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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Igor Stasenko

Yeah, i was also exploring, why even if i do not touch image i got like 3-5% CPU load. What i found that it is in VM. Because i basicaly removed everything in image, and just left idle process, and still had such loads. On 23 October 2013 13:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The > good new is that my trusty VM [1] is still working OK ! > > However, something seems to have changed regarding full screen mode: it > more or less works but there are two black bands and the window title > remains visible, it is as if it did not expand enough: > > > Which is a pity: I rely on this a lot to get more screen space on my 13 > inch screen and to work distraction free. > > I guess weâll have to wait for our hero Esteban to have a look. > > Also new is the focus on energy management and efficiency. Sadly Pharo is > flagged as using to much (look at the menu under the battery icon top right > and the energy tab in the activity monitor): > > > This is probably related to the busy thread running/polling every ms or so > inside the VM. > > I could turn these into issues. > > Sven > > [1] > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 > By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > > Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< > VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.gitCommit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 > +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

by Igor Stasenko

(i am not fully understood what happens there, but here some thought which might be useful). About that popup: - if its a warning, then you can see it in interactive mode. in headless mode all warnings are ignored and program just continues to run. This is equivalent as if user pressed 'proceed' when he sees warning. If you don't want to proceed at such point, then you should throw an error instead of warning, then in headless mode the process abort and quit, and as result, integration will fail. And of course, you can do even smarter things like: Smalltalk isInteractive ifTrue: [ self showWarning ] ifFalse: [ self throwError ]. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Marcus Denker

On 23 Oct 2013, at 13:57, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > off-topic: > Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ? > Cause I can not properly delete messages :( > Yes, me too. Marcus

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] i wish i could live in a world...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Me too :) We are slowly getting there. Alain does not have globals anymore. I should really take the time to have a look and push but â¦. o frustration. Stef > where morphs has position relative to their owner morph. > and laying out morphs or composing them into complex layout easy > and event handling is easy .. > and things are properly documented > :) > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

sven Soon you will be able to produce PharoTopics taking this git file as input :) ZnClient new get: 'https://raw.github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/master/Topics.…'. Stef On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi StÃ©phane, > > It is actually even simpler, you can use either: > > ZnEasy get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > or: > > ZnClient new > get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > They return slightly different things, in the first case the response object, in the second case the actual contents. Look for users of ZnClient in the system and tests for tons of examples. > > HTH, > > Sven > > On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:46, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> hi sven >> >> I would like to fetch a file stored on github >> >> ZnEasy client >> url: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'; >> get; >> response >> >> Else I tried to read zodiac code but I missed some examples. >> I tried to read the tests but I failed. >> >> Stef >> >> >> > >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30516

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>>>> >>>> >>>> The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ? >>>> Is there another place to see the same information ? >>>> >>> Yes, the commit mail from Git. >>> >>> Normally I don't send this mail anymore. >> >> OK, I guess it is all a lot of work, but they were a very useful summary. >> > > the content is in the git mail, too. That's why I wonder if sending it twice makes sense. I will continue to send them when I integrate changes. And wait that everything else works for real. >>>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 30516 >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> 11694 Trait methods wrong after recompiling the image >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11694 >>>>> >>>>> Diff information: >>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Traits-MarcusDenker.584.diff >>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenke… >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Benjamin

off-topic: Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ? Cause I can not properly delete messages :( Ben On 23 Oct 2013, at 13:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The good new is that my trusty VM [1] is still working OK ! > > However, something seems to have changed regarding full screen mode: it more or less works but there are two black bands and the window title remains visible, it is as if it did not expand enough: > > <Screen Shot 2013-10-23 at 13.40.56.png> > > Which is a pity: I rely on this a lot to get more screen space on my 13 inch screen and to work distraction free. > > I guess weâll have to wait for our hero Esteban to have a look. > > Also new is the focus on energy management and efficiency. Sadly Pharo is flagged as using to much (look at the menu under the battery icon top right and the energy tab in the activity monitor): > > <Screen Shot 2013-10-23 at 13.49.53.png> > > This is probably related to the busy thread running/polling every ms or so inside the VM. > > I could turn these into issues. > > Sven > > [1] > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > > Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< > VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi StÃ©phane, > > It is actually even simpler, you can use either: > > ZnEasy get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > or: > > ZnClient new > get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > They return slightly different things, in the first case the response object, in the second case the actual contents. Look for users of ZnClient in the system and tests for tons of examples. > > HTH, > > Sven > > On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:46, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> hi sven >> >> I would like to fetch a file stored on github >> >> ZnEasy client >> url: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'; >> get; >> response >> >> Else I tried to read zodiac code but I missed some examples. >> I tried to read the tests but I failed. >> >> Stef >> >> >> > >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use it. Let me know if that is incorrect. > > > The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo as backend. > It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different backend(s), like opengl etc. But Athens is an API so the idea is that we should be able to switch to other rendering back-end wtihout been forced to rewrite everything. > > I was wondering for what VMs Athens is applicable. Would it automatically work on Linux? I've also been using Pharo / Squeak on the iPad. Would Athens work there or would the VM have to be changed? > > For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens. > As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it, but i am not expert in iOS > to say if it can be done without much fuss. > Also, since iOS is famous for banning any applications which using generated code, > that means it should be done by writing a VM plugin and then adopting new primitives to > work with Athens API. Igor it also means that we should find a way to get nativeboost wroking on iPad (probably by generating a "DLL" from NB). >

Oct. 23, 2013

Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi, This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The good new is that my trusty VM [1] is still working OK ! However, something seems to have changed regarding full screen mode: it more or less works but there are two black bands and the window title remains visible, it is as if it did not expand enough: Which is a pity: I rely on this a lot to get more screen space on my 13 inch screen and to work distraction free. I guess weâll have to wait for our hero Esteban to have a look. Also new is the focus on energy management and efficiency. Sadly Pharo is flagged as using to much (look at the menu under the battery icon top right and the energy tab in the activity monitor): This is probably related to the busy thread running/polling every ms or so inside the VM. I could turn these into issues. Sven [1] Virtual Machine --------------- /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013

Oct. 23, 2013