full time Smalltalk PM+Developer and I don't have more than a few hours per week to dedicate to develop the core business of our project (which also has an Android client that also absorbs a lot of time). Being part of a loyal user base that promotes Pharo on every chance is important, maybe not as important as pushing code/docs back to the community, or paying a yearly fee. But I think that the user base, as humble or small as it might be, _must not be disregarded_. Today the overlap between the user base and the contributors is big, but I wouldn't see an small overlap as a bad thing. In fact it would be a good thing! Nobody would claim that Wikipedia is a failure because 99.98% of the readers never edit. On the other hand Business model/Funding is a WHOLE different story. Regards, Esteban. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/18 kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>: > How does "extending Pharo help tool " sounds ? :) > > I am struggling to learn how morphic really works, especially TreeMorph. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/if-Pharo-is-key-for-you-tp4708875p4708917.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 18, 2013

Cloning a git repo with FileSystem-Git

by laurent laffont

Hi, I want to be able to clone Amber github repo from Pharo for AmberOneClick ( http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~LaurentLaffont/AmberOneClick) This: ConfigurationOfFileSystemGit loadBleedingEdge. git := GitAbstractProtocol url: ' https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git'. git want: git head. seems to get data from the git repo, but I do not understand how to create the directory / local repo on my hard drive. Any hint ? Regards, Laurent

Sept. 18, 2013