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Re: [Pharo-dev] github repository documentation

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-ubuntu > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers I will do it for these 3 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub red

by Stephan Eggermont

SmalltalkHub uses Seaside 3.0.8, referring to an old version of Grease. Upgrading to a newer Seaside should solve that problem, AFAIK Stephan

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by Henrik Johansen

On 28 Oct 2013, at 11:22 , Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 28 Oct 2013, at 11:19, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > >> FWIW I also have serious issues with MetacelloToolBox against an FTP repository. > > We should remove FTP. FTP is evil: the passed is passed in the clear, it is old, it makes > problems with NAT and firewalls. > > FTP should *not* be used in 2013! > > Marcus By the first criteria, shouldnât we remove HTTP repositories as well? Base64 isnât much less plaintext than normal plaintext :) IMHO, from a security POV theyâre both usable if connecting to a local/VPNâed repository on a properly firewalled network. Which also gives an answer to the NAT/firewall dilemma, you shouldnât use FTP directly over the internet anyways. What *would* be nice, is a warning when you add a repository with an insecure authentication protocol, that it better not be accessed through public networks . Cheers, Henry

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by Esteban A. Maringolo

+1 to FTP. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/10/28 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > FTP is easy, and setting up a monticello repo like this takes no time. > Especially on whatever shared hosting account, my NAS, on my own box where > I can share the package-cache folder that way. > > And it can be browsed as well. > > I am not in the mood of maintaining an STH instance with mongo and friends. > > I tried filetree and gitfiletree but those weren't supporting my workflow > easily enough (and for some reason, I got a corrupt something w/ Bitbucket > which let me fight with it for a full damn day). > > Keep FTP alive. > > Phil >

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by Goubier Thierry

Le 28/10/2013 11:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > Thierry, > > ZnUrl now implements #mcRepositoryAsUser:withPassword: though it is currently a hack. > Do you have a suggestion how to make it extendable ? > I will think about it as well, I do have some ideas. Well, I would just move the schemeName on the repository class and add a fromUrl:asUser:withPassword: in the repository instance creation, and change the mcRepositoryAsUser:withPassword: to search among repository types based on the scheme in the url and dispatch with a call to fromUrl:asUser:withPassword: on the right repository class. Thierry > Sven > > On 28 Oct 2013, at 11:18, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Url has been deprecated. What is to be done with the Monticello use of the subclasses of Url? >> >> At the moment, ZnUrl has a hardcoded case switch to redirect on the right type of repository [1], but... It's not extendable, and breaks gitfiletree://. >> >> [1] https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/blob/e89b4ac70d5cef761667317d58… >> >> Thierry >> -- >> Thierry Goubier >> CEA list >> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> France >> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> > > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by phil＠highoctane.be

FTP is easy, and setting up a monticello repo like this takes no time. Especially on whatever shared hosting account, my NAS, on my own box where I can share the package-cache folder that way. And it can be browsed as well. I am not in the mood of maintaining an STH instance with mongo and friends. I tried filetree and gitfiletree but those weren't supporting my workflow easily enough (and for some reason, I got a corrupt something w/ Bitbucket which let me fight with it for a full damn day). Keep FTP alive. Phil

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by Marcus Denker

On 28 Oct 2013, at 11:19, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > FWIW I also have serious issues with MetacelloToolBox against an FTP repository. We should remove FTP. FTP is evil: the passed is passed in the clear, it is old, it makes problems with NAT and firewalls. FTP should *not* be used in 2013! Marcus

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by phil＠highoctane.be

FWIW I also have serious issues with MetacelloToolBox against an FTP repository. Monticello works, but not the automated stuff It is related to the same kind of situation (Pharo 2.0). *MetacelloToolBox * * createDevelopment: '0.1'* * for: 'ConfigurationOfXXX'* * importFromBaseline: '0.1-baseline'* * description: 'initial development version'.* * * *(ConfigurationOfXXX project version: '0.1') load.* * * *(MetacelloToolBox validateConfiguration: ConfigurationOfXXX) explore.* * * *MetacelloToolBox* * updateToLatestPackageVersionsIn: ConfigurationOfXXX* * description: 'Made spinner work for Ajax'.* * * *"Does not seem to work, even if logged int the repository from Monticello"* *Gofer new* * url: 'ftp://ftp.xxx.com/mc';* * package: 'ConfigurationOfXXX';* * commit: 'Gofer test'.* * * *"This one does not work"* *MetacelloToolBox* * saveConfigurationPackageFor: 'ConfigurationOfXXX' description: 'Added config'.* Phil On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr>wrote: > Hi All, > > Url has been deprecated. What is to be done with the Monticello use of the > subclasses of Url? > > At the moment, ZnUrl has a hardcoded case switch to redirect on the right > type of repository [1], but... It's not extendable, and breaks > gitfiletree://. > > [1] https://github.com/pharo-**project/pharo-core/blob/** > e89b4ac70d5cef761667317d58a449**6d443d8a4e/Gofer-Core.package/** > extension/ZnUrl/instance/**mcRepositoryAsUser_**withPassword_.st<https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/blob/e89b4ac70d5cef761667317d58…> > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > >

Oct. 28, 2013

Url deprecated

by Goubier Thierry

Hi All, Url has been deprecated. What is to be done with the Monticello use of the subclasses of Url? At the moment, ZnUrl has a hardcoded case switch to redirect on the right type of repository [1], but... It's not extendable, and breaks gitfiletree://. [1] https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/blob/e89b4ac70d5cef761667317d58… Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Url deprecated

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Thierry, ZnUrl now implements #mcRepositoryAsUser:withPassword: though it is currently a hack. Do you have a suggestion how to make it extendable ? I will think about it as well, I do have some ideas. Sven On 28 Oct 2013, at 11:18, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > Hi All, > > Url has been deprecated. What is to be done with the Monticello use of the subclasses of Url? > > At the moment, ZnUrl has a hardcoded case switch to redirect on the right type of repository [1], but... It's not extendable, and breaks gitfiletree://. > > [1] https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/blob/e89b4ac70d5cef761667317d58… > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Oct. 28, 2013