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Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by Tudor Girba

Exactly. Pharo 3 should be considered stable. Adopting it now will actually give you time to get the possible bugs fixed. Doru On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:32 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > On 16 Dec 2013, at 23:13, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hehe, > > In fact, it works in Pharo3.0 :) > I have some tests that are yellow, I donât know why for now, and I am > waiting for a Pharo3.0 more stable to migrate. > > > Pharo 30 is stable and now beta so this is the time to identify pharo 30 > bug > > > Jannik > > On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:10 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi and congrats for your project. How far are you from porting to Pharo 3 ? > Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 16 ÎÎµÎº 2013 11:46 Î¼.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" < > jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > >> Hi, >> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >> >> There are lots of new features: >> >> - Settings >> - FileSystems >> - Metacello >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >> - integration of Color and Files >> - a lot of new useful blocks >> - projects saved with Fuel >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the >> system >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new >> kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >> â >> Gofer it >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >> username: '' >> password: ''; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >> load. >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >> â >> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >> You can follow Phratch here: >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >> and here : >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On 16 Dec 2013, at 23:13, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hehe, > > In fact, it works in Pharo3.0 :) > I have some tests that are yellow, I donât know why for now, and I am waiting for a Pharo3.0 more stable to migrate. Pharo 30 is stable and now beta so this is the time to identify pharo 30 bug > > Jannik > > On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:10 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi and congrats for your project. How far are you from porting to Pharo 3 ? >> >> Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 16 ÎÎµÎº 2013 11:46 Î¼.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: >> Hi, >> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >> >> There are lots of new features: >> >> - Settings >> - FileSystems >> - Metacello >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >> - integration of Color and Files >> - a lot of new useful blocks >> - projects saved with Fuel >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the system >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >> â >> Gofer it >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >> username: '' >> password: ''; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >> load. >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >> â >> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >> You can follow Phratch here: >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >> and here : >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent jannik you should publish it in the metacello repository on squeaksource metacelloRepository on ss3 metaRepoForPharo20 and add the catalog metadata. Stef On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:45, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. > Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. > > There are lots of new features: > > - Settings > - FileSystems > - Metacello > - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) > - integration of Color and Files > - a lot of new useful blocks > - projects saved with Fuel > - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the system > - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. > > Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: > â > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' > username: '' > password: ''; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. > (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: #saveImageForEndUserSilently. > â > > I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. > You can follow Phratch here: > http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ > and here : > https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ > > Cheers, > Jannik

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by Tudor Girba

Excellent work Jannik! Doru On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:45 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. > Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. > > There are lots of new features: > > - Settings > - FileSystems > - Metacello > - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) > - integration of Color and Files > - a lot of new useful blocks > - projects saved with Fuel > - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the > system > - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new > kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. > > Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: > â > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' > username: '' > password: ''; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. > (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: > #saveImageForEndUserSilently. > â > > I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. > You can follow Phratch here: > http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ > and here : > https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ > > Cheers, > Jannik > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug - SmallInteger new: aNumber crashes Pharo

by Nicolas Cellier

Yes, the VM should abort the primitive with a failure, it's a VM flaw and I posted to vm-dev already. 2013/12/17 Matias Garcia Isaia <mgarciaisaia(a)gmail.com> > As stated in > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20621119/how-to-print-an-integer-to-tran…, > SmallInteger inherits it's new: message from Behaviour, so if one expects > SmaillInteger new: 0 to give you a 0, it really crashes the VM while trying > to Inspect the result. > > Running it with an argument different than 0 (SmallInteger new: 10) raises > an error ("SmallInteger cannot have variable sized instances"). > > I think it would be really nice to have it just return the parameter, but > that's opinology - you decide how to solve it. The thing I think is not > subjective is that the VM crashes - that shouldn't happen. > > Tested in #30649 >

Dec. 16, 2013

Bug - SmallInteger new: aNumber crashes Pharo

by Matias Garcia Isaia

As stated in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20621119/how-to-print-an-integer-to-tran…, SmallInteger inherits it's new: message from Behaviour, so if one expects SmaillInteger new: 0 to give you a 0, it really crashes the VM while trying to Inspect the result. Running it with an argument different than 0 (SmallInteger new: 10) raises an error ("SmallInteger cannot have variable sized instances"). I think it would be really nice to have it just return the parameter, but that's opinology - you decide how to solve it. The thing I think is not subjective is that the VM crashes - that shouldn't happen. Tested in #30649

Dec. 16, 2013

can not update pharo

by Nicolai Hess

Can not update pharo (my current version is 30645) MCSmalltalkhubRepository(Object)>>error: Could not load ScriptLoader30-MarcusDenker.779.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 400 Bad Request

Dec. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by kilon alios

Thats great news and more the reason for me to try it. I am very intetested with your intergration of BYOB , filesystem and monticello. I love visual coding as much I love live coding. I see you even offer an android version. Well done ! Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 17 ÎÎµÎº 2013 12:13 Ï.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" < jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > Hehe, > > In fact, it works in Pharo3.0 :) > I have some tests that are yellow, I don't know why for now, and I am > waiting for a Pharo3.0 more stable to migrate. > > Jannik > > On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:10 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi and congrats for your project. How far are you from porting to Pharo 3 ? > Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 16 ÎÎµÎº 2013 11:46 Î¼.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" < > jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > >> Hi, >> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >> >> There are lots of new features: >> >> - Settings >> - FileSystems >> - Metacello >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >> - integration of Color and Files >> - a lot of new useful blocks >> - projects saved with Fuel >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the >> system >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new >> kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >> -- >> Gofer it >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >> username: '' >> password: ''; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >> load. >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >> -- >> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >> You can follow Phratch here: >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >> and here : >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> > >

Dec. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by jannik.laval

Hehe, In fact, it works in Pharo3.0 :) I have some tests that are yellow, I donât know why for now, and I am waiting for a Pharo3.0 more stable to migrate. Jannik On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:10 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi and congrats for your project. How far are you from porting to Pharo 3 ? > > Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 16 ÎÎµÎº 2013 11:46 Î¼.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > Hi, > > I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. > Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. > > There are lots of new features: > > - Settings > - FileSystems > - Metacello > - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) > - integration of Color and Files > - a lot of new useful blocks > - projects saved with Fuel > - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the system > - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. > > Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: > â > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' > username: '' > password: ''; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. > (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: #saveImageForEndUserSilently. > â > > I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. > You can follow Phratch here: > http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ > and here : > https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ > > Cheers, > Jannik

Dec. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by kilon alios

Hi and congrats for your project. How far are you from porting to Pharo 3 ? Î£ÏÎ¹Ï 16 ÎÎµÎº 2013 11:46 Î¼.Î¼., Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï "jannik.laval" < jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > Hi, > > I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. > Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. > > There are lots of new features: > > - Settings > - FileSystems > - Metacello > - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) > - integration of Color and Files > - a lot of new useful blocks > - projects saved with Fuel > - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the > system > - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new > kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. > > Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: > -- > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' > username: '' > password: ''; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. > (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: > #saveImageForEndUserSilently. > -- > > I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. > You can follow Phratch here: > http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ > and here : > https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ > > Cheers, > Jannik >

Dec. 16, 2013