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Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crashâ¦.

by Goubier Thierry

I remember trying to recover mail folders by reading the blocks on disk one by one with a binary editor... Ended learning far too much about the internal layout of an ext2 filesystem. But dead harddrive is nice in one way: you don't loose time trying to recover stuff, you know it's dead :( Thierry Le 17/10/2013 23:10, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > so backup your machineâ¦ because mine was still working at 8h this morning and 8h40 dropped dead > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo 3 theme

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > > > Le 18/10/2013 10:33, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : >> I started to experiment with a dark theme (after Phil asked it). > > You've beaten me to it! But I know that I'm having too much on my plate at the moment. yeah, me too... but I also have insomnia, and those nights I usually hack something (only condition is: no regular work, just things I'm curious or exited) :) > >> The problem is that everything in morphic is so crapy programmed that >> remove the hardcoding stuff is incredible hard. > > One of the reason why I wasn't rushing to it :):) > >> Anyway, I have an initial design that could work (at least for the >> simple skins), now it remains the work of decoupling the skin from the >> morphs... no idea when I will finish anyway. > > Could you reuse the Pharo theme and change the color scheme here? I expected that dark theme issue and related work to be a good test bed to redesign / modularize the theme software architecture, but if people need it, then rushing a bit and refactoring later could be the way to go. yes, but even the basics is hard to achieve. So far my design is simple: let the morphs skins themselves, using a theme (or the default), and double dispatch to ensure decoupling... The design works, the problem is the cleanup needed to make it work (tons of places where colors and others are hardcoded). Take this as an example: Text class>>fromString: aString "Answer an instance of me whose characters are those of the argument, aString." | defaultFontStyle fontNumber | defaultFontStyle := TextStyle default. fontNumber := defaultFontStyle ifNil: 1 ifNotNil: [defaultFontStyle defaultFontIndex]. ^ self string: aString attributes:{ (TextFontChange fontNumber: fontNumber). ( TextColor color: Color black ) } The problem is that this is constructing a Text object with hardcoded default attributes (which btw, are non necessary). That means if you have a black (or darkGray) bg for your text areas, as soon as you accept (it creates a "clean text object") you will not be able to see your text :) Other thing is that many of this stuff are not just bad, but also useless, I rewrote that method as: ^ self string: aString attributes: {} and everything continues working exactly as before (with the difference that now a black bg works :) Esteban > > Thierry > >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk >> <mailto:thekilon@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: >> >>> I completely agree, I hate it as much I hate apples new scroll bar, >>> that disappear as soon as you stop scrolling with magic mouse making >>> them impossible to use manually. Also what with all the white ? I >>> seriously need to make a dark theme for pharo, my eyes start hurting >>> ..... aaaaaaaaaaaa ;D >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 18 October 2013, 11:02, Esteban Lorenzano >>> <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> yesterday I also adding settings for IconSet... so you should be able >>> to play around with themes and icons :) >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr >>> <mailto:thierry.goubier@cea.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> > Is unusable on some brightness settings: the scroll bars become >>> invisible to my old eyes :) >>> > >>> > Thierry >>> > -- >>> > Thierry Goubier >>> > CEA list >>> > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>> > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>> > France >>> > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo 3 theme

by Goubier Thierry

Le 18/10/2013 10:33, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > I started to experiment with a dark theme (after Phil asked it). You've beaten me to it! But I know that I'm having too much on my plate at the moment. > The problem is that everything in morphic is so crapy programmed that > remove the hardcoding stuff is incredible hard. One of the reason why I wasn't rushing to it :):) > Anyway, I have an initial design that could work (at least for the > simple skins), now it remains the work of decoupling the skin from the > morphs... no idea when I will finish anyway. Could you reuse the Pharo theme and change the color scheme here? I expected that dark theme issue and related work to be a good test bed to redesign / modularize the theme software architecture, but if people need it, then rushing a bit and refactoring later could be the way to go. Thierry > > Esteban > > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk > <mailto:thekilon@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: > >> I completely agree, I hate it as much I hate apples new scroll bar, >> that disappear as soon as you stop scrolling with magic mouse making >> them impossible to use manually. Also what with all the white ? I >> seriously need to make a dark theme for pharo, my eyes start hurting >> ..... aaaaaaaaaaaa ;D >> >> >> On Friday, 18 October 2013, 11:02, Esteban Lorenzano >> <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >> yesterday I also adding settings for IconSet... so you should be able >> to play around with themes and icons :) >> >> On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@cea.fr>> wrote: >> >> > Is unusable on some brightness settings: the scroll bars become >> invisible to my old eyes :) >> > >> > Thierry >> > -- >> > Thierry Goubier >> > CEA list >> > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> > France >> > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> > >> >> >> > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo 3 theme

by Henrik Johansen

On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:26 , dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I completely agree, I hate it as much I hate apples new scroll bar, that disappear as soon as you stop scrolling with magic mouse making them impossible to use manually. Preferences -> General -> Show scroll bars ;) Cheers, Henry

Oct. 18, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-M-Z/labe… 2 regressions found. Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testLocalMethodsOfTheClassShouldNotBeRepeatedInItsTraits Zinc.Zodiac.ZnHTTPSTests.testGetPharoVersion

Oct. 18, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-M-Z/labe… 1 regressions found. Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testLocalMethodsOfTheClassShouldNotBeRepeatedInItsTraits

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo 3 theme

by Goubier Thierry

Le 18/10/2013 10:01, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > yesterday I also adding settings for IconSet... so you should be able to play around with themes and icons :) That one works perfectly, thanks :) > On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > >> Is unusable on some brightness settings: the scroll bars become invisible to my old eyes :) >> >> Thierry >> -- >> Thierry Goubier >> CEA list >> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> France >> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 18, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-M-Z/labe… 1 regressions found. Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testLocalMethodsOfTheClassShouldNotBeRepeatedInItsTraits

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] default monospaced code font

by Norbert Hartl

97 (..wellâ¦98) mails in one thread is quite a number. So fonts seems to be the biggest concern these days. That could say something about pharo ;) Norbert Am 17.10.2013 um 19:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > yes, that's because I failed to configure the new fonts and system fallbacks to the default font... to everything. > anyway I switched back, while I see why font changes are not taken into account. > > no log needed :) > > On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, btc(a)openInWorld.com wrote: > >> Not sure if anyone noticed this previously, but I had a problem with Monticello repositories not showing the usual convention to bold and underline items to indicate which were in the image - and tracked this down to being introduced between builds #30469 and #30470. Coincidently this is where the default font seemed to change from DejaVu to Source Code Pro. Looks like the default is back to DejaVi in build #30497, so I'm not sure what you'd like to do about logging this as an issue. >> >> cheers -ben >> > >

Oct. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo 3 theme

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 18 Oct 2013, at 10:33, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I started to experiment with a dark theme (after Phil asked it). > The problem is that everything in morphic is so crapy programmed that remove the hardcoding stuff is incredible hard. > Anyway, I have an initial design that could work (at least for the simple skins), now it remains the work of decoupling the skin from the morphs... no idea when I will finish anyway. You do too much, Esteban ;-) I am sure that other will try to help once you get something experimental out of the door. > Esteban > > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> I completely agree, I hate it as much I hate apples new scroll bar, that disappear as soon as you stop scrolling with magic mouse making them impossible to use manually. Also what with all the white ? I seriously need to make a dark theme for pharo, my eyes start hurting ..... aaaaaaaaaaaa ;D >> >> >> On Friday, 18 October 2013, 11:02, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> yesterday I also adding settings for IconSet... so you should be able to play around with themes and icons :) >> >> On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: >> >> > Is unusable on some brightness settings: the scroll bars become invisible to my old eyes :) >> > >> > Thierry >> > -- >> > Thierry Goubier >> > CEA list >> > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> > France >> > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> > >> >> >> >

Oct. 18, 2013