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Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

On 12/17/2013 03:30 PM, Sergi Reyner wrote: > I came to the conclusion, some years ago, that I will continue to strive > to quote properly, and the rest of the world is free to do whatever they > want. And I am then free to just ignore messages or threads that are too > much trouble for me to follow. Amen to that. And I am an atheist even :) regards, GÃ¶ran PS. Mailinglists beats web forums every day of the week IMHO. I am following at least 12 different mailinglists and would go totally NUTS if I had to do that in various different web UIs that don't keep track of what I have read or not...

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

by Frank Shearar

On 17 December 2013 16:42, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you use Gmail, doing the right thing is now _hard_. (It's a >> click-the-ellipsis, then a find-the-place-to-edit, then hit return to > > > No need for the fine-motor click, just use right-arrow + Enter. How did you find that out? Good to know, but I've no idea how I might have stumbled upon that by accident. >> make a space for your words, then type, followed by scrolling back up >> to that place because Gmail then jumps the edit position to the bottom >> of the mail, followed by your actual reply.) This battle was lost a >> decade ago, I'm afraid. > > > That doesn't sound right. Don't you want to see what you're replying to? Yes, I do. What I'm saying is that gmail makes it hard to do exactly that, never mind let me write where I want to. frank

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

by Frank Shearar

On 17 December 2013 16:45, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ah. I hadn't thought that many devs actually use the web UI for gmail, but >> perhaps they are :) > > > But that would defeat one of the primary purpose of using web email which is > access from any machine. > > Besides that, Gmail has the best UI, bar none. The handling of > Conversations is what sets it apart. That's a horrible indictment of all webmail clients, because gmail's mail editor is utter rubbish. You can't paste anything even vaguely indented (like, oh I don't know, snippets of Smalltalk) without it "helpfully" unindenting everything, it strongly discourages correct use of email (i.e., not top-posting). Its new UI is a great leap backwards compared to its older UI. But, you know, it's free, it's available from every machine I care to use, and it has the best search facility of any mail client I've ever used. (Worst ever searching: Outlook.) frank

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by kilon alios

About the name, I was offering my personal opinion. In no way I am trying to persuade you to change the name. Unfortunately I am getting the exact same error in macos too, so this is not a windows only problem. By the way I am getting my latest pharo images via PharoLauncher, so I thought that was the reason for the error. So I downloaded from the pharo website pharo 3, again I see the same error. So to sum up because of the error I reported I cant use Phratch either on Windows or Macos with Pharo 3. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Oki :) > > [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] > > > 2013/12/17 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > > With some blocks... >> >> >> >> --- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 >> Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu >> Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback >> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium >> >> Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ >> Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - >> http://spamcast.libsyn.com >> Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value >> Added Reseller >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Like this one ? >>> >>> >>> [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] >>> >>> >>> 2013/12/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >>> >>>> Do you have a screenshot for an [ANN] on pharo.org? >>>> >>>> > >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >>>> >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >>>> >> >>>> >> There are lots of new features: >>>> >> >>>> >> - Settings >>>> >> - FileSystems >>>> >> - Metacello >>>> >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >>>> >> - integration of Color and Files >>>> >> - a lot of new useful blocks >>>> >> - projects saved with Fuel >>>> >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core >>>> of the system >>>> >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add >>>> new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >>>> >> >>>> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >>>> >> â >>>> >> Gofer it >>>> >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >>>> >> username: '' >>>> >> password: ''; >>>> >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >>>> >> load. >>>> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') >>>> load. >>>> >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >>>> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >>>> >> â >>>> >> >>>> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >>>> >> You can follow Phratch here: >>>> >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >>>> >> and here : >>>> >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> Jannik >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> Enseignant-chercheur >>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy issue to fix: 12063

by btc＠openinworld.com

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by S Krish

Really Cool.... all the power to see it work perfect with all bells n whistles.. http://learn.code.org has a cool run through in scratch on the browser.. One hour lesson for beginners and many already are on to it. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Oki :) > > [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] > > > 2013/12/17 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > > With some blocks... >> >> >> >> --- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 >> Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu >> Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback >> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium >> >> Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ >> Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - >> http://spamcast.libsyn.com >> Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value >> Added Reseller >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Like this one ? >>> >>> >>> [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] >>> >>> >>> 2013/12/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >>> >>>> Do you have a screenshot for an [ANN] on pharo.org? >>>> >>>> > >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >>>> >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >>>> >> >>>> >> There are lots of new features: >>>> >> >>>> >> - Settings >>>> >> - FileSystems >>>> >> - Metacello >>>> >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >>>> >> - integration of Color and Files >>>> >> - a lot of new useful blocks >>>> >> - projects saved with Fuel >>>> >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core >>>> of the system >>>> >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add >>>> new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >>>> >> >>>> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >>>> >> â >>>> >> Gofer it >>>> >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >>>> >> username: '' >>>> >> password: ''; >>>> >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >>>> >> load. >>>> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') >>>> load. >>>> >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >>>> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >>>> >> â >>>> >> >>>> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >>>> >> You can follow Phratch here: >>>> >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >>>> >> and here : >>>> >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> Jannik >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> Enseignant-chercheur >>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by jannik laval

Oki :) [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] 2013/12/17 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > With some blocks... > > > > --- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium > > Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ > Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - > http://spamcast.libsyn.com > Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value > Added Reseller > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Like this one ? >> >> >> [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] >> >> >> 2013/12/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >> >>> Do you have a screenshot for an [ANN] on pharo.org? >>> >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >>> >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >>> >> >>> >> There are lots of new features: >>> >> >>> >> - Settings >>> >> - FileSystems >>> >> - Metacello >>> >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >>> >> - integration of Color and Files >>> >> - a lot of new useful blocks >>> >> - projects saved with Fuel >>> >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of >>> the system >>> >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add >>> new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >>> >> >>> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >>> >> â >>> >> Gofer it >>> >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >>> >> username: '' >>> >> password: ''; >>> >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >>> >> load. >>> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. >>> >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >>> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >>> >> â >>> >> >>> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >>> >> You can follow Phratch here: >>> >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >>> >> and here : >>> >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> Jannik >>> > >>> > -- >>> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fwd: New pharo questions for Dec 17 - Stack Exchange

by MartinW

Marcus Denker-4 wrote > 3 questions in one dayâ¦ we are getting famous ;-) It is also encouraged to ask <http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/its-ok-to-ask-and-answer-your-own-que…> /and answer/ your own questions on Stackoverflow. I just documented how to add Nautilus menu context entries <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20640402/how-to-add-an-entry-to-context-…> this way (Thanks Benjamin for explaining it to me). -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Fwd-New-pharo-questions-for-Dec-17-Stack-Exchange-tp4… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow)

by Ron Teitelbaum

I never top quote J Ron From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Sergi Reyner Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:49 AM To: Pharo Development List Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please stop top posting... (was Re: Tell me about your workflow) 2013/12/17 Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> people took pride in having a very low content to quote ratio Of course, I actually meant quoted/original content there. Cheers, Sergi

Dec. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta

by phil＠highoctane.be

With some blocks... --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Like this one ? > > > [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] > > > 2013/12/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > >> Do you have a screenshot for an [ANN] on pharo.org? >> >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. >> >> Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. >> >> >> >> There are lots of new features: >> >> >> >> - Settings >> >> - FileSystems >> >> - Metacello >> >> - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) >> >> - integration of Color and Files >> >> - a lot of new useful blocks >> >> - projects saved with Fuel >> >> - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of >> the system >> >> - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add >> new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. >> >> >> >> Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: >> >> â >> >> Gofer it >> >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' >> >> username: '' >> >> password: ''; >> >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; >> >> load. >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: >> #saveImageForEndUserSilently. >> >> â >> >> >> >> I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. >> >> You can follow Phratch here: >> >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ >> >> and here : >> >> https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jannik >> > >> > -- >> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Dec. 17, 2013